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Microsoft FY2017 Q3 Earnings - Xbox Live MAU 52m (up 13%) Gaming revenue $1.928bn
- Thread starter hanspampel
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Scorpio astrological sign. Comes up on my phone. Lol
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Yeah, the most obvious thing is to compare the same quarters of the same year, but I guess it makes people happier to mix and match according to their needs.
slavesnyder
Member
They could only reach fake 4B with checkerboard revenuing.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
So you're answer is basically- not fair Sony had more stuff, got it.
Care to make this interesting?
Except for the part where gaming revenue for Ms doesn't come solely from Xbox One. It comes from PC and Minecraft as well. PlayStation is the biggest worldwide brand and it sales twice the number as Xbox does, but PS4 by itself is not twice the revenue earner compare to everything that Ms includes in their gaming division.
Never.
And Microsoft will never disclose the split.
But still never. We have a good enough idea of the PS4
S4Pro split hovering around 5~10:1. This is driven by the price difference, which in Scorpio's case, well ... good luck.
ethomaz
Banned
Like new products or games are not part of revenue lol companies indeed launch new machines and games to increase revenue.
Let'a start to remove Minicraft, PC, mobile from the revenue because it is not fair
Grumplestiltskin
Member
You're acting as though this reported revenue was XB1 only. It's not. Sony does not have software sales across a multitude of platforms (minecraft) or services to increase their revenue. They have Vue (a service that is only available in a few markets) that's about it. If MS gave us a breakdown of their gaminbrevenue from Xbox One and Xbox live we could compare those figures to Sony's but since they don't they aren't really comparable and claiming they are is either being incredibly ignorant or disingenuous. There are more to these figures than just the total revenue sum.
Hah! Clever. This thread needed some levity.
hanspampel
Banned
no it's not.
and thankfully we normally don't have these typ of poster here in earnings topics.
so i'm done talking to you. I would have no problem to educate you on various financial matters, but not with that console warrior attitude
Chobel
Member
Well that would be...something.
bryanee
Member
lol man, that is my favourite gif on the net.
Sure.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
What do you mean by 'everywhere' exactly?
Absolutely no Chance You'll probably be able to get X1 for $200 for the holidays.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Nice, I only presented the facts so grow up and stop with the insults. Take your warrior bullshit elsewhere.
Obliterator
Member
Yes. Xbox One hardware isn't that expensive to manufacture at this point and Xbox Live / software / Digital is all doing very well for them
Obliterator
Member
Why wouldn't it? It's their IP
Alright, let's keep it to NPD, because world wide it's not even going to be fair.
You said:
As in device that is currently known as Scorpio will be the sales leader by itself [in NPD]
So I propose an avatar bet. My bet is:
The device that is currently known as Scorpio, whose name may change before it's release, will sell less than base model PS4 or base model Xbone One during the Holiday months in US NPD chart combined. As in, we will add up the total numbers for all the Holiday months and these are the numbers that shall be used to determine the winner. Holiday months will be defined as month in which Scorpio first releases till December 2017. The losser of the bet has to wear avatar of opponent's choice for a month.
Obliterator
Member
This Holiday should look like this
PS4 base > Xbox One base > Scorpio > PS4 Pro
PS4 combined > Xbox One combined
PS4 base > Xbox One base > Scorpio > PS4 Pro
PS4 combined > Xbox One combined
Jaguar Victory
Member
NPD or Global?
Are fiscal reports threads NPD only related? because worldwide I don't see the last bit happening at all
Your post specifically said that Scorpio will be the sales leader. Getting cold feet are we?
Poor Switch, it keeps getting left out.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Not necessarily. Let me quote one of the best posts on this metric I've read in a while:
I said it will out sell the Xbox. I said nothing of the PS. But since you want to throw Sony in there. Why not? They both have two consoles out.
ethomaz
Banned
Obliterator
Member
I think there's a chance Scorpio outsells Pro this Holiday sure, even globally. It should do very well in NA and I'm not sure how much pull Pro is having really on a global level. Scorpio has the advantage of being a new hardware launch as well.
Then again Pro may get a price drop / strong bundles so we will see.
NA I for sure anticipate Scorpio over Pro
Main thing that makes this somewhat hard to discuss is we have no accurate data on Pro outside of what it's selling in Japan, where it's doing OK / not lighting the world on fire. I suspect adoption for Pro is much stronger in NA but not sure how much weight it's pulling in other markets.
Chobel
Member
I see you got it covered: if Scorpio doesn't outsell Xbox One it must be because of lack of stock.
I don't think they have talked about operating income for gaming in a long time, but it should still be good. Xbox live is still a huge earner.
Obliterator
Member
There isn't much reason to belive the Xbox division isn't profitable.
Cost of manufacturing the Xbox One at this point has to be low, and Xbox is doing very strongly with Live / Software / and Digital. Their 1st party output is also rather small at this point so they can't have a massive amount invested in development there.
I doubt it's a "hugely" profitable venture, but there's not much evidence to think it isn't in the black.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Honestly if they dont want to talk about that, then fine. But i really wish they'd give us hardware and software numbers.
gundamkyoukai
Member
PS4 Pro will out sell Scorpio thanks to a price drop IMO.
Still this all depends on price .
MS did okay going to be interesting to see how much growth they have this year .
I'm going to agree with you. I think MS has a much better marketing plan this time around.
But only if Scorpio is priced at $399.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah price drop / bundles could easily put the Pro ahead.
I'm just leaning Scorpio because I think it's going to perform proportionally better than Pro did compared to base PS4. Because it's a much larger upgrade compared to the original box.
Pro is a nice step up but if you already have a PS4 you aren't missing a ton passing on it. In comparison Scorpio is going to be a huge leap from the base One and I think that's going to be pretty enticing for Xbox gamers. I think you'll see a lot of people upgrading.
But yeah it's not something I'm dead set on or anything. Especially if Sony use some of their marketing partners like Destiny 2 to do Pro bundles and not just base model bundles
Chobel
Member
Scorpio will outsell PS4 Pro this holiday simply for the fact that Scorpio will be new product which just got released. After the holiday it could go either way, but the MS is handling marketing and the way Sony is
handling marketing, I think Scorpio will continue outselling PS4 pro.
not
They have the marketing and power advantage, and somewhat of a good luck charm if RDR2 releases that holiday. Definitive version of the biggest game of the year.
I was actually wondering if someone would make this dumb joke before me.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
2 billion is good. Them maus paying off.
Obliterator
Member
Eh not a whole lot else to talk about really here other than some debate about what the next year will look like.
We don't have Xbox One units, revenue is solid but nothing hugely interesting there, MAUs are down but that isn't surprising post Holidays.
I mean there isn't much else to talk about other than how Scorpio will impact their business.
Anyone want to talk about Office 365 or Azure?