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[YeulEmeralda]

Meh it takes 5 minutes to set up the shaders it's not a big deal for me.

 

[Wolzard]

Intel has started the race.

Intel Precompiled Shaders Accelerate Game Load Times By Up To 3x On Arc GPUs, Now Available & Supported In 13 Games

Intel Arc GPUs can finally enable Precompiled Shaders for faster loading times that are supported in 13 games at launch.

wccftech.com

 

[Katatonic]

p

 

[Trogdor1123]

Can someone explain to me why this happens on pc but not console? At least to my knowledge. I'm just unsure of what this actually does.

 

[StueyDuck]

Its about damn time that someone would deliver my shaders in an advanced fashion

 

[DeepEnigma]

All this happens already on Steam in the background if devs set it up correctly.

 

[March Climber]

The benefit of announcing and committing to the release of a new hybrid console:

Microsoft finally addresses things that they should have addressed ages ago.

 

[Wolzard]

Can someone explain to me why this happens on pc but not console? At least to my knowledge. I'm just unsure of what this actually does.

Consoles are a single platform, making it easy to compile shaders when you only have one target.
On PCs, however, there are thousands of possible hardware combinations, making the task much more difficult.

All this happens already on Steam in the background if devs set it up correctly.

Only with Vulkan and OpenGL.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Only with Vulkan and OpenGL.

Of course, I prefer Vulkan in a lot of games over DX12.

MS being MS.

 

[Three]

Can someone explain to me why this happens on pc but not console? At least to my knowledge. I'm just unsure of what this actually does.

On console you have it already compiled for that console by the devs. On PC you have to compile for your individual hardware yourself. I suspect the only reason MS are even pushing stuff like this only now is to reduce the pain for "xbox pc" when inevitably they will run into the same problem there.

 

[poppabk]

Can someone explain to me why this happens on pc but not console? At least to my knowledge. I'm just unsure of what this actually does.

On console you just download the precompiled shaders with the game. For PC you either compile the shaders at launch or on the fly when they occur. Pre-compiling shaders at launch has removed most of the issues - but it seems that some are still missed. Compiling them on the fly causes major hitching.
I don't understand how shaders actually work so I can't really give the technical reasons why all this exists.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

Did XSS closed the gap to PS5 now?

 

[Wolzard]

 

[DenchDeckard]

Fucking Finally!

 

[IbizaPocholo]

Advanced Shader Delivery expands Public Preview with AMD - DirectX Developer Blog

Advanced Shader Delivery expands to Windows 11 PCs with AMD GPUs, cutting Forza Horizon 6 load times by 95% and reducing shader stutter via Xbox Insider.

devblogs.microsoft.com

Last October, we released Advanced Shader Delivery (ASD) on the ROG Xbox Ally handhelds. Advanced Shader Delivery addresses one of the most frustrating challenges for PC players today – long load times and disruptive stuttering during a game's first launch. The feature works by delivering precompiled shaders to your game at download time, reducing load time by up to 90% and eliminating shader stutter.

Since the launch of the ROG Xbox Ally handhelds, we've partnered with AMD to invest in and improve the experience of players on PC. Today, Advanced Shader Delivery expands beyond ROG Xbox Ally handhelds to Windows 11 PCs with discrete GPUs and gaming laptop integrated GPUs from AMD. Players can take advantage of this preview by joining Xbox Insiders.

This expansion includes Forza Horizon 6, which showcases the advantage of ASD by dramatically improving loading times by 95%. We partnered closely with the team behind Forza Horizon 6 to give more players the advantage of ASD on day one.

Expanded experience:

With ASD, this loading screen finishes 95% faster on an AMD Radeon ™ RX 9060 GPU

Today marks the release of Forza Horizon 6. With advanced shader delivery, Forza Horizon 6 loads in 4 seconds, as compared to almost 1.5 minutes – that's an overall 95% time savings! This measurement was taken on an AMD Radeon RX 7600 GPU and an AMD Ryzen ™ 7 5800 8-Core processor CPU. ASD also reduces shader stutter when playing the title by circumventing just in time compilation of shaders during gameplay.

Forza Horizon 6 is a great title available in the Xbox PC app that showcases the benefits of ASD, loading instantly and with no shader stutter!

Check out our announcement from the ROG Xbox Ally and Ally X release that details other titles that support ASD and are available in the Xbox PC app.

Device Requirements:
To experience Advanced Shader Delivery at launch, you need the following minimum specs:

OS: Windows 11 24H2 or higher

Xbox Gaming Services: 37.113.11003.0 or higher (Microsoft Store > Library > Update Gaming Services)

Xbox Insider Hub: Open Xbox Insider Hub > Select Previews > PC Gaming Preview

GPU: AMD RDNA ™ 3, RDNA 3.5, RDNA 4 architectures

Driver: Adrenalin 26.5.2 or higher


'Precompiled shaders installed' will appear in the launch window when Advanced Shader Delivery is working

Call to Action: Bringing ASD to more titles
If you are a game developer interested in lighting up Advanced Shader Delivery for your own title, this blog post details how you can leverage the latest AgilitySDK to take advantage of the benefits of ASD. You can upload your title with a state object database (SODB) to the Xbox Partner Center to support pre-compilation for your title today.

What's coming next?
In the coming months, we will be enabling ASD on more Windows devices and other IHV hardware. Stay tuned for more information on our blog.

 

[Goalus]

Smart delivery
Advanced shader delivery

Microsoft sure knows how to deliver stuff, maybe they should branch out into the logistics sector.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

Yes, I decided that since devs know what hardware consoles have they can compile the shaders ahead of time and so this is unneeded. You're welcome

Pretty sure you're a moron on a forum. Not a MS engineer. You're not welcome.

 

[Topher]

Pretty sure you're a moron on a forum. Not a MS engineer. You're not welcome.

Damn son......you're triggered by a post from August of last year? That's a long time just to come back and make yourself look even more foolish.

Either way, others in the thread have made the same point I did. If you want to be that guy and call everyone a "moron" because you don't know any better then be that I guy I guess.

 

[OverHeat]

Pretty sure you're a moron on a forum. Not a MS engineer. You're not welcome.

Who the fuck are you?

 

[Rivdoric]

Who the fuck are you?

Cool down Overheat.

 

[Topher]

Cool down Overheat.

 

[Shogmaster]

DP

 

[Shogmaster]

So basically any native Helix developments gonna automatically generate these shader deliveries to RX 10070XT owners on the PC side?

 

[adamsapple]

 

[LordCBH]

I clicked into the preview that has that on their download insider app thing the other day. Haven't had pc time since then so I suppose I'll find out if I got it or not when I get home lol

 

[Kataploom]

So this applies to all games or do devs have to implement it manually to each game?

 

[winjer]

We tested Advanced Shader Delivery on the RX 9070 XT in six games — up to 95% improvement in load times and 33 percent faster 1% Low FPS

Today, we will take a look at Advanced Shader Delivery (ASD) – a new gaming feature aimed at improving the overall user experience by reducing load times dramatically and improving 1% low FPS. We tested six games, measuring up to a 95% improvement in game loading times and solid improvements in 1% Low FPS in some titles. We will explain the issues that it aims to fix, we will go into detail about its functionality, and then we will test it in several games with on vs off comparisons.

Shader compilation stutter has been the bane of every PC gamer's existence for a long time. Imagine finally sitting down after school or work to play a highly anticipated new release, only to spend several minutes waiting for shaders to precompile. Worse yet, even after that lengthy process, some shaders may still compile during gameplay, causing noticeable stuttering. First impressions matter, and technical issues like these can quickly sour the experience.

Pipeline State Objects (PSOs) define how input data is interpreted and rendered by the hardware when submitting work to the graphics card. PSO creation is also where shader compilation and related stalls happen. Modern games can contain such a massive number of PSOs that engines are unable to fully enumerate them ahead of time. Developers have introduced various mitigation techniques, but these are ultimately compromises that can still miss certain shaders during pre-compilation. In theory, allowing every player to locally precompile every possible shader permutation could eliminate these issues, but in large modern titles, that process could potentially take hours.

 

[zeomax]

This is only for AMD gpus or does this also works with Nvidia?

 

[dgrdsv]

This is only for AMD gpus or does this also works with Nvidia?

This is only for AMD for now since MS is making it specifically for their "Xbox" handhelds and the upcoming Helix, both of which use AMD h/w.
It should expand to other IHVs later though.
Also worth noting that it's Xbox App only so far as well.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

Damn son......you're triggered by a post from August of last year? That's a long time just to come back and make yourself look even more foolish.

Either way, others in the thread have made the same point I did. If you want to be that guy and call everyone a "moron" because you don't know any better then be that I guy I guess.

Be whatever fucking guy want to be. You are still a moron.

 

[JoeBlack2027]

This feud spans generations

 

[Soodanim]

Be whatever fucking guy want to be. You are still a moron.

You were wrong in August and you're wrong now. Consoles don't need faster ways to compile shaders because that's done in advance of the game shipping when there is no hardware variation to account for. Shaders on one PS5 work for every other PS5.

Continuing to insult people over this will only come back to bite you. If you want to have a discussion like a rational adult, make a case for why you're not wrong.

 

[pepeno]

>long load times and disruptive stuttering during a game's first launch.

literally like 10 minute wait i wouldn't call it important.

 

[Topher]

Be whatever fucking guy want to be. You are still a moron.

 

[winjer]