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Microsoft reaffirms Project Scorpio launch for Holiday 2017
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Outrun
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Yep, just like all PS4 games look identical to X1...
HeisenbergWW62
Banned
MS will get Assassin's Creed probably. And Cyberpunk 2077, but that won't help them this year
I'm not suggesting there will be parity necessarily. Just wondering if devs will feel compelled to put in extra effort for Scorpio
differences are minor for the most part
Outrun
Member
Well they built a console and the power overwhelmed their 1st parties..
If only MS had Naughty Dog and Guerilla...
/s
You mean other than res differences?
I doubt it, maybe just the ones going on W10 store aswell since they can use the PC assets + it's already a UWP on xbox so it should be easy to do. But I don't expect many W10 games. But I still think all MS first party games launching around Scorpio/onwards will come with a 1080p high PC graphics and a 4K Xbox One graphics mdoe.
Sony deals
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Yooo what?
You're telling me that after seeing what 343, The Coalition managed to do on a relatively wimpy console like XB1 that they won't be able to do wonders on Scorpio, if given a chance? This is not even to bring up 2nd party technical achievements like Forza Horizon 2 and 3 from Playground or Quantum Break from Remedy.
There are some insanely talented coders, artists, developers at these Microsoft studios, who, I'm guessing, are excited to realize their visions with more power on a stronger console.
Witcher 3 was with MS, no parity there
Aswell as some of the CoD's including 720v1080 for Ghosts
Plus whatever else there is, the only ones I can think of that's the same is Fallout 4, and FO4 is hardly a graphical looker so it being 1080p on both isn't exactly surprising. Edit: I forgot FO4 even got a Pro Patch, so not even that.
I doubt devs start holding back Scorpio resolution wise when they haven't done it all gen. Actual graphical improvements etc is another matter but I think that'd be more of a "we don't want to put in the extra work" rather than "parity with PS4" thing. But we should see better res across the board for Scorpio.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
That's my question as well. Will Microsoft personally pay them huge amounts to take advantage of the extra power, or will Sony's contracts prevent that?
Or will we simply get remastered first party content from Microsoft to take the extra power?
Lots of questions I'm looking forward to having answered.
TLZ
Banned
Because he/she is a child.
On another note, the Scorpio can be 4.3tf and Phil still call it the most powerful console ever made. It's all marketing and PR. This will happen every time we have a new console that's naturally better than it's predecessor. I hope it's more than 6tf personally.
Slangblade
Member
Don't want to bring up Sony, but they don't have first party developers like Naughty Dog, GG or Sony Santa Monica who are known for amazing visuals. Like I said there will be games that will look amazing like forza. I'm just not sure if we will get something that groundbreaking graphically. Gears look amazing I played on PC in 4K but to be honest it didn't blow me.
HeisenbergWW62
Banned
Quite a few third parties have added Pro support, don't see why that wouldn't be the case with Scorpio
This should be a no brainer.
A Sony marketing deal doesn't mean they are going to Gimp a Scorpio version. You just won't have people shouting from the rooftop any massive differences. But they'll be there. Just like Microsoft deals haven't stopped EA or Bethesda from doing Pro stuff. Battlefront would have different Scorpio modes but MS just wouldn't be able to say it's the "best" versio specifically. Theycould probably market the Scorpio as the best place to play the best looking games this year.
That's all that needs to be said from a marketing stand point. Strongest console ever with the best looking games etc
Yeah but Crytek is all over the place right now.
Oh I know it ain't happening, just that it would have made a good candidate for a launch title, but yeah
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Quantum Break to this day is easily one of the most visually stunning games I've ever seen.
They don't?
How do pc versions now turn out? They already have multiple targets higher than ps4 and pro so they would actively gimp the Scorpio version which would put a bad light on the dev and publisher.
Crayon
Member
They argued with people who didn't think it was much of a difference. That is the nature of the difference. Significant to some, nearly imperceptible to others.
Of course! This time, we will see the same people with swapped roles.
It's eagle eyes against can't notice a difference on my tv again.
That's very debatable.
There are plenty of games on XBO like Quantum Break, Horizon 3, Gears 4, & even Halo 5 that rise above the hardware limitations and provide amazing visuals. With the Scorpio there should be less graphical compromises to hold back the artistry.
Yep on both sides you still see people play down the differences they will be the first to scream on the roof tops differences in thier favour this time round.
And the other way round, as you probably know.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
There are very few games that show dramatic differences between PS4 and Xbox One and if there are, most of them were released near the beginning of the current cycle.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I'd argue that it requires greater effort to cater for the lesser powered system.
MilkyJoe
Member
Man, I'm clicking back to see where the conversation went and you deleted it. Bad form.
Some weird posts since I last looked. First parties don't have any teams that know how to use powerful hardware, was a good one.
Well, just quote the text again, he is cited often enough to get the original text. And thus will be preserved for this page.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
What am I reading in here?
Sony's marketing deals will lead to developers not bothering to put effort into utilising the extra horsepower in Scorpio?
Riiiiiiiiight. That must explain all those multiplats from the start of this gen that had MS marketing deals and looked better on Xbo- oh wait.
Except when it's not?
Sony's marketing deals will lead to developers not bothering to put effort into utilising the extra horsepower in Scorpio?
Riiiiiiiiight. That must explain all those multiplats from the start of this gen that had MS marketing deals and looked better on Xbo- oh wait.
Except when it's not?
Bits N Pieces
Member
Forgetting the CPU, the price or what it will be called I think the one thing that we do know about the Scorpio is that it's going to be the best place to play third party games this year and for the next few years.
There is no getting away from that, however people try to spin it.
There is no getting away from that, however people try to spin it.
no point in even arguing that. there are devs that have done amazing things with the xbox one's hardware. ryse is still a technical masterpiece.
but some people here also praise uc4's attention to detail because conversations resume when you enter vehicles because GTA has never ever done that.
I can't believe I left out Ryse, crazy good looking game.
sure, but the pro is right now and it isn't blowing anyone away in sales either.
Backfoggen
Banned
If it means more room for better and quieter cooling then I'd rather have a brick. Unless the brick is louder than the system which was the case with my launch Xbox One PSU lol.
Bits N Pieces
Member
I didn't mention sales?
Delay it to launch with Halo 6.
Then ensure Ryzen CPU.
If they've learned anything from the PS4 Pro launch you need to have SOMETHING to launch with it to ensure decent pickup rates.
Or some other big game to launch with it. Bundle it - they'll move extra units. They could ideally have it all set for Christmas 2017.
People will complain but better a late launch then a poor launch.
Then ensure Ryzen CPU.
If they've learned anything from the PS4 Pro launch you need to have SOMETHING to launch with it to ensure decent pickup rates.
Or some other big game to launch with it. Bundle it - they'll move extra units. They could ideally have it all set for Christmas 2017.
People will complain but better a late launch then a poor launch.
at least regarding my comments, I wasn't trying to suggest devs would "gimp" Scorpio versions. Folks are taking my comments to an extreme. Some people are alluding to night and day difference in games like RDR2. All I'm saying is I don't expect all devs to necessarily go the extra mile to make certain versions extra special or live up to their full potential or whatever. Which is fine in my opinion, not saying those versions would be bad.
There we're plenty of games this gen that appeared to have parity and there was quite a vocal minority of people that were mad that the PS4 wasn't reaching its full potential
Proelite
Member
Not happening. Wish I could say differently.
Here's a shocker. There will be flip flopping console war types, AND the differences won't be that big of a deal. Just like the differences aren't a big deal now
That extra meta layer of "oh of course "you" would think that" will make DF threads even more insufferable though
Cause there's no chance that a CPU which is being publicly released in March can surely be in a console in November.
/s
Prototype Viktor
Member
Plot twist,it will be triangle shaped
Well, first of all, we all know about the first paragraph and for the second, everyone is free to stay out of these threads. Shocking to some, I know.
He was saying 2 million at a $499 price point, not $399.
It won't do 2M regardless but just to keep the record straight
Halo Gears, Gears Halo...rinse and repeat
AusRoachman
Member
I am struggling to see what games will be the killer launch titles . We have just got another halo , so that rules out another one this year probably .
No doubt forza Motorsport will be a launch game but not sure if that has enough pull to get people to switch . Gears 4 only just came out , and the rest of there first party games bombed (sunset , quantum , recore) and probably won't get greenlit.
Unless they have a ton of secret first party devs working secretly on unannounced projects for this launch I don't see anything that would convince me to upgrade .
I am struggling to find reasons to play the Xbox one when most 3rd parties run better on PS4 anyway.
Such a shame as I loved my Xbox 360 , and it's sad that they have reverted to being a gears / forza / halo machine (though you could kind of see it towards the ends of 360s lifecycle .
I hope I am wrong and ms gets a ton of cool looking exclusive titles but not sure where they are coming from this year .
No doubt forza Motorsport will be a launch game but not sure if that has enough pull to get people to switch . Gears 4 only just came out , and the rest of there first party games bombed (sunset , quantum , recore) and probably won't get greenlit.
Unless they have a ton of secret first party devs working secretly on unannounced projects for this launch I don't see anything that would convince me to upgrade .
I am struggling to find reasons to play the Xbox one when most 3rd parties run better on PS4 anyway.
Such a shame as I loved my Xbox 360 , and it's sad that they have reverted to being a gears / forza / halo machine (though you could kind of see it towards the ends of 360s lifecycle .
I hope I am wrong and ms gets a ton of cool looking exclusive titles but not sure where they are coming from this year .
MeisterLeder
Banned
Gears 4 sure had some impressive looking stuff, Halo 5? nah. That game looked very outdated.
RDR2, Battlefront 2 and more. Basicly the entire list of Fall 2017 games. Starting with the Release of Scorpio this fall, the best console version to play of a game will be on Scorpio.