anothertech
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Why ditch the Xbox name tho.
That's wierd.
That's wierd.
It seem Xbox Brand is making all the moves lately wile Sony will likely follow along again like they did Paid Online why is the gaming brand that is in 3rd place leading the innovating charge wile the 1st place brand follow suit it weird really should be the other way around.
I still don't see them dropping Gold, because I suspect Gold is making more actual profit than Gamepass. I will believe it when I see it.If they really drop Gold. They have to be downplaying how much GP makes them. Either that or subscriber numbers are skyrocketing. Covid is good for Game Pass it would seem.
They have 30 million Gold subscribers at best. The amount of Gold subscribers will always be limited by the amount of Xbox consoles sold while the amount of Game Pass subscribers is not.I still don't see them dropping Gold, because I suspect Gold is making more actual profit than Gamepass. I will believe it when I see it.
They have 30 million Gold subscribers at best. The amount of Gold subscribers will always be limited by the amount of Xbox consoles sold while the amount of Game Pass subscribers is not.
They are aiming for 200+ million subscribers with Game Pass. Gold will hardly matter in that scenario.
At the same time they are rewarding their most loyal fans (buyers of Xbox consoles) by not requiring them to pay for online MP any longer.
It's a win-win situation.
The only losers here are Sony and their fans.
No, I am not.There is very little marginal cost in Gold as a service, that $1 billion plus in revenue doesn’t cost them much at all. Gamepass costs a lot more to provide as a service There’s the cost of providing the content, the opportunity cost of foregone game sales and now, potentially, the billion dollars of lost gold revenue.
And you’re fucking deluded if you think they’re getting anywhere near 200 million Gamepass subs.
Yeah right, a company such as Microsoft probably can't handle doing more than one thing at once.Microsoft game publisher only future?
I have been told by people here that my PCs are now Xboxes... I assume that this clarification is for them.Xbox Game Pass for PC sounds so stupid when the PC is not an Xbox, lol.
Well if it's free then they would pay nothing correct.My casual buddies are never going to pay $14 a month when all they want to do is play COD.
Online MP will be completely free.
Why are you hoping that the obvious option (free online MP) will not become reality? (I know why.)
Like Activision had zero confidence in CoD Warzone, suuuuure.
I still don't see them dropping Gold, because I suspect Gold is making more actual profit than Gamepass. I will believe it when I see it.
It’s possible that the Sony/Microsoft Azure deal made it possible for them to supplant (partially or mostly) whatever money they were receiving from Gold to make other moves with their online service.
Gold going free is a great gesture, though i question anyone who has an xbox and not gamepass. Like, what are you doing?
No, I am not.
But I realize that it would probably make sense to wait at least for an official statement regarding the Gold subscription before getting into an argument. I'll do exactly that and wait for 10 days before commenting any further.
Gold going free is a great gesture, though i question anyone who has an xbox and not gamepass. Like, what are you doing?
Lol, ok.
And in 10 days 200 million is still not even the number in Phil Spencer's wet dreams.
Unless all of a sudden you can buy Xbox stock, it all falls under the Microsoft umbrella. Resources can be diverted.That deal is nothing to do with Xbox division. That’s a straight hosting deal with Azure.
Unless all of a sudden you can buy Xbox stock, it all falls under the Microsoft umbrella. Resources can be diverted.
And you do?You really don’t understand how Microsoft works do you?
I understand how it works.You really don’t understand how Microsoft works do you?
50-75 million is certainly realistic and I'd imagine the net profit from that is higher than 30 million XBL Gold subs. But only time will tell.
On a more micro level, I am wondering like many others what happens to existing XBL subscribers who haven't converted to Gamepass yet. Or, more specifically, what happens to those of us who purchased and rat holed (haven't redeemed yet) XBL Gold 12 month codes? I'd imagine there's even a lot of people who converted to Game Pass but have a XBL Gold code or three lying around and may want to redeem those but will be disappointed to find out the service has been discontinued after paying $30-40/year...
And you do?
Noted. Sounds legit.Yes. They are one of many multinational companies I’ve had as a client in my professional life.
Bottom line, and we’ve done this many times before, is that Microsoft Corp war chest is not all available to Xbox. Profits of Azure are not available to Xbox regardless of who the client is - and Cloud hosting provided to Sony will have to be competitive or they’d just switch to AWS or GCP.
Xbox needs to be self sufficient and not subsidised by other parts of the corporation. Xbox investments need to meet internal hurdles for return on investment. Gamepass needs to be profitable, if they give up $1 billion plus of Gold subs then that needs to come from somewhere else.
They are downplaying GP numbers by a pretty substantial margin. Just like they downplay the games number in GP. They advertise over 100 when its actually closer to 250. GP is more than 10 million.If they really drop Gold. They have to be downplaying how much GP makes them. Either that or subscriber numbers are skyrocketing. Covid is good for Game Pass it would seem.
Noted. Sounds legit.
If you don’t mind me asking, what business field are/were you involved in?
Warriors
Because large corporations do not give up a billion dollars of revenue out of altruism. If it happens it’s not a gesture, it’s part of a strategy to increase revenue.
Don’t be naive, it’s good to be sceptical of the motivations of corporations that need to create value for shareholders.
I think they’ll do well to get to 30-40 million, which is the ballpark of the Gold paid subs at the moment.
$15/month versus up to $60/year is very different proposition, especially if those who only play COD and FIFA no longer need a paid sub.
I think you’ll also see subbing for a month or 3 months being more common than a continuous sub.
Why ditch the Xbox name tho.
That's wierd.
I have been told by people here that my PCs are now Xboxes... I assume that this clarification is for them.Xbox Game Pass for PC sounds so stupid when the PC is not an Xbox, lol.
Xbox icon and everything is still the same on the logo. This makes so much sense. Xbox Game Pass for PC sounds so stupid when the PC is not an Xbox, lol.
Microsoft can wipe its ass and find a billion dollars, even though that estimate isn’t correct.There’s no way Microsoft are “phasing out” over a billion dollars of easy revenue.
More likely that they combine Gold and Gamepass in some way. And in all likelihood a way that is a bit more expensive ...... but, of course, providing so much more “value”.
Microsoft can wipe its ass and find a billion dollars, even though that estimate isn’t correct.
Also, there’s obviously plans to recover that revenue in other areas — services, microtransactions, whatever. It’s a powerful move to expand their playerbase and mindshare, it could pay off.
JinCA?Yeah, if it weren't for gold MS probably wouldn't even be in the console business anymore.
Same reason Sony did it.Why ditch the Xbox name tho.
That's wierd.
"free" by making u pay for the $50 per month tier
It's probably just getting repackaged, not becoming free.
JinCA?
Why ditch the Xbox name tho.
That's wierd.
Same reason Sony did it.
Its weird dudeThey didn't, the logo still comes before the words "game pass" and the logo is the xbox logo, people are reading too much into small things.