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Microsoft: Square Wanted FFXIII on 360
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Jazzy Network
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I love that post. I hope he's not banned 
jett said:
Seems like Sony would rather feed it's WWS devs money for exclusive IPs that it has full control of rather than feed 3rd parties the same amount for far less.
Saying that, FFXIII will be a big deal in terms of hype and sales so I think they should've moneyhatted that one atleast.
Gee, I thought it had more to do with exclusive RPG's on either system not doing particularly well, and the potential for FFXIII to even put up FFXII numbers was small on just one platform.
If FFXIII were orginally 360 exclusive, it would have been announced for PS3. I just don't think it has a chance at large scale success on just one console, given current trends with very few RPG's doing amazingly well this generation. Especially JRPG's.
If FFXIII were orginally 360 exclusive, it would have been announced for PS3. I just don't think it has a chance at large scale success on just one console, given current trends with very few RPG's doing amazingly well this generation. Especially JRPG's.
Jazzy Network
Member
Paco said:
Or that fact that it will probably only sell 3 copies in Japan?
Hero of Legend
Member
If it was the install base, wouldn't SE have put it on the Wii instead of 360 at least?
I guess the hardware differences prevented that, at least it would've been more trouble than it was worth.
Still, didn't stop Capcom from actually canceling MH3 for the PS3 and moved it to the Wii.
Depends if the Wii version was built 100% from scratch and the canned PS3 version's engine or whatever is left of it will be made for a future PS3 MH game.
And wouldn't Sony owning 51& of SE make them SE's parent company? Yeah, they obviously own far less.
I guess the hardware differences prevented that, at least it would've been more trouble than it was worth.
Still, didn't stop Capcom from actually canceling MH3 for the PS3 and moved it to the Wii.
Depends if the Wii version was built 100% from scratch and the canned PS3 version's engine or whatever is left of it will be made for a future PS3 MH game.
And wouldn't Sony owning 51& of SE make them SE's parent company? Yeah, they obviously own far less.
:lolOpus Angelorum said:
oh god...Stumpokapow said:
I'm suddenly reminded of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYUbUvzlvFw
I cringe, even though I know its supposed to be funny
Replicant said:
You can't be serious. You can't make next-gen HD games on the Wii. It is like you don't really think before you post. Only Gaf and Sony boards are actually distraught that a game is coming out for the PS3. Games go from Xbox/PC exclusives to the PS3 all the time, and xbox owners never complain, but whenever an exclusive from the PS3 comes on the Xbox, you all get mad.
The truth is: no one will ever know. Sony claims that Microsoft spent boatloads of money to block the PS3 from garnering any more penetration. Microsoft claims that Square wanted Final Fantasy XIII on the 360 all along. Both companies are playing damage control, and it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that both companies are issuing statements to save face.
Paco said:
I think believing that MS gave them no money to make it go multi plat is a bit unlikely. Sony paid money for it to remain exclusive. MS paid more to make it multi plat. Either way, it's win win for SE.
Those are all exclusives. If it were a multi plat RPG, the sales could be different.
Jazzy Network said:
I think it would be obvious that if SE had it come out on the 360 in Japan, there would be loads of people buying a 360 just to play it.
It makes sense to have it on the PS3 in Japan since the install base is much larger, but would it make sense to miss out on the chance to grow the 360 install base even further in Japan? It would make sense for some many other developer who then have an even larger market to play with. If any game would push 360 units in Japan, it would be FFXIII.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Teetris said:Why you hating on Europa?
Sony stopped the moneyhatting, or so they say. Having said that, I wonder how the situation with Rockstar will turn out, I wouldn't be surprised if that so called project will never get off the ground.
isnt this very thread a good indication that they actually did do that?
Jazzy Network said:
Once again, this is a retarded freaking argument. FFXIII released day one with the PS3 version on the 360 in Japan, would still probably outsell every other 360 game released in Japan up to this point, which would mean your argument would make ANY 360 game in Japan not worth releasing. And here we are talking about some packaging costs, because everything else is already done.
You don't have to look much further than the PS3/FFXII bundle, to see what's going on here.
I swear some people just don't want to accept the reality that things are on the other foot now, and it's Sony that's on the ropes having to cut deals for shit like this with developers.
Paco said:
The question is, if those games didn't even break a quarter of a million, will SE benefit from porting a Japanese version of FFXIII for 360 (as in make their money back and them some) or is it better for them to just port the localized versions for NA and EU territories.
I think the answer is pretty clear.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Wow, my job considers ytmnd as criminal activity. BAIL!grandjedi6 said:
WickedLaharl
Member
FabCam said:
that's your reasoning? :lol
and sony shares amount to, what, like less then 9 % of s-e?
FabCam said:
it's not likely at all.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
cjelly said:
:lol :lol :lol
who's voice is that??
FabCam said:
How is that unlikely when Square and Microsoft have both stated the reasons its coming to the 360, and money-hatting had nothing to do with it. The fact of the matter is that there is a much larger audience on the 360 & PS3, and don't forget that Square's president said they wanted to be a multi-platform company. The 360's strong performance in NA and Europe finally warrant consideration.
cartoon_soldier
Member
SE has stated previously that they want to increase their market presence in NA, and so them wanting FFXIII on 360 sounds right.
But, it is also clear they had expected the PS3 to have a larger install base by now, and when they didn't see that they looked at 360's install base and more importantly the software sales for 360 games.
But, it is also clear they had expected the PS3 to have a larger install base by now, and when they didn't see that they looked at 360's install base and more importantly the software sales for 360 games.
Raide said:
Exactly. And would Square mind if their game helped increase the 360 user base, which in turn would help their sales of all the other 360 games they are publishing in Japan? Uhm. No. Would Microsoft? Deffinitely not.
Who would? I wonder......
Keep in mind, as bad as the 360 is doing in Japan, the difference in user base between the PS3 and 360 in Japan is about 1.5 mil. That's not really that big in the grand scheme of things.
cartoon_soldier said:
I really don't think the install base or sales were as much of a contributing factor as the under performing sales of JRPG's in general.
With a multiplatform release, SE can ensure that FFXIII will at least sell as well as FFXII. But at this point, both PS3 and 360 owners have shown they don't have a particularly large interest in purchasing JRPG's, as the sales numbers certainly don't reflect that.
Metalmurphy
Member
Oh how naive you are sir.WickedLaharl said:
Anyway didn't Sony pretty much confirm it was a money hat after saying they couldn't keep on matching MS ever extending offer? Or something along those lines.
KHarvey16 said:
Well if you believe in the general Japanese Sales-Age stand that a lot of Japanese gamers tend to buy a console around a big game release, then immediately turn around and sell it.....being able to play the game while saving yourself a couple of hundred bucks, is a pretty good reason why.
KHarvey16 said:
Well, its cheaper for a starter? So if SE can say it looks identical on PS3 and 360, it would make sense to buy it on the cheaper of the two right? I am sure FF fans have already had their PS3's since launch, so for them it does not matter, but for those that may be holding off, a cheaper console to play their games on would make sense.
I am not saying this is going to happen but gaming is still an expensive hobby for many.
WickedLaharl
Member
Nif said:
is that why kagari got banned?
either way that is some hilarious self ownage. :lol
°°ToMmY°° said:
Your number predictions are seriously screwed up. I can't think of any major multiplatform game that had an 12:1 ratio PS3:360 in Japan.
FFXIII on the 360 on day 1 in Japan, would outsell any other 360 game up to that point, BD included. Multiplatform or not.
By your logic why the heck would be the point of releasing The Last Remnant on the 360, and first, to be exact?