jayfrontz08
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Since before the nsa leak fiasco the kinect always on is the biggesr reason i dont want a xbox one if the nsa or goverment dont get in dont mean some punk hacker wont get in and microsof isnt know for the best security out thier
You'd have to go back to the launch of the PS3. Sony made claims that CG videos were gameplay. The original PS3 design was going to have dual display support and 2 additional USB slots, which they took away before the PS3 released. It was going to have multiple ethernet ports and could serve as an ethernet hub, that went bye bye before release. When the price of the PS3 was made known (approx. $600-700 adjusted for inflation depending on model), Ken Kuturagi said that it is probably too cheap and you should just work more hours to buy one. They promised backwards compatibility and the ability to install Linux onto the PS3 -- both of which they took away from people after the console released. Sony had a fake viral marketing website where they pretended to be two young PSP fans trying to get people to buy the PSP until Sony was exposed. Then there are arrogant Sony quotes like..
"Consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. Then you look at the UK - a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium, and the cost of people is a lot more."
"The first five million are going to buy it [the PS3], whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games."
"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it."
Then there were other little broken promises along the way. Oh, and I forgot to mention how they thought that it wasn't important to keep the security for their customer's data up-to-date.
Since before the nsa leak fiasco the kinect always on is the biggesr reason i dont want a xbox one if the nsa or goverment dont get in dont mean some punk hacker wont get in and microsof isnt know for the best security out thier
/close threadMS finally admitted that they and the U.S. government CAN USE KINECT to spy on you in your home.
Really, what else is there to talk about? MS can FUCK OFF.
I'm little confused - help me understand. Why are we hating on MS when this is a problem with the US government?
Well, that's how I found this thread, so yeah.
lol ok you guys win. I have to go to bed.
Holy shit is this for real? Are you seriously comparing actively spying on your customers to Sony removing ethernet ports and support for backwards compatibility
I'm little confused - help me understand. Why are we hating on MS when this is a problem with the US government?
Who said that was nonsense? The nonsense is individuals complaining about possibly being spied on by Kinect when considering all the parties involved in this whole debacle there is basically no piece of tech safe from potential spying. It's rather selective really. Be it an MS, Android or Apple device or whatever carrier you happen to be on, they're all at it.What was nonsense about Microsoft assisting and providing the NSA with access to Skype, Outlook / Email and Skydrive?
I'm little confused - help me understand. Why are we hating on MS when this is a problem with the US government?
Who said that was nonsense? The nonsense is individuals complaining about possibly being spied on by Kinect when considering all the parties involved in this whole debacle there is basically no piece of tech safe from potential spying. It's rather selective really. Be it an MS, Android or Apple device or whatever carrier you happen to be on, they're all at it.
These threads gain the traction they do simply because it's MS.
If people can live with a mobile phone, web cams and all the rest if it then there's really no need to get upset over Kinect.
The issue is bigger than can Kinect spy on you. And even if it can, so can everything else. So complaining about this one thing is redundant.
Holy shit is this for real? Are you seriously comparing actively spying on your customers to Sony removing ethernet ports and support for backwards compatibility
I'm little confused - help me understand. Why are we hating on MS when this is a problem with the US government?
Talk about a woe is me persecution complex. ROFL.
This should be in the GAF Microsoft Defense-Force hall of fame.
He was saying that he wouldn't buy a luxury product from a company that showed contempt for it's non-MSA customers. I was merely showing that Sony has shown plenty of contempt themselves. People here are under the misguided illusion that Sony is some great consumer company when the opposite is true. If the NSA had went to Sony, Sony would have complied like all of the other companies involved in this PRISM mess.
No, honestly I have never seen so much hate for a company that has turned their position around.
Its the popular thing to hate on Microsoft right now.
Is there a US law that mandates Kinect must be plugged in for the Xbox One to boot?
Is there a US law that mandates Kinect must be plugged in for the Xbox One to boot?
This thread is a giant, beautiful, horrible train wreck in motion. Theres no sane place to even jump in lol.
We are talking about Microsoft not Sony. Sony gets hacked and leaves us rootkits. MS hands stuff over to government. These are two different things.
Haha, busted!How many personalities do you have?
Or accounts?
How many personalities do you have?
Or accounts?
So...a majority of GAF are blind fanboys to everything positive about Sony. Aight.
I understand its a long thread and you cant be expected to read the whole thing. Microsoft actively assists the US government in the collection and delivery of this private data. They re-engineered products and services in order to facilitate the ability to spy on citizens around the globe. Hope that clears it up
What makes you think sony , aplke , google and all other compabys wouldnt also give information and access to the goverment when court ordered ?
These threads gain the traction they do simply because it's MS.
If people can live with a mobile phone, web cams and all the rest if it then there's really no need to get upset over Kinect.
The issue is bigger than can Kinect spy on you. And even if it can, so can everything else. So complaining about this one thing is redundant.
You'd have to go back to the launch of the PS3. Sony made claims that CG videos were gameplay. The original PS3 design was going to have dual display support and 2 additional USB slots, which they took away before the PS3 released. It was going to have multiple ethernet ports and could serve as an ethernet hub, that went bye bye before release. When the price of the PS3 was made known (approx. $600-700 adjusted for inflation depending on model), Ken Kuturagi said that it is probably too cheap and you should just work more hours to buy one. They promised backwards compatibility and the ability to install Linux onto the PS3 -- both of which they took away from people after the console released. Sony had a fake viral marketing website where they pretended to be two young PSP fans trying to get people to buy the PSP until Sony was exposed. Then there are arrogant Sony quotes like..
"Consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. Then you look at the UK - a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium, and the cost of people is a lot more."
"The first five million are going to buy it [the PS3], whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games."
"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it."
Then there were other little broken promises along the way. Oh, and I forgot to mention how they thought that it wasn't important to keep the security for their customer's data up-to-date.
Probably better not to.
Who said that was nonsense? The nonsense is individuals complaining about possibly being spied on by Kinect when considering all the parties involved in this whole debacle there is basically no piece of tech safe from potential spying. It's rather selective really. Be it an MS, Android or Apple device or whatever carrier you happen to be on, they're all at it.
These threads gain the traction they do simply because it's MS.
If people can live with a mobile phone, web cams and all the rest if it then there's really no need to get upset over Kinect.
The issue is bigger than can Kinect spy on you. And even if it can, so can everything else. So complaining about this one thing is redundant.
Hey do you have a laptop?
how about you look right above the screen.
Certainly. It just deserves its own commentary almost, is what I meant. Bravo. Encore!
I wanted to apologize to all the Nintendo fanboys over the years.
You guys are in no way the worst. I obviously did not have the proper context before to realize who was the worst. We have a new crowned group and you Nintendo fans are going to have to do some stunning corporate cock sucking to beat them.
Playstatjon fanboys will say xbox is the worst xbox fanboys will say playstation is the worst and pure nintendo fanboys will sit back and just watch as the others bicker at eachother
If anything, a majority of GAF are blind fanboys to everything positive about Microsoft. The Sony Defense Force runs heavy in GAF.
jayfrontz08 said:Playstatjon fanboys will say xbox is the worst xbox fanboys will say playstation is the worst and pure nintendo fanboys will sit back and just watch as the others bicker at eachother
What makes you think sony , aplke , google and all other compabys wouldnt also give information and access to the goverment when court ordered ?
NSA:" We want to use Kinect for enhanced observation."
Microsoft:"For the record, we don't want you to do that. Now go, here is all you need."
PlayStation fanboys and Nintendo fanboys can label whoever they want as the worst fanboys, but there will never be a worse fanboy than the fanboy who is going to defense mode a company admitting a product can spy on you, then having a recorded history of allowing the government to spy on you, and then trying to play it off like it's no big.
Been to any WiiU threads lately?
You will understand the context of my post if you backtrack some in this thread.
If anything, a majority of GAF are blind fanboys to everything positive about Microsoft. The Sony Defense Force runs heavy in GAF.
Amazing gif.
PlayStation fanboys and Nintendo fanboys can label whoever they want as the worst fanboys, but there will never be a worse fanboy than the fanboy who is going to defense mode a company admitting a product can spy on you, then having a recorded history of allowing the government to spy on you, and then trying to play it off like it's no big.
And mandatory Kinect that must be plugged in for the system to work is the fucking dead giveaway.
As for others saying that other devices are spying on them. Bullshit. Most of that stuff can be turned off or bypassed one way or the other.
MS and the U.S. government have been exposed as partners in spying on citizens. Why anyone would support MS at this point is beyond me.
Don't come at me with "I've got nothing to hide so it won't bother me!" argument. Be afraid of what they're NOT TELLING YOU they do behind the scenes. That shouldn't bother you either then, right?