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[BlockheadBrown]

PS has Ryse and Forza???

Both are nice but overrated.

 

[Elginer]

Of course they'd say that.

My words exactly.

 

[N.Domixis]

"The purists are gonna argue the toss, but I think it comes down to the games."

Only thing that matters at the end of the day.

History has shown PlayStation is the place to go if you want a variety of high quality exclusives every year.

 

[Cragvis]

""The purists are gonna argue the toss, but I think it comes down to the games. "

Correct! Which is why ps+ is the way to go. I am loving dont starve!

 

[Gaz_RB]

Microsoft you were doing so well for awhile at keeping your mouth shut about this

 

[R3TRO]

History has shown PlayStation is the place to go if you want a variety of high quality exclusives every year.

Eh, not everyone likes PS exclusives.

 

[88random]

But.. Power of the cloud???

 

[SwiftDeath]

fixed

that's funny how some games are actually the same but a slight few are different, you would think it was the developer's decision or something...hmmm

Pong can run in 1080p 60 fps on my toaster thus the fact BF4 doesn't was simply a design decision and not in any way a limitation of the hardware

 

[Cimeas]

Is anyone else just a little tired of this debate? Like I have a feeling that this thread might hit 20 pages, the next 19, the next 17 and so on until eventually a game comes out and it's 900p on XBO and 1080p on PS4 and no-one cares any more since we all expect it.

What do you expect them to say? "Yes our console is clearly consistently weaker than the competition and will remain that way for the rest of the generation". Great thing for a marketing guy to say there.

 

[ghst]

Playstation 4
Battlefield 4 = 1600x900 (60fps)
The Order: 1886 = 1920x800 (to be confirmed)
KillZone: Shadow Fall = 1920x1080 (MP=60fps, SP=30fps)
Dying Light = 1920x1080
Infamous: Second Son = 1920x1080
DriveClub = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Resogun = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Knack = 1920x1080 (Variable - 30-60fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1920x1080 (with AA) (30fps)
Thief = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Blacklight: Retribution = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Warframe = 1920x1080
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Trine 2: Complete Story = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Flower = 1920x1080 (60fps)
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
DC: Universe Online = 1920x1080 (60fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps)

Xbox One
Killer Instinct = 1280x720 (60fps)
Battlefield 4 = 1280x720 (60fps)
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1280x720 (60fps)
Ryse: Son of Rome = 1600x900 (30fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1600x900 (30fps)
Titanfall = 1280x720 (to be confirmed)
Forza 5 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Kinect Sports Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Thief = ????x??? (30fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Dead Rising 3 = 1280x720 (30fps)


yep. fairly marginal.

on the one hand, the differences are pretty pronounced, on the other hand it's more than a little ironic to see a regular civilian running PR bullshit (BF4/killzone multi 60FPS? games "targeting" 60FPS which have only been shown to struggle with 30) in response to a paid PR rep running PR bullshit

 

[NullPointer]

Then they shouldn't charge more for it.

The cost difference is fairly marginal.

 

[pixlexic]

Microsoft you were doing so well for awhile at keeping your mouth shut about this

Right... I'd rather they go with " specs don't win wars" approach because at least that's true.

 

[Gaz_RB]

Both are nice but overrated.

Ryse is overrated?

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

Eh, not everyone likes PS exclusives.

I enjoyed a couple last gen. Uncharted 2 was the best for me.

Do I have to go digging through HighDefDigest forums for quotes from this past generation?

Be my guest. Go ahead and pull quotes from a different website on different threads that have nothing to do with this topic at all. I don't care if you go off topic. Everyone here knows I'm an Xbot. Not sure why you got so rattled I agreed with Sinjitsu and then said that imo it's been a great launch. Rattled it seems. Good to see you with a different screen name here.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Of course when one considers it is only about the games and not the spec you'd realize what that means right?


More ambitious hardware heavy games need better specs so in the coming years when a said game comes out on only one console and PC because the specs of the other console can't handle it then will the specs not matter anymore?


Also that is without considering that certain 1st party devs would have more breathing room to jam in more stuff for their upcoming exclusives

 

[stargateheaven]

Wish they would shutup. How many times do they need to say this?

 

[flkraven]

Sometimes it feels like gamers wait around waiting for things to get up-in-arms over. Alan Bowman, Microsoft's Australasian vice president of retail sales & marketing, in a long-ass interview dares to utter the words 'from just a pure specs perspective it’s always gonna be fairly marginal difference', and it gets a front page article on Gamespot and an incoming 50 page thread on GAF. Time to buckle in I guess...

The fact that this is news seems crazy post-launch

 

[RedNumberFive]

But.. Power of the cloud???

They dropped that messaging when they realized no one was buying into that nonsense.

 

[JetSetRadio]

Yeah right lolz.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Why do they keep bringing this up? At this point it's like they have a chip on their shoulder

 

[SmokedMeat]

I wouldn't put it past them to slip some money to developers to make sure the games reflect this.

 

[Chobel]

PR gonna PR.

 

[R3TRO]

I enjoyed a couple last gen. Uncharted 2 was the best for me.

I like KZ2, Uncharted 1, TLOU, Resistance 1 ,MGSIV, and Beyond. The rest are dumpster lining.

 

[RedNumberFive]

Why do they keep bringing this up? At this point it's like they have a chip on their shoulder

Remember when they were talking up the strength of their all-in-one media box? Then they realized gamers don't give a shit and all of a sudden it was a console made for gamers by gamers.

 

[jelly]

Exclusive content benefits no consumer. Your pissing money down the drain. I don't want you wasting money on such things. Your paying so other people can't get that content, end of story. That doesn't show value, it shows you are myopic losers in suits who won't invest in new games and would rather take the easy cheat route to success. Shameful tactic and always will be.

 

[SwiftDeath]

on the one hand, the differences are pretty pronounced, on the other hand it's more than a little ironic to see a regular civilian running PR bullshit (BF4/killzone multi 60FPS? games "targeting" 60FPS which have only been shown to struggle with 30) in response to a paid PR rep running PR bullshit

Uh both dead rising and ryse have drops from 30fps too. Poster is not trying to bullshit but how exactly would you indicate the framerate in an objective fashion other than in what the devs targeted?

I like KZ2, Uncharted 1, TLOU, Resistance 1 ,MGSIV, and Beyond. The rest are dumpster lining.

Wow Gaf hyperbole at its finest. Have you played puppeteer btw?

 

[AlphaDump]

I love the graphic in the article comparing the PS4 vs Xbox One http://www.gamespot.com/articles/next-gen-console-comparison-ps3-ps4-xbox-one-xbox-360/1100-6416217/

It should be sponsored by Master Chief

funny enough, i typed "Mary Kish" into google and it brought up this:

http://indieviddy.com/

 

[jaypah]

Of course when one considers it is only about the games and not the spec you'd realize what that means right?


More ambitious hardware heavy games need better specs so in the coming years when a said game comes out on only one console and PC because the specs of the other console can't handle it then will the specs not matter anymore?


Also that is without considering that certain 1st party devs would have more breathing room to jam in more stuff for their upcoming exclusives

I wonder how long it will take for games to be developed that can only run on PS4 and PCs that are more powerful than Xbox?

 

[Devilgunman]

As many have already mention, this is PR person and he was being asked. We don't know what he was asked but if it was something like "what do you think about Sony saying PS4 is more powerful than Xbone? " What would you answer if you are in his shoes?

 

[BlockheadBrown]

Ryse is overrated?

It's a short game. Most of the people I know regret paying full price for it. Game mechanic issues aside, they don't feel it's worth it. MS wanted something like a OMG God of War clone and didn't really get it. I'm not saying it's a bad game. I just know people who were stoked over it and are now just "over it".

 

[beast786]

I like KZ2, Uncharted 1, TLOU, Resistance 1 ,MGSIV, and Beyond. The rest are dumpster lining.

I wish I could Rx a pill for bad taste. ;p

 

[XJF]

They also thought HD-DVD was superior to Blu-Ray lol

Anyways, I have both consoles, and I have yet to see a discernible difference. Then again I only really play Forza on my X1, and maybe a bit of KI

 

[boeso]

Thread #12404 of company PR trying to talk good of their product.

Seriously, we dont need a 10,000 page discussion of why this isn't true. Its PR.

PR that needs to be shot down. If you don't people could see the trend of BS and start to believe. What was that Goebbels quote again?

Spoiler

A moot point on NeoGaf, but its a good habit to spread

 

[flkraven]

I wonder how long it will take for games to be developed that can only run on PS4 and PCs that are more powerful than Xbox?

I wouldn't start putting PS4s in the same category as PCs. The PS4 is definitely more powerful than Xbox, but it is much closer to XB1 than to PCs. In a few years, the gap between PS4/XB1 and PCs will look much larger, while the gap between PS4/XB1 will look smaller.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Eh, not everyone likes exclusives.

Fixed for accuracy. Had a 360 the entire generation, never cared for Halo or Gears. Needle goes both ways.

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

I like KZ2, Uncharted 1, TLOU, Resistance 1 ,MGSIV, and Beyond. The rest are dumpster lining.

I enjoyed U2, MLB the Show (i'll get my ps4 for that game.. can't wait for that game.) and Infamous. Enjoyed that one too for the most part. I look forward to the new versions of all those games on the PS4. I never tried the last of us, so I also look forward to either that port, or a part 2.

Fixed for accuracy. Had a 360 the entire generation, never cared for Halo or Gears. Needle goes both ways.

I heard that. I have a couple friends who feel the same way. They just weren't feeling them. The same how I couldn't find any love of playing KZ. It looked awesome.. just didn't like the feel of controls.

 

[bombshell]

Perfect lol

 

[i-Lo]

It is what it is and it will manifest itself in the games that will be released over the next 5-6 years. Adding adjectives to wrap objective data is pointless regardless which way the bias swings.

 

[R3TRO]

Wow Gaf hyperbole at its finest. Have you played puppeteer btw?

I haven't turned on my PS3 since I got my PS4 but if there is a demo I'll fire it up.

 

[ironcreed]

I am expecting to see the biggest differences in power when it comes to exclusives, where the PS4 will no doubt shine. That being said, the Xbox One is still big enough of a jump over last generation for me and it will no doubt have some great games. In fact, right now it has more games I want to play, plus some neat features that I know I'll use. That is why I'll probably buy one before I buy a PS4.

 

[swcpig]

War.... war never changes....

 

[hawk2025]

I like KZ2, Uncharted 1, TLOU, Resistance 1 ,MGSIV, and Beyond. The rest are dumpster lining.

Yeesh. No accounting for taste, I guess.

 

[Nymphae]

...but I think it comes down to the games. You're gonna see great exclusive games on Xbox One, and when you look at the cross-platform games, and there's gonna be exclusive content on Xbox One."

Yeah how many times are they gonna say this?

And what does that even mean about the cross-platform games? They won't be as technically proficient, but they'll have exclusive DLC and timed maps or some shit. Nice.

 

[Demon Ice]

Man. They're STILL trying to pull the wool over consumers' eyes after both consoles have been out for a while? Desperation.


Maybe they consider 720p vs 1080p a "marginal" difference.

 

[Pain]

We're far past arguing power differences. Just stop it Microsoft.

 

[StratJ]

They dropped that messaging when they realized no one was buying into that nonsense.

I get the specs difference, I get a lot of things regarding the hatred on here towards the X1. One thing I don't get is people claiming that the cloud is nonsense, its such a simple concept.

Especially when a forum is claimed to be full of techies and insiders.

Flame shield rising.

EDIT: And they've even shown it at build.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I wonder how long it will take for games to be developed that can only run on PS4 and PCs that are more powerful than Xbox?

some time... not any time soon (more earlier for indies)

and that is considering that the PS4 will run it at a somewhat low setting

I am curios on how your are able to make so many thread specific gifs so efficiently

 

[bombshell]

I haven't turned on my PS3 since I got my PS4 but if there is a demo I'll fire it up.

There is a demo.

I am curios on how your are able to make so many thread specific gifs so efficiently

This one I saw him post in another thread some time ago, so it's not new for this thread.

 

[Spottiettiedop]

History has shown PlayStation is the place to go if you want a variety of high quality exclusives every year.

Except this past launch/year one.

 

[NullPointer]

I am expecting to see the biggest differences in power when it comes to exclusives, where the PS4 will no doubt shine. That being said, the Xbox One is still big enough of a jump over last generation for me and it will no doubt have some great games. In fact, right now it has more games I want to play, plus some neat features that I know I'll use. That is why I'll probably buy one before I buy a PS4.

Yeah, well... thats just... very reasonable and makes perfect sense.