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[Sho_Nuff82]

Just imagine where they'd be if this price cut happened 6-8 months ago like it should have.

100x this. MS sat on GTA4's launch and did absolutely nothing. Nice to finally see some renewed interest in the box.

thuway, I can now see why you're waiting so impatiently for Kagari's return to the retail impressions thread, sheesh tone it down. Your damage control is unbelievable.

 

[GhaleonEB]

An interesting thing to note:

It will be interesting to see if that level of sales keeps going. If so, the Arcade SKU will finally be doing what the Core SKU was intended to do all along.

 

[pswii60]

Just looked at amazon, I don't see it.

I remember after PS3's first price drop last year, it remained at #1 on Amazon for weeks. And yet 360 still beat it in the NPD. Take from that what you will.

 

[Psychotext]

Why so many defensive posts in here? Wow.

Anyway... from a Sales Age points of view I'd be interested in how this pans out over the month. September's never really been a brisk month for games console sales so I don't reckon we'll be seeing anything particularly spectacular here, and at a guess it'll be less than last year's September figures.

I suspect this will do them much more good when the holiday games kick in and the "new xbox experience" PR starts rolling.

 

[Kagari]

100x this. MS sat on GTA4's launch and did absolutely nothing. Nice to finally see some renewed interest in the box.

thuway, I can now see why you're waiting so impatiently for Kagari's return to the retail impressions thread, sheesh tone it down. Your damage control is unbelievable.

I'm off work for a while :lol
Other people can make the threads if they want.

 

[Zzoram]

Same reasoning. I feel sorry for anyone who bought one last Friday or Saturday :lol

most places have price protection for at least 1 week

 

[TDG]

Hey you guys are probably sales nerds (and I use that term lovingly), right? Can you guys explain something to me?

...Why do all the NPD threads start with a page and a half of people saying "WOOOOOOOOOW" and "HOLY FUCK" and "WOWOWOWOWOW" every single month? I mean, I'd think that after following NPDs for a few months, the sales would stop surprising you. Every month that I look at the NPDs they look pretty much the same as last month...

 

[thuway]

I remember after PS3's first price drop last year, it remained at #1 on Amazon for weeks. And yet 360 still beat it in the NPD. Take from that what you will.

This.

Also the 360 has three SKUs in the top 25.

 

[WrikaWrek]

Doubling sales is nice..

....... but you have to wonder how many of those new owners simply delayed their purchase by a couple of weeks due to the leaked news of the price cut.

I mean sales could have dropped 50% the week before due to people waiting for the price cut.....so doubling could simply mean it returned to its normal sales.

Yeah.

I mean what if the sales the week before were almost 0, which means that we don't even know if doubling the sales is as good as "normal" sales in the 1st place.

I bet the price drop will have a reverse effect on the 360.

 

[Paracelsus]

Did the gamecube have similar results when it was cut to 99$?

Apparently so

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-3177440/Nintendo-News-Flash-Price-Cut.html

"Clearly, this move is what game players desired, also what our retail partners wanted," says George Harrison, senior vice...

But this time is different. You have Gamecube mk.II and Gamecube mk.III , they don't care about the PS2 mk.II as long as they can beat the hell out of each other. It's on a way lower level than the Xbox vs NGC battle.

 

[Parch]

If Sony doesn't price drop they'll get killed in Q4.
The 360's new prices along with the already impressive library should make it a very happy holidays for 360 sales. It just might continue well into next year.

 

[Elios83]

Since we don't know last week's sales it's hard to make any comment right now.
When August NPD numbers are released tomorrow we can take the average week in August and considering that the week immediatly before a price cut (a long known price cut too) should be weaker than the average, doubling that we can have an idea.
BTW this is an important price cut so Microsoft should pray that it works well.

 

[Talamius]

Sustaining decent numbers SHOULD happen. Microsoft will have the price cut bump in September, and October begins U.S. holiday momentum.

It will probably be January or February before we see a true picture of the price cut impact. Anything less than the 360's '07 holiday performance now would be a disaster.

 

[Paracelsus]

If Sony doesn't price drop they'll get killed in Q4.

If they drop it in Q4 they'll be even more in red than they'd be this way. Selling a shitload of hardware while still losing money on it? Not a great idea.

 

[Kagari]

Since we don't know last week's sales it's hard to make any comment right now.
When August NPD numbers are released tomorrow we can take the average week in August and considering that the week immediatly before a price cut (a long known price cut too) should be weaker than the average, doubling that we can have an idea.
BTW this is an important price cut so Microsoft should pray that it works well.

Hopefully it won't be ignored like it was in Europe.

 

[The Faceless Master]

only double?

and the day before NPD too?

24 hours to go!

 

[womfalcs3]

Didn't X360 sales increase by 100% in Europe for a brief period of time too after their 50-Euro price cut?

 

[Mrbob]

Don't drink the PR kool aid 100 percent.

This could be damage control as well considering they made this statement a day before August NPD is out.

MS posted no hard numbers, just spinned percentages based off of one weekend.

 

[WrikaWrek]

Hopefully it won't be ignored like it was in Europe.

I see you are spreading Wollan's bs.

Man, you guys just love it. I love how you add the "hopefully" too. Ugh, i'm out of sales threads, the passive aggressive trolling is off the charts.

 

[Metalmurphy]

More people without HDDs is exactly what we needed.

 

[Johann]

Did the gamecube have similar results when it was cut to 99$?

I dont think 200-300 is a mass market price. Thats a high price you use for a hot item (wii, ps2, Ipod). Mass market is more like 99-149 range. Wii is readily available everywhere in Japan, but the sales start falling back into 120,000ish a month because I would assume the 200$ equivalent there isnt in line with what most people are willing to spend.

What usually happens is that the market leader's software selection becomes peerless by the time the opposition gets to that price. Consumers would buy the leading system with the best software.

The Gamecube didn't stand a chance since most of its software was available on the PS2 and its exclusives didn't arrive in a consistent enough pace. PS2 owners would ignore the pricedrop and just use the money to buy more PS2 games.

 

[FoxhoundNL]

Because a week and a half worth of sales encompasses the grand scheme of things?

No, because lower prices are better for everyone? (well except Sony maybe, but who cares)

 

[Truespeed]

Much ado about nothing, perhaps? A price cut occurs and, of course, there's going to be a blip in the sales chart. The question is whether it's sustainable.

 

[BravoSuperStar]

this cannot possibly be true because it would mean a thread that could be misconstrued as positive to MS was posted on neogaf.

 

[Talamius]

Don't eat up the PR drivel 100 percent.

This could be damage control as well considering they made this statement a day before August NPD is out.

MS posted no hard numbers, just spinned percentages based off of one weekend.

If the 360 doesn't outsell the PS3 this holiday season, they'd be all but forced to start ramping up the next generation. They have the oldest system on market, so it stands to reason the first "720" rumblings will begin early next year. That would give Microsoft 2 years to actually produce the new system, which falls right in line with most people's predictions of a 2011 start to the next generation.

 

[Psychotext]

More people without HDDs is exactly what we needed.

That ship has long, long, long since sailed.

 

[Threi]

More people without HDDs is exactly what we needed.

Sucks to be you.

I hope all of you feel the searing spit when i buy my Arcade

 

[OldJadedGamer]

More people without HDDs is exactly what we needed.

It's a TCR that every game run without a HDD anyway unless you gets super extra permission from MS directly which only two games in the states have so why would it matter if more systems didn't have a HDD?

this cannot possibly be true because it would mean a thread that could be misconstrued as positive to MS was posted on neogaf.

Don't worry, the warning went out and the defense team has already assembled and are slowing trickling into the thread.

 

[womfalcs3]

More people without HDDs is exactly what we needed.

It's not really a big deal. MS is still making money from hardware and disc games plenty with Arcade users. Why does it matter to you? Games won't force you to use HDD... ever.

 

[Scotch]

So what are some websites/forums where they open these puppies up? I'd like to know if the Jaspers are out there yet.

 

[Psychotext]

I'd like to know if the Jaspers are out there yet.

Not yet.

 

[AranhaHunter]

If Sony doesn't price drop they'll get killed in Q4.
The 360's new prices along with the already impressive library should make it a very happy holidays for 360 sales. It just might continue well into next year.

They're gonna lose no matter what, so they might as well go for profitability and cut the price next year. They'll still beat the 360 in Europe and Japan so all is well for them.

 

[Truespeed]

More people without HDDs is exactly what we needed.

That Arcade unit has saved you from mandatory installs. You should be thanking it, not mocking it. Praise the Arcade, brother.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Sucks to be you.

I hope all of you feel the searing spit when i buy my Arcade

I dont see much reason to buy a 360 without live. Most of the games have fantastic multiplayer support and community integration that highlights the 'passable' single player modes. And why deny yourself some of the fantastic xbla stuff? Im thinking of getting an arcade once they release the rumored $99 hdd+3monthsfreelive+headset bundle.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Much ado about nothing, perhaps? A price cut occurs and, of course, there's going to be a blip in the sales chart. The question is whether it's sustainable.

Yup. Let's wait to see September NPD and see how the movement really is.

 

[Darkman M]

I dont see much reason to buy a 360 without live. Most of the games have fantastic multiplayer support and community integration that highlights the 'passable' single player modes. And why deny yourself some of the fantastic xbla stuff? Im thinking of getting an arcade once they release the rumored $99 hdd+3monthsfreelive+headset bundle.

Maybe he wants to play single player games? Live is awesome but far from a necessity.

 

[Threi]

I dont see much reason to buy a 360 without live. Most of the games have fantastic multiplayer support and community integration that highlights the 'passable' single player modes. And why deny yourself some of the fantastic xbla stuff? Im thinking of getting an arcade once they release the rumored $99 hdd+3monthsfreelive+headset bundle.

Unless there is a way to cheat the system and live off free XBLA trials i refuse to pay for it.

*edit* And yeah, like the dude in the post before me said, I am mostly planning on picking up Singleplayer/Local Multiplayer games.

 

[Shnookums]

"Additionally, retailers are reporting that between Friday, Sept. 5 and Sunday, Sept. 7, some Xbox 360 models were selling at six times the rate they were the weekend prior," the company continued.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54673

 

[Kagari]

Unless there is a way to cheat the system and live off free XBLA trials i refuse to pay for it.

Well, you could just create a new account every time if you wanted...

 

[Crisis]

The wording of that gives it all away.

Retailers reported a 100 percent increase in sales for all models compared with the previous weekend

You mean the previous weekend that everybody knew there was a price cut coming for the 360? I'm sure that September's NPD will have the Xbox 360 doing well but that doesn't say much for the sales of the console.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

I dont see much reason to buy a 360 without live. Most of the games have fantastic multiplayer support and community integration that highlights the 'passable' single player modes. And why deny yourself some of the fantastic xbla stuff? Im thinking of getting an arcade once they release the rumored $99 hdd+3monthsfreelive+headset bundle.

You need a memory card to go online and play live games... and a memory card already comes in the arcade box.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

So only gamestop managers went to the conference, and you were calling Gamestops all over to know if anyone had impressions on R2 or whatever.

So you are telling me that you actually pick up a phone to start a conversation with a Gamestop employee? That by itself is fucked up, and to top it all you even ask about the availability of 360s, not because apparently you are looking to buy one, but simply to get a better sense on how it's doing.


That's just shheesh, goddamn man. You deserve some sort of praise to be so into it.

When we work at GS, we don't give numbers of allocation over the phone. We people call in to ask for the Wii, we just tell them that they have some in. That is all.

:lol @ people being worked up because Microsoft is selling some more 360s. :lol

 

[soco]

The wording of that gives it all away.



You mean the previous weekend that everybody knew there was a price cut coming for the 360? I'm sure that September's NPD will have the Xbox 360 doing well but that doesn't say much for the sales of the console.

of course, isn't that clear without even seeing that? we've known about these price cuts for a very long time now, so it's not a surprise a lot of people were just holding off. we're not gonna be able to tell anything until the october&november NPD.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

of course, isn't that clear without even seeing that? we've known about these price cuts for a very long time now, so it's not a surprise a lot of people were just holding off. we're not gonna be able to tell anything until the october&november NPD.

Aren't we getting August NPD tomorrow? Take the August number, divide by 4, multiply by 2 to get this weeks numbers is how the usual math works.

If the 360 went over 200k in August, which should be a lock with Madden and all, we should expect a monster September with the price drop + Rock Band 2 instrument packs.

 

[Metalmurphy]

That Arcade unit has saved you from mandatory installs. You should be thanking it, not mocking it. Praise the Arcade, brother.

Isn't the DVD fast enough? Why would mandatory installs be a problem if all had hard drives? I mean HDD is already used in some games either you want it to or not.

 

[soco]

Aren't we getting August NPD tomorrow? Take the August number, divide by 4, multiply by 2 to get this weeks numbers is how the usual math works.

If the 360 went over 200k in August, which should be a lock with Madden and all, we should expect a monster September with the price drop + Rock Band 2 instrument packs.

i think we can all guess they're not basing it off of NPD. IMO, you'll see a rise for september, but it'st not going to say much as we know people have been holding off. when some of the bigger games start and the holiday shopping gets underway, then we can really see the effects of the price cut.

just my guess, though.

 

[Jumpman23]

I say let's give it some time and see the long lasting results of this. If history is any indication, these price cuts typically are a flash in the pan. A bunch of quick sales in the beginning and then everything is back to normal.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Can't wait until NPD is in and the 360 is a whopping 20K above PS3.

 

[Private Hoffman]

If Sony doesn't price drop they'll get killed in Q4.
The 360's new prices along with the already impressive library should make it a very happy holidays for 360 sales. It just might continue well into next year.

Doubtful.

Sony is apparently having trouble getting in enough stock at many stores. If that's the case, a price drop won't help and they might as well stick with the current price.

 

[titiklabingapat]

That's it?

It better be sustained, otherwise, the price cut was just a stopgap.