It's going to be 2 360s taped to a Xbox One S mounted on an original XBOX.
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Microsoft: Xbox Scorpio's power advantage over PS4 Pro 'will be obvious'
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It's going to be 2 360s taped to a Xbox One S mounted on an original XBOX.
Obliterator
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Haha I love it!!
TheLostBigBoss
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Oh god we're going to have mid-generation console wars
InsaneTiger
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This is definitely a "no shit" moment. I just wonder if XB1 is the base and the power difference is that huge, what would be the point? Just say you fucked up, release the Xbox 2wo and make it BC with 360 and One games, price it right, call it a day and pray for sales.
We must destroy Soul
LOL.
No one expects the Scorpio to turn things around. It is to late Sony has to big of a lead and mind share. The Scorpio is all about an olive branch to the core gamers to rebuild the brand. I do laugh that Scorpio threads always turn into sales threads. People need to quit being so defensive and celebrate MS trying to push technology and maybe push Sony when the PS5 comes out.
What I can say is that the lead up to the PS4 and XBO launches in 2013 was greatly entertaining. Sitting back and watching the fanboys rage, corporate shills with sock puppet account getting exposed and banned on this forum, fighting over resolution, and all the other drama.
Hopefully 2017 will be similar purely for my entertainment.
Hopefully 2017 will be similar purely for my entertainment.
I said in case MS don't fuck up like Sony. What games did Sony show yesterday for the pro? the only first party game that seemed like some effort actually went into it was Horizon. I like Sony lineup a lot more than MS but where were they yesterday?
Why does people sound very confident about this? at the very least Sony WILL lose some market share to MS due to this. Just because it's Sony in this gen doesn't mean they can't lose at least some market share.
Going to?
I hope we get complex factions like PS4-Scorpio fans and XB1-Pro fans
I want Obsidian Entertainment storytelling as well
Blackleg-sanji1
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Console wars for your console wars... console warception. My ps4 is better than your Xbox one and Xbox one S but my Scorpio is better than your ps4 and ps4 pro..ugh
CrazedProfessional
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Microsoft deserves unlimited praise. Cannot wait.
Hey don't forget us NX fans. THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: BRO IN THE WILD!
Not an xbox fan unfortunately. It is a parody of a post from Albert Penello, the MS executive being interviewed.
Unknown?
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It's not a bit more... If the difference between 4.2 and 6 TF is apparent then the difference between 1.8 and 4.2 will be a hell of a lot more!
Primethius
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We sound confident because we've seen how this generation plays out. And how previous generations played out.
And if you think the way MS has been marketing the Scorpio will allow them to gain market share, I'm not really seeing it.
It seems, much like the PS4 Pro, a system designed to appeal to fans within the ecosystem.
duhmetree
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I will probably buy a WiiU or NX to play Zelda. Not because Nintendo has powerful consoles.. because Nintendo has a game I really, really want to play. Microsoft, as of right now, doesn't have that ( for me at least )
Who know things can change by late 2017 into 2018 and Microsoft can build up a stable of enticing software.
InsaneTiger
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PS4 Bro...nice
MS didn't care about the price either, if MS priced it at $399 to begin with it would be in a much better place despite the power difference.
DangerMouse
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Then you probably won't want to upgrade this one either, since it's still for playing Xbox One games "a little better" than the one you already own.
Power helped, but pretty sure people cared especially about comparative price and PS4 not being anti-consumer like the original XBone (the two largest E3 reactions), before they backtracked when they saw those preorders. And Sony partnering with Destiny, etc.
I'm a Nintendo fan, I've dealt with last gen graphics for a while now, lol. Granted I have other consoles and a PC to lean on, too.
Then you probably won't want to upgrade this one either, since it's still for playing Xbox One games "a little better" than the one you already own.
We'll see what's true and what isn't in a year and I'll make my choice then. I can happily not upgrade to either if I see no reason to.
Interficium
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Then Sony can do exactly what Microsoft is doing now, which is say "why buy a scorpio now when PS5 is just around the corner and will crush the scorpio"
The only difference is that they'll be saying that while being in the position of overwhelming market leader, to a playstation install base that will be likely be around 30+ million users larger than Xbox by the time Scorpio rolls out.
I'm a big Microsoft fan, but at this point we need to content to justify Scorpio. This years line-up, while strong, is perfectly fine on current hardware and isn't compelling enough to justify Scorpio (imo). Hopefully they have some stuff in the pipe to ensure the consoles power is justified.
Obliterator
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AyaisMUsikWhore
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This also counts for people who are so sure it's going to be $399 too right?
KyanMehwulfe
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Competition is good. Pro's specs are pushing the Scorpio to be better. Hopefully Scorpio pushes the PS5 to be better, too, 2-3 years later. Likewise whatever Xbox does next, too. We win with better consoles. Let's!
Doesnt matter really, could be like a PC game with Medium Setting vs Very High settings.
Call it a day and pray for sales sounds like a pretty stupid gameplan to me. You can't just start the next generation because you feel like it (unless you're Sega, cus then fuck it YOLO).
You'll just piss off your previous customers that bought your last console, and the game's will still be held back by the OG PS4 regardless. Nobody's making Scorpio exclusive games, instead of a multiplat release that can target like 50+ million PS4s as well. So if the bar's going to be a stock PS4 anyway, may as well make it a stock XB1... it's never stopped PCs from showing meaningful improvements.
Absolutely.
Blackleg-sanji1
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It was up to me you'd all get ps3/360 2013 graphics but using all this power for more interesting gameplay stuff(Idk what but it would be amazing)
We don't know.
Lisa Su said no Zen semicustom solutions until 2018, so we'll have to see.
I said this in the Scorpio thread but I'm expecting its final performance to be a bit higher than 6TF. I think MS wants to be able to advertise 4K/60 by next fall and they'll need to bump up the performance a bit more to hit that IMO. Hopefully the parts costs drop to the point where that's possible at $399-499 range in Fall 2017.
Astral Dog
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wow so the shots are being fired already, even the obvious
this sounds like wishfull thinking.
this sounds like wishfull thinking.
bananafactory
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It won't even be close. Scorpio is a 'next gen' system if those specs turn out accurate
Maybe they will use Excavator
Obliterator
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Not even kinda, I don't currently own an Xbox One and game 80% PS4 and 20% PC
But its the smart call for MS
rokkerkory
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They have to if they talking all this ish
MarineMountie
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The more I think about it, the more this makes so much sense for Sony.
They have a commanding(dominating) lead this generation. Now, they come out with a much more powerful system halfway into the console's lifespan where many will upgrade, and many will jump into this generation for the first time. The lead is going to keep growing and growing. Its a fine console, one that gives users choice on how to use the hardware. FPS, better graphics, whatever. The player gets to choose. Microsoft is coming in a year late with a more powerful box, but well behind in the install base. A lot of users will be so into the Sony ecosystem, especially now with the Pro, that I don't see the Scorpio even making a dent into the massive lead Sony will have by this time next year.
Myself, I just love Sony exclusives while XBOX has next to nothing that interests me. I have a PC for Forza Horizon 3, and besides that there is nothing in the games department that makes me want to jump back into that ecosystem(I had a 360).
I really don't care about console wars and all that jazz, as I just love games. From a business standpoint though, I think Sony is just killing it.
They have a commanding(dominating) lead this generation. Now, they come out with a much more powerful system halfway into the console's lifespan where many will upgrade, and many will jump into this generation for the first time. The lead is going to keep growing and growing. Its a fine console, one that gives users choice on how to use the hardware. FPS, better graphics, whatever. The player gets to choose. Microsoft is coming in a year late with a more powerful box, but well behind in the install base. A lot of users will be so into the Sony ecosystem, especially now with the Pro, that I don't see the Scorpio even making a dent into the massive lead Sony will have by this time next year.
Myself, I just love Sony exclusives while XBOX has next to nothing that interests me. I have a PC for Forza Horizon 3, and besides that there is nothing in the games department that makes me want to jump back into that ecosystem(I had a 360).
I really don't care about console wars and all that jazz, as I just love games. From a business standpoint though, I think Sony is just killing it.
Its very possible, or Puma, either one would be a jump over Jaguar.
But Zen i think is in a very iffy situation considering how new it is, they had to push it back for its main launch on desktop to next year as it is, and that will definately stall their low powered APU solutions too, as well as the aforementioned Zen semicustom plans from Sony and MS that they will definitely want to use in their consoles after the upcoming ones, at the very earliest
The power jump would be really underwhelming for a full generational leap and there are still a lot of fresh Xbox Ones purchases out in the wild. Also, the baseline for 3rd party games (the vast majority of the console's library) would still be the OG PS4 so you would only see the benefits on a handful of MS published titles in a world where 1st party games rarely drive hardware. It would just be bad PR all around for little to no gain.
InsaneTiger
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They did it with the Xbox. 360 was only 4 years later.
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