Is this the thread where we just worship Fincher for a week and praise the perfection that is Zodiac because there is nothing else to discuss?
i am here for this discussion alone
Is this the thread where we just worship Fincher for a week and praise the perfection that is Zodiac because there is nothing else to discuss?
It seems David Fincher is already pretty heavily involved with Mindhunter Season 2. He did an interview this week in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and said he mapped out a 5 year plan for the series. Fincher also said Mindhunter S2 was supposed to start filming last Spring (before a single episode even aired), but he decided to delay production to 2018 because he wanted more time to work on the scripts.
Looks good! Finally something that actually excites me on Netflix.
Yes, but only after we get done worshiping Villeneuve first.
The Mindhunter TV series project had been in the works for awhile. Six years ago, it was set up at HBO with Fincher and Theron executive producing and Fox 21, which had optioned the book, as the studio. (Fox 21 is no longer involved.) Scott Buck, who served as executive producer/showrunner on the last four seasons of another series killer drama, Showtime's Dexter, was tapped to write the script. He is not expected to be involved in the Netflix incarnation of the project; Buck just landed another high-profile gig at Netflix as the showrunner on its Marvel's Iron Fist series.
That's practically the Pulp Fiction of dodged bullets. We got extremely luckyI want to take this moment to remind everyone what a bullet we dodged.
From 2015: http://deadline.com/2015/12/mindhun...d-fincher-charlize-theron-netflix-1201669181/
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I believe this is set in 1979? Not sure how much of a time period the show covers, but the people that the show is based on were active into the 80s, including cases like Dahmer and the West Memphis Three case. The latter might be interesting if they cover it from a critical perspective, with the confidence in these newly-formed field resulting in bad decisionsA five year plan for a Mindhunter series seems kinda overly ambitious? I wonder what the hook is.
"The show will be... it's a period piece. We're set in 1978 and it will span 20 years, you know, over the course of several seasons. And we're going to investigate all of the famous serial killers in the United States including Charles Manson."
"We outlined five seasons for Netflix", Mr. Fincher said. "We know the scene it ends on, where the target is." But he acknowledges making a high quality TV drama is an imperfect science. Elements producers originally planned for season two were cannibalized by season one. Production on season two was supposed to begin earlier this year, but Mr. Fincher said a first crack at scripts for a second season did not go as well as planned. Those scripts were discarded and new ones are being written with a goal of production recommencing in Pittsburgh next spring on a second season that's largely about the 1979-81 Atlanta Child Murders.
Here are a few snippets I found from interviews with the cast/crew that offer a bit of insight on David Fincher's longer term plans for the show.
From the Rutten and Ranallo Podcast with Holt McCallany, Jan 9, 2017
From The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Oct 8, 2017
- New York Times: Review: Netflixs Mindhunter Is More Chatter Than Splatter.Free of the constraints of exposition, Mindhunter is able to enjoy how parodically self-important these FBI agents can be and how silly their aversion to psychology is. And when these relatively normal humans are put face-to-face with monsters like Kemper, their shock and horror combined with a genuine desire to understand stands in for the viewing audiences long-lived fascination with serial killers. There is a subtle, buried thread of Mindhunter that is curious about our collective fascination with these murderers, and when that surfaces, the show approaches brilliance. Even the opening chords of the Talking Heads Psycho Killer cant disturb the mood.
- Time: Netflixs Mindhunter Is the Perfect Crime Drama for Our Times.I say all this with what has become the usual caveat for a Netflix show. Streaming dramas nowadays take so long to establish their premises that I dont know if the two episodes Ive seen are representative or just setup. Its possible Mindhunter may settle into a more predictable monster chase. Lets hope not; the chase after ideas here is more interesting.
- Indiewire: Mindhunter Review: David Finchers Netflix Return Debates the Origins of Evil And Its Pretty Funny, Too.This tension, even more so than its subject matter, is what makes Mindhunter feel perfectly timed. Crime drama can, at its worst, revel in the grossest sort of spectatorship. Shows like CBSs Criminal Minds, or ones that trade on the names of real-life murderers, can all too easily slip into gratuitousness for its own sake. (That programs star, Mandy Patinkin, quit after two seasons over its content.) But at its best, the genre tries to understand the roots of crime by investigating some of humanitys most vexing paradoxes. Mindhunter, curious and thoughtful, is an example of the latter.
- THR: Review.Mindhunter wants to eradicate the concept of other using a figure everyone instinctually wants to distance themselves from: a murderer. This isnt your typical good vs. evil, cops vs. robbers procedural. If anything, its trying to eliminate those conceptions. Sometimes its funny. Often its chilling. But however you take it, at least Mindhunter is working a fresh angle.
- Usa Today: Review: Netflix and David Finchers Mindhunter is a beautiful but listless crime drama.The first two episodes of Netflix's FBI profiler drama are a prime showcase for director David Fincher.
- Vice: 'Mindhunter' Is Classic, Serial Killer-Obsessed David Fincher.But Mindhunter, at least in the first two episodes made available for review, is also meandering. Its not as tight and gripping as Finchers earlier Netflix series, House of Cards (at least in the early episodes that Fincher directed), and feels less like a cohesive TV series and more like an extended film. For some, that may be a bonus, but on Mindhunter the overall effect is a sense of listlessness, which is odd considering the urgency of its subject matter.
My partner told me to turn up the brightness while watching Mindhunter, because Fincher stays true to his nickname: the prince of darkness. As with every Fincher production, the direction is immaculate and precise. The camera moves like it was calculated to land in the exact spot, down to the micro millimetre. The design of the series is minimalist without going over the top to remind you it's set in the 70s and the cinematography, by Erik Messerschmidt and Christopher Probst, evokes the sepia-toned work of Harris Savides in Zodiac. Fincher's trademark shadows stalk every frame.
If you have a Netflix subscription you are being spoiled with Mindhunter. Don't perceive this series as Fincher taking a step back from film to ride the popularity of streaming services. Mindhunter is like a companion to Zodiac, and based on first impressions it's essential viewing for Fincher fans and anyone fascinated by
Do we know what time specifically the show is going up?
The design of the series is minimalist without going over the top to remind you it's set in the 70s and the cinematography, by Erik Messerschmidt and Christopher Probst, evokes the sepia-toned work of Harris Savides in Zodiac.
Mindhunter is like a companion to Zodiac, and based on first impressions it's essential viewing for Fincher fans
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I want to take this moment to remind everyone what a bullet we dodged.
From 2015: http://deadline.com/2015/12/mindhun...d-fincher-charlize-theron-netflix-1201669181/
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Here are a few snippets I found from interviews with the cast/crew that offer a bit of insight on David Fincher's longer term plans for the show.
From the Rutten and Ranallo Podcast with Holt McCallany, Jan 9, 2017
From The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Oct 8, 2017
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I'll wait for the reviews.
- Variety: TV Review: Jonathan Groff in Mindhunter on Netflix.
- New York Times: Review: Netflixs Mindhunter Is More Chatter Than Splatter.
- Time: Netflixs Mindhunter Is the Perfect Crime Drama for Our Times.
- Indiewire: Mindhunter Review: David Finchers Netflix Return Debates the Origins of Evil And Its Pretty Funny, Too.
- THR: Review.
- Usa Today: Review: Netflix and David Finchers Mindhunter is a beautiful but listless crime drama.
- Vice: 'Mindhunter' Is Classic, Serial Killer-Obsessed David Fincher.
Impressions seem very positive. Can't wait to dive in today.
A while ago I felt a bit down about the quality of Netflix shows but they are on a roll recently with American Vandal and Mindhunter (and Stranger Things 2 coming soon).
Damn they showed the whole thing and outta nowhere 😩HOLY SHIT at that first five minutes. So glad this is up
It has a 75 on mc and critics only saw the first few episodes. Loads of amazing shows in the 70s.If a TV show only has like a 6.8/10 average on Rotten Tomatoes (which is typically very generous for TV series), that probably means it's not all that great.
Gonna try out an episode later on.
So it's a Netflix show. Eh.Two episodes in and basically nothing has happened
My Lord. Thank you Netflix for funding a slow deliberate period series by Fincher about serial killers. Zodiac as fuck. Two episodes in and basically nothing has happened at all but I'm fucking sold.
So it's a Netflix show. Eh.
So it's a Netflix show. Eh.
Really interested in this because of Zodiac but I have yet to see a Netflix show that doesn't bore me to death -- except for the first season of House of Cards and Orange is the New Black, I guess.