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Missouri goes HAM on welfare and unemployment.
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Yeah, basically the prosperous gospel people. The ones who say that despite Jesus constantly condemning the rich and telling them that the poor were more worthy, what he meant to say is that if you're rich you're blessed and guaranteed to get into heaven, and the poor are scum who deserve to suffer.
They just rationalize or ignore all the times that Jesus basically contradicts that (the camel through a needle's eye parable, etc.).
Fox News isn't a news network, it's a propaganda outlet for an evil political party. As absurd as that image is it's not surprising given it's Fox News.
Too often right-wingers see facts as demonizing, examples of this are plentiful. Sorry but these are not rational people. A good portion of this country has gone shitballs crazy.
HarryHengst
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Its actually pretty well documented, both the Republican Southern Strategy and poor whites leaving the Democrats due to looking towards blacks and immigrants and such.
Hell, Ken Mehlman, campaign manager for Bush and former chairman of the Republican National Committee said as much:
"Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions,"
and
"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization."
HiredN00bs
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I'm talking about the voters, those complicit, not the elected officials (although, especially at the local level, even the elected officials are just patsies towing the party line). Real change takes place because the populace changes the way they think and thus the way they vote. They aren't pushing these policies, just being misled to genuinely believe these actions will benefit the poor. There are enough of examples of it being done both ways to gather data and evidence to make an informed choice, it just needs to be relentlessly pursued, presented, and discussed. Demonizing all Republicans just gives fodder for the Rush Limbaughs of the world to further insulate them from reality.
Really they should have said the percentage of them with a roof over their head.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The bootstrap-worshiping and hatred of "welfare exploitation" is partly a monster of the conservative belief system in the first place. The one thing that does trickle down is "fuck you, I got mine". The rich are stomping on you every day and you see no way out, and no way up - so why not get what you can and take the system for a ride?
But this topic always reminds of of this TED talk on success and meritocracy:
Alain de Bottom on success
America is a culture drunk on meritocracy, it's hardly just a silicon valley cult. Everyone's position in society, to quote de Bottom, is assumed to be merited and deserved. And the problem is this belief is one of those tricky things that can feel righteous and just while secretly serving someone's own greed and arrogance. I have no doubt that plenty of people who look down on the poor believe they're doing so for the "greater good". And that taking even more away from the poor, persecuting them more harshly, is even for the poor's own good. But this is sociopathy at a cultural level.
But this topic always reminds of of this TED talk on success and meritocracy:
Alain de Bottom on success
America is a culture drunk on meritocracy, it's hardly just a silicon valley cult. Everyone's position in society, to quote de Bottom, is assumed to be merited and deserved. And the problem is this belief is one of those tricky things that can feel righteous and just while secretly serving someone's own greed and arrogance. I have no doubt that plenty of people who look down on the poor believe they're doing so for the "greater good". And that taking even more away from the poor, persecuting them more harshly, is even for the poor's own good. But this is sociopathy at a cultural level.
Nikodemos
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^^^ That sort of attitude is derived in no small part from an extreme fetishisation of the Protestant belief in the sanctity of labour. In other branches of Christianity, the poor are something to be pitied. In Protestantism, they are something to be criticised and disdained. Militant Protestantism died out (more or less) but the attitude zombied on.
exmachina64
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They always do that.
My absolute favorite is when they try and claim that "The Eye of the Needle" was the name of a particularly narrow gate into Jerusalem that a camel could just barely pass through.
Even if that were true, it wouldn't change the message at all!
It goes from "absurd and impossible" to merely "difficult."
foxuzamaki
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All the people who would vote Democrat are in the city like me, but everywhere else most consisting if farmland in the state vote republican and unfortunately they outnumber us overall.
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