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Musashi Wins! said:
Who was that skinny kid fighting Chuck Liddel on "The Best of Pride" :lol
Zuffa is lame.
I'll assume you weren't being sarcastic:

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Any rumours about where the UFC will be in August? Going to Vegas and if the UFC is there on August 14th I might have to try and get tix that won't cost me an arm and a leg :lol
 
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/New-York-Governor-Introduces-MMA-Bill-22148

The push to legalize mixed martial arts in New York is now being led by the state’s top official.

Governor David Paterson unveiled a state budget proposal Tuesday that includes a bill that would nullify a 13-year-old ban on MMA in the Empire State as a way of raising sorely needed revenue.

“Currently, 40 States safely regulate the sport of mixed martial arts and enjoy local and statewide economic benefits associated with the conduct of mixed martial arts events,” reads a summary from Paterson’s office of his revenue proposals. “While New York’s ban on professional combative sports would be removed, conduct of the sport would be carefully regulated.”

Paterson’s proposal means that legalization of MMA will be taken up as part of the annual state budget process, which has to be completed by April 1. The timeline is much stricter than it would be if an individual legislator proposed it.

If the Assembly passes the bill by April 1, Marc Ratner, the UFC’s Vice President of Regulatory Affairs, said that it could take five to six months for the New York State Athletic Commission to get up to speed and the earliest a MMA event could be held in New York would be fourth quarter of this year.


Here's hoping.
 
BigJonsson said:
Even the blind love MMA!

Bitches and MMA. He's a man among men.

Asbel said:
In other news, Nate Diaz and Diego Sanchez moved up to 170 to get raped by bigger wrestlers. Story at 11.

There is going to be some painful soul searching after their St. Pierre and then Silva fights.
 
Holy shit Brock is Wolverine CONFIRMED. He healed on his own and will be back in the summer to defend his title. Mir vs Carwin is still a 5 rounder for the interim belt.
 
polyh3dron said:
Holy shit Brock is Wolverine CONFIRMED. He healed on his own and will be back in the summer to defend his title. Mir vs Carwin is still a 5 rounder for the interim belt.


i'm at work, how did the brock/dana press conference go on espn this morning?
 
Brock's Back

UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar confirmed on Wednesday that he's completely recovered from a severe abdominal ailment and is targeting a return to MMA competition this summer.

Lesnar, who has been out of action since July due to the illlness, made the announcement alongside UFC President Dana White during a morning appearance on ESPN's "SportsCenter."

White said plans to have Shane Carwin fight Frank Mir for an interim title at UFC 111 in March would go on and that the winner will face Lesnar in a title unification bout later this year. White also said the winner of a scheduled bout between Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Cain Velasquez could be tabbed for the title fight in the event of injury to the other fighters.

White characterized Lesnar's recovery as "a miracle."

"(Doctors) basically said 'You got a lottery ticket,' " White said. "'We can't believe that you didn't need surgery.' "

In his first interview since his career was sidelined by a severe case of diverticulosis – an intestinal illness that caused a hole to develop in his stomach – Lesnar said he was "devastated" when he had to pull out of his first scheduled title defense against Carwin last year. After seeking multiple medical opinions, Lesnar said he opted not to have surgery that would have "pretty much ended (his) career," instead waiting to see if the illness would clear up on its own.

"I take my hat off to the doctors … that pretty much saved my life and my career ...," Lesnar said. "I didn't want to (have surgery). If I could beat the odds, I was going to do everything in my power to do that."

Lesnar said he lost 40 pounds as a result of the sickness, but has gained it back through training. A follow-up appointment with doctors on Jan. 5 revealed no traces of the sickness, Lesnar said.

"A miracle," Lesnar said. "They were dumbfounded. They couldn't find any signs of any problem in my stomach. I actually had to go back to the doctor yesterday to get another CT scan on my stomach because I still can't believe it."

The former NCAA national champion and WWE wrestler said there would be no lingering effects and no health risks assocaited with a return to the Octagon.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Rumble/entry/view/52662/lesnar_says_hes_completely_healed,_will_return_to_ufc
 
Good for him. Looking forward to this little HW tournament. My predictions are Mir subs Carwin, Nog subs Cain, Brock bloodies Mir and Nog
loses to Brock
 
BigJonsson said:
Any rumours about where the UFC will be in August? Going to Vegas and if the UFC is there on August 14th I might have to try and get tix that won't cost me an arm and a leg :lol

Sometimes hotels buy up UFC tickets and give them away to potential guests as an incentive/promotional thing. So keep an eye out.
 
Wait wait, Carwin vs Mir interim title bout for the next shot at Brock in the summer? Is Brock just going to fight Frank Mir over and over again for his entire MMA career?

Anyway, good to see that he beat the odds with his medical problems. That's a hell of a thing, being that close to a colostomy.
 
EviLore said:
Wait wait, Carwin vs Mir interim title bout for the next shot at Brock in the summer? Is Brock just going to fight Frank Mir over and over again for his entire MMA career?

Anyway, good to see that he beat the odds with his medical problems. That's a hell of a thing, being that close to a colostomy.
LOL EvilLore :lol :lol :lol

Now I am hoping that Carwin beats Mir to see new blood face Brock. Or Brock face the winner out of Nog / Cain first then winner of Mir / Carwin.

It is good for MMA that Brock is back!

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!

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I'm back bitches! FRATE TRAIN!
 
EviLore said:
Wait wait, Carwin vs Mir interim title bout for the next shot at Brock in the summer? Is Brock just going to fight Frank Mir over and over again for his entire MMA career?

Anyway, good to see that he beat the odds with his medical problems. That's a hell of a thing, being that close to a colostomy.
I hope so.
He needs the practice for Nog.
 
ya i'm not really too excited at the prospect of mir-brock III, brock basically kicked his ass for all but 10 seconds of their 2 fights, is there really much need for a 3rd fight?

although i wouldnt mind seeing brock pound out mir again and turn his face into a cabbage patch doll, mir is delusional i'd like to see him humbled again

although would be nice to see carwin to KO mir, so we can get a new fight
 
Asbel said:
Good for him. Looking forward to this little HW tournament. My predictions are Mir subs Carwin, Nog subs Cain, Brock bloodies Mir and Nog
loses to Brock
If all this happens the next chapter is
JDS KOs Brock, Fedor signs with UFC after cleaning out Strikeforce HW division, Fedor vs JDS for Fight Of The Forever
 
polyh3dron said:
Fedor vs JDS for Fight Of The Forever

lets hope JDS continues to improve before then, otherwise i don't think he has much to offer fedor at this point in time

i'd actually like to see JDS face cain, mir, or brock, it would be interesting to see how his tdd is, can he fight off his back, etc
 
Happy to hear Brock is back. As much as I dislike the guy, I didn't want to see him go out like that. More because he's an ass and would forever be regarded as the big mystery heavy weight that could have been the best in the world. At least now he has to prove he's actually worthy of any admiration.
 
Good news about Brock, he was to important to MMA to loose, for popularities sake if nothing else. Hopefully he is close to 100% when he takes on Mir or Carwin, i actually wouldnt mind seeing him fight Mir again now that Mir's gotten bigger and his strikings a lot crisper, but we do need Brock V Nog for sure.

If Fedor comes to UFC it will go Fedor Vs Big Country :lol , Fedor Vs Nog rematch for the ages, Fedor Vs Mir then whoevers title holder.
 
UFC Fight Night 21: Kenny Florian vs. Takanori Gomi
1/21/2010 9:30 AM ET By Michael David Smith

The UFC debut of former Pride lightweight champion Takanori Gomi is tentatively scheduled for UFC Fight Night 21 on March 31 in North Carolina, with Kenny Florian penciled in as Gomi's opponent.

ESPN's MMA Live, on which Florian is an analyst, reported the fight Thursday.

If Gomi wins, he would likely get the next shot at the UFC lightweight championship, which will be contested between B.J. Penn and Frank Edgar in April. Gomi was the Pride champion when the UFC purchased Pride, and the UFC said at the time that it wanted to unify the UFC and Pride belts. That didn't quite go as planned, and there really is no linear Pride lightweight champion anymore (you could argue that the linear Pride lightweight title belongs to Tatsuya Kawajiri), but in any event, the UFC would love to promote a Gomi-Penn rematch.

However, Florian would have to be considered a significant favorite to beat Gomi, who hasn't looked like the Fireball Kid of the Pride days in several years. Florian vs. Gomi will be an interesting fight, but it will probably be a fight that demonstrates how far Gomi has fallen from the days when he was the second-best lightweight in the world.


Gomi vs Florian on free tv??
nice :D
 
PowersOfTen said:
Sometimes hotels buy up UFC tickets and give them away to potential guests as an incentive/promotional thing. So keep an eye out.


We are staying at a timeshare resort, not one of the main strip hotels and wouldn't be gambling enough to get UFC tix anyway :p
 
Asbel said:
poor gomi. Even at gomi's peak flo would be a tough match up with his jitz and iron chin.
im still confused as to why they even signed gomi. i just dont see the upside? maybe they are paying better than japan right now?
 
Well if Gomi magically turns into the old Gomi, they've got a fighter who could pose a threat standing up against BJ..but that's a long shot.
 
Gomi v. Florian = :D

I've got Kenny in that one.


Also, I think if Mir can take out Carwin, and impressive fashion, that he's earned the rubber match. And then Nog faces the winner.

also, FUCK Brock for his retarded redneck Republican views on Canadian health care.
 
Fifty said:
Well if Gomi magically turns into the old Gomi, they've got a fighter who could pose a threat standing up against BJ..but that's a long shot.

Naw, even Gomi at his best was a bit too wild in his boxing, I think. Penn's more crisp striking would still pick him apart.
 
mrbagdt said:
im still confused as to why they even signed gomi. i just dont see the upside? maybe they are paying better than japan right now?
Same reason they picked up Kang, Nakamura, Gono, etc I suppose. Just throw them in the mix and let them sink or swim.

Fifty said:
Well if Gomi magically turns into the old Gomi, they've got a fighter who could pose a threat standing up against BJ..but that's a long shot.
Well, anyone can have a puncher's chance and Gomi hits hard but BJ has a good chin, has never been knocked down, is faster and is a much more skilled striker than Gomi.
 
*Much* more skilled striker than (prime/motivated) Gomi? Based on what?

Feel like I'm in bizarro land where Gomi hasn't accomplished more in MMA striking than anyone else in the history of the lightweight division.
 
EviLore said:
*Much* more skilled striker than (prime/motivated) Gomi? Based on what?

Feel like I'm in bizarro land where Gomi hasn't accomplished more in MMA striking than anyone else in the history of the lightweight division.

Who are you responding to?

I mean, c'mon now, I've been watching Gomi as long as you have. And I've been more critical of Penn than most.

My opinion is that BJ's boxing is far more crisp than Gomi's.

It seems you disagree. That's fine. But I stand by my opinion of their respective striking skills.

Now, I will not deny that Gomi's run in Pride was perhaps the greatest run in MMA's lightweight division to this point in time. His punching power, plus wrestling defence, plus his chin was enough to beat everyone the other side of the Pacific for 3+years.

But BJ beat Gomi before that run, and would run through him again at this point in time.

I have criticized Penn's LW performance, but I believe the limiting factor has been his own preparation and motivation. He's number 1, and Gomi is barely top 10 at this point, whatever his position was 3 years ago.
 
i have never followed gomi until the pride event in the US. prior to that i just figured he was the best 155'er in Japan and apparently he was a big deal. Then I was able to start watching his fights when he started with his sengoku thing and if there was anything special about him it was lost on me. if there is some aspect of his game that is special and superior to his peers, i guess i am not seeing it.
 
Boogie said:
Who are you responding to?

Asbel. And yes, obviously Gomi lost to BJ brutally 7 years ago. And Gomi would lose to BJ now. But I think prime Gomi beats anyone at lightweight standing, since, you know, Gomi beat several of the best strikers at lightweight by standing with them. That's not to say that Gomi at his peak in the Pride days necessarily beats BJ, either, it just means that I think he'd have the edge standing. Gomi obviously never addressed the BJJ weakness and BJ would probably fuck him up on the ground at any point in either of their careers if all else failed.

Gomi fully transitioned to a standup focus after losing to BJ. He was wrestling/gnp focused in Shooto iirc, a combination of his "combat wrestling" background and heavy hands, and had a terrible finishing percentage (seven of his ten fights prior to BJ were decisions, six consecutive). There's no way that Gomi was in his prime for the BJ fight. Prime Gomi = wrecking ball MMA-boxer Pride FC Gomi.
 
BJ has great striking, he's an excellent counter puncher. Stylistically it would be a great match with Gomi's agressive combos. It would definitely not be a blowout for one side or the other, pure standup wise. That said, I believe BJ could go for the easy win and just take him down after he tires, of course. But lately he seems to be content to stand with his last few opponents since he outmatches them there.
 
EviLore said:
*Much* more skilled striker than (prime/motivated) Gomi? Based on what?

Feel like I'm in bizarro land where Gomi hasn't accomplished more in MMA striking than anyone else in the history of the lightweight division.
Alright, I'll take that back as an exaggeration. Rewatched gomi/pulver and gomi wasn't as wild as I remember and definitely more motivated. But also looking back at Gomi's record, Pulzer and Alzeredo are the only 2 great strikers I see from that period that Gomi beat.

I still think that Penn has the better stand up. Even prime Gomi takes too many shots to the chin and throws too many hooks over jabs. Penn has better movement, takes less punches and picks his shots.
 
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Machida vs Shogun II now set for May 8th (at UFC 113 in Montreal) to avoid Mayweather/Mosley.

Shogun said:
"I hadn’t heard anything about it before. Truth is that I signed the contract for May 1st and didn’t know of the possibility of it being on the 8th. The fight is still far off. For now I’ll just keep training, but when it gets closer to the date I’ll start working harder."

“There’s always anticipation, especially since Lyoto is a top guy. But it’s all about training a lot to keep calm.”

Shogun's take on the Anderson/Vitor fight:

Shogun said:
“The fight between Anderson and Belfort will be between two experienced guys who are good strikers. They know each other well, because they’ve trained together. I think Anderson is more favored, but there’s no telling who will win. It will be a great fight.




Can't. Fuckin'. Wait.

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