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Mixed Martial Arts - the Official Discussion & General Info
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Boogie said:
No doubt. I don't think Pride realizes how much smarter the average Japanese fan is than an American fan. The Japanese can respect, appreciate and differentiate between pro-wrestling and MMA, while most American fans are going to be confused as **** over this partnership. This could be a bad move.
First matchup has been announced for Pride's New Year's Eve show.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=2975&zoneid=2
Fedor vs. Hunt.
Fedor by sub, round one.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=2975&zoneid=2
Fedor vs. Hunt.
Fedor by sub, round one.
Guys, according to the latest Wrestling Observer, DSE is looking to sell Pride!
"According to several different sources in both Japan and the United States, Dream Stage Entertainment has talked with various groups about selling the Pride Fighting Championships. Most of the prospective buyers are outside the country. Among them are a group from South Korea, as well as several different U.S. groups. It is believed WWE was approached and it is known UFC has been approached.... "
"According to several different sources in both Japan and the United States, Dream Stage Entertainment has talked with various groups about selling the Pride Fighting Championships. Most of the prospective buyers are outside the country. Among them are a group from South Korea, as well as several different U.S. groups. It is believed WWE was approached and it is known UFC has been approached.... "
Ned Flanders
Banned
Boogie have you heard about Fedor signing for a fight with Bodog Fight?
Ned Flanders said:
Yes, I've heard that as well. Apparently Fedor has a clause in his contract allowing him to fight for orgs other than Pride as long as its in Russia. Of course, there's other talk that Fedor only wants to sign one-fight deals from now on, perhaps another sign of Pride's troubles?
The bodog fight is supposed to happen in March. I've heard Jeff Monson floated as a possible opponent.
Ned Flanders
Banned
I heard Monson's already been locked up. If nothing else, Bodog seems to be bringning some serious greenbacks to the table, and I'm liking a lot of the talent they've acquired. It's a completely shitty name for an organization though.
Also what is this mess about DSE selling Pride? F*cking stupid mafioso bullshit had to go and f*ck up the greatest organization in the history of MMA...so sad..
Also what is this mess about DSE selling Pride? F*cking stupid mafioso bullshit had to go and f*ck up the greatest organization in the history of MMA...so sad..
Ned Flanders
Banned
SlackMage said:
More like Akuma. Show up and destroy the best, then vanish..
Is there anymore info on this? CroCop to the UFC would make me very happy. Not because of any UCF-Pride preference, but finally Silvia will be put in his rightful place, some backwards, backyard MMA league. I'd feel bad for Vera, who is a genuinely talented fighter, but at least he could cut weight and get out of the HW class. I can see Vera beating Silvia. Then CroCop destroys Silvia in Round One ala Silva/Leben and gets the title shot in the next PPV. Maybe Arlovski get another shot, because he'll certainly never get another while Silvia is champ even though he is IMO a better fighter. Not that he'd have any significant chance of victory, but it'd be nice to see him fight a fight that matters again.
It makes sense for Crocop too. He could beat Fedor, but he's always be at risk of a punishing loss. In the UFC, he'd be the (undisputed) man. Marketing oportunities would make him very wealthy and he could sit atop the division for years and years, easily becoming the greatest HW champ in UFC history. Here's hoping the trigger gets pulled.
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dem
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Big day for the UFC
They bought the WEC and have bought some fighter contracts from the WFA.
Rampage coming?????
Lindland?
Herring?
Can't wait to see what comes from this.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=3959
They bought the WEC and have bought some fighter contracts from the WFA.
Rampage coming?????
Lindland?
Herring?
Can't wait to see what comes from this.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=3959
sweet.
i'm just catching up on basically the last months worth of UFC news. that's pretty sweet that crocop is interested in signing with UFC, but it also kind of sucks cuz there's nobody that can beat him there.
maybe boogie can answer this one: how hard is it for fighters to be able to switch up the rules they fight by? how long would it take crocop to adjust to UFC rules? i'd hate to see him kicking the hell out of Silvia (someday maybe :lol), or anyone from another organization, just to get DQ'ed for a head-kick/stomp.
i'm just catching up on basically the last months worth of UFC news. that's pretty sweet that crocop is interested in signing with UFC, but it also kind of sucks cuz there's nobody that can beat him there.
maybe boogie can answer this one: how hard is it for fighters to be able to switch up the rules they fight by? how long would it take crocop to adjust to UFC rules? i'd hate to see him kicking the hell out of Silvia (someday maybe :lol), or anyone from another organization, just to get DQ'ed for a head-kick/stomp.
whytemyke said:
Difficult to say, and depends on the fighter. Some would likely get so caught up in the "moment" that they might forget the differences in rules. Sometimes even UFC-only fighters forget. In Melvin Guillard's last UFC fight, he wound up for a soccer kick on his opponent, but seemed to pull some of the force from it before it connected.
On the one hand, Mirko has occasionally throws an extra punch in on defeated opponenets, such as punches on Igor, and Dos Caras. On the other hand, someone once said that Crocop didn't actually like soccer kicks much because of the risk of injuring his foot. So I would lean towards thinking that Crocop wouldn't have any trouble adapting.
Also on that point, in Pride's US debut in October, they had to follow US rules, and there weren't any problems there. Fighters would definitely have to be conscious of it though.
dem
Member
The big thing is really knees to the head of a downed opponent. Stomps and shit hardly even get used in pride.. and when they are theyre rarely that effective. Though i guess when they land good theyre pretty deadly :lol
RAMMMPAGGGEEE
UFC ON A RAMPAGE, ACQUIRES WFA CONTRACTS, TRADEMARK ASSETS
By Loretta Hunt
The mixed martial arts world continues to grow yet streamline at the same time.
According to a press release circulated today by Zuffa LLC, owners of the UFC, the thriving Las Vegas-based promotion has absorbed all of the assets still connected with the failing World Fighting Alliance organization.
WFA Enterprises, LLC, a subsidiary of Zuffa, purchased select fighter contracts and the trademarks and other intellectual property of World Fighting Alliance, Inc., a corporation owned by Las Vegas attorneys, Ross Goodman and Louis Palazzo, read the release.
Following a three year hiatus, the WFA had returned to Los Angeles in July with its King of the Streets event, but had since postponed a follow-up date scheduled for the Aladdin Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas.
As announced by sherdog.com last week, former WFA CEO Jeremy Lappen had entered into legal proceedings against the WFA organization, citing a breach of contract for non-payment of services.
UFC president Dana White confirmed to The Fight Network this evening that light heavyweight standout Quinton Rampage Jackson (22-6) is among the talents this acquisition has facilitated. Jackson remains one of UFC Light Heavyweight Chuck Liddells few and most high profile losses, dating back to the semi-final round of PRIDEs Final Conflict 2003 tournament, where Jackson eliminated Liddell (19-3) via a TKO referee stoppage from strikes.
White did not reveal when fans can expect Rampage to make his Octagon debut.
Fighters Matt Lindland, Heath Herring, Ivan Salaverry, Jason Mayhem Miller, and Urijah Faber have all been established in the past as under either exclusive or non-exclusive WFA contracts. Confirmation on their new status is yet to come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovFomUvbxzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRyt9jytXzU
FINALLY
RAMMMPAGGGEEE
UFC ON A RAMPAGE, ACQUIRES WFA CONTRACTS, TRADEMARK ASSETS
By Loretta Hunt
The mixed martial arts world continues to grow yet streamline at the same time.
According to a press release circulated today by Zuffa LLC, owners of the UFC, the thriving Las Vegas-based promotion has absorbed all of the assets still connected with the failing World Fighting Alliance organization.
WFA Enterprises, LLC, a subsidiary of Zuffa, purchased select fighter contracts and the trademarks and other intellectual property of World Fighting Alliance, Inc., a corporation owned by Las Vegas attorneys, Ross Goodman and Louis Palazzo, read the release.
Following a three year hiatus, the WFA had returned to Los Angeles in July with its King of the Streets event, but had since postponed a follow-up date scheduled for the Aladdin Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas.
As announced by sherdog.com last week, former WFA CEO Jeremy Lappen had entered into legal proceedings against the WFA organization, citing a breach of contract for non-payment of services.
UFC president Dana White confirmed to The Fight Network this evening that light heavyweight standout Quinton Rampage Jackson (22-6) is among the talents this acquisition has facilitated. Jackson remains one of UFC Light Heavyweight Chuck Liddells few and most high profile losses, dating back to the semi-final round of PRIDEs Final Conflict 2003 tournament, where Jackson eliminated Liddell (19-3) via a TKO referee stoppage from strikes.
White did not reveal when fans can expect Rampage to make his Octagon debut.
Fighters Matt Lindland, Heath Herring, Ivan Salaverry, Jason Mayhem Miller, and Urijah Faber have all been established in the past as under either exclusive or non-exclusive WFA contracts. Confirmation on their new status is yet to come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovFomUvbxzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRyt9jytXzU
FINALLY
Mirko is NOT fighting on Pride's New Year's card. Says on his official site that he still can't kick like he wants to.
But it also says this:
"It was confirmed today that Mirko won't be fighting at PRIDE's NYE event.
"I still can't kick like I want to. It's the best that we give more time to this injury to heal. I want to be in perfect shape for my next fights."
But there's one far more important question lately - in which promotion will Mirko fight in the future? The big decision was made and the official statement will follow soon. "
But it also says this:
"It was confirmed today that Mirko won't be fighting at PRIDE's NYE event.
"I still can't kick like I want to. It's the best that we give more time to this injury to heal. I want to be in perfect shape for my next fights."
But there's one far more important question lately - in which promotion will Mirko fight in the future? The big decision was made and the official statement will follow soon. "
I'm really starting to think that the UFC has nabbed Crocop.
Former Pride and K-1 fighter Tom Erikson has posted on Gary Gooridge's forum, as well as the underground, saying:
"Nothing is for sure until they step in the ring as far as I am concerned. I will say this, that I have taken several calls concerning someone I know very well possibly being Cro Cop's first oppenant in February in the UFC. Will this happen I do not know but I truly believe it is being discussed. You will know more when I know more. "
And since on the weekend, crocop's website said crocop will announce what org he will fight for "very soon", well, what's very soon? Tonight's UFC Fight Night on Spike of course. Can we expect an announcement tonight? I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.
Former Pride and K-1 fighter Tom Erikson has posted on Gary Gooridge's forum, as well as the underground, saying:
"Nothing is for sure until they step in the ring as far as I am concerned. I will say this, that I have taken several calls concerning someone I know very well possibly being Cro Cop's first oppenant in February in the UFC. Will this happen I do not know but I truly believe it is being discussed. You will know more when I know more. "
And since on the weekend, crocop's website said crocop will announce what org he will fight for "very soon", well, what's very soon? Tonight's UFC Fight Night on Spike of course. Can we expect an announcement tonight? I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.
So who is everyone picking tonight?
I am going with-
Diego
Karo
Kos
Shonie
I kinda have a filling Shonie might lose though. I know nothing about his opponent, but just that the line is close even though Shonie is a much bigger name gives me a bad feeling. Odds are too bad on the other 3 to put money down.
I am going with-
Diego
Karo
Kos
Shonie
I kinda have a filling Shonie might lose though. I know nothing about his opponent, but just that the line is close even though Shonie is a much bigger name gives me a bad feeling. Odds are too bad on the other 3 to put money down.
Diego over Riggs
Karo over Fickett
And of course I'm rooting for my Canadian boy Joslin. He's got the skills, but it will be a tough match. I cannot imagine Kosheck beating Jeff standing, and Jeff is a BJJ blackbelt, so he should be able to nullify Kos' ground well enough, but I'm worried about whether he can stop the takedown.
Basically, if Kos wins, I see it being a boring blanket match, but if Joslin pulls it out, it will be in exciting fashion.
Probably Shonie over Davis, too.
Karo over Fickett
And of course I'm rooting for my Canadian boy Joslin. He's got the skills, but it will be a tough match. I cannot imagine Kosheck beating Jeff standing, and Jeff is a BJJ blackbelt, so he should be able to nullify Kos' ground well enough, but I'm worried about whether he can stop the takedown.
Basically, if Kos wins, I see it being a boring blanket match, but if Joslin pulls it out, it will be in exciting fashion.
Probably Shonie over Davis, too.
dem said:Riggs>Diego
Joslin>Koscheck
Karo>fickett
who cares about the rest of the card
Im more hoping that Riggs beats Diego and Joslin beats Kos than thinking it will happen.
Until I read that last line I thought either you were crazy or just a big "pull for the underdog" type guy. Of course anything can happen in any given fight. But its tough to see the perenially disappointing Riggs beating Diego. I cant stand Koscheck, but he seems to be improving rapidly, and worse case, like you said, he will just lay and pray to a decision.
According to Sherdog, Cro Cop chose the UFC! A little of the article-
Reigning PRIDE Open-Weight Grand Prix champion Mirko Filipovic (Pictures) has apparently decided to bolster the ranks of the UFC heavyweight division, a source inside the Croatian's camp informed Sherdog.com Wednesday.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6352
It's time for a new UFC HW champ, Sylvia's time is now coming to a rapid end via LHK.
Reigning PRIDE Open-Weight Grand Prix champion Mirko Filipovic (Pictures) has apparently decided to bolster the ranks of the UFC heavyweight division, a source inside the Croatian's camp informed Sherdog.com Wednesday.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6352
It's time for a new UFC HW champ, Sylvia's time is now coming to a rapid end via LHK.
CC is gonna wipe the UFC clean :lolBSsBrolly said:According to Sherdog, Cro Cop chose the UFC! A little of the article-
Reigning PRIDE Open-Weight Grand Prix champion Mirko Filipovic (Pictures) has apparently decided to bolster the ranks of the UFC heavyweight division, a source inside the Croatian's camp informed Sherdog.com Wednesday.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=6352
It's time for a new UFC HW champ, Sylvia's time is now coming to a rapid end via LHK.
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