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Bishman said:
Melvin is going to KTFO Joe Stevenson. Oh man!

I thought Melvin and Joe are a part of team punishment.

No, Joe trains at Cobra Kai under Marc Laimon.

And Stevenson will take Melvin down and sub him.

That UFN looks really like a really good card, too. Good to see Joslin get another chance.
 
MMAweekly is now listing Gabriel Gonzaga as Cro Cops next opponent. Someone on another forum said it was originally supposed to be Chieck Kongo but be wanted too much money.

Mirko Cro Cop (#2 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
-Michael Bisping vs. Elvis Sinosic
-Alessio Sakara vs. Victor Valima
 
Woo, Bisping.

Oh, and another guy for Cro Cop to tear down.

Should be interesting (relatively, of course) to see a heavy take-down focus by GG.

And, I finally caught the re-airing of the Showtime MMA thing, and Gina was hot as expected, but the ****ing thing didn't finish recording the Gracie SHamrock bout. Booo, I wanna see knees to the skull. =\
 
They still haven't cut Frank Mir loose? I seriously hope he can turn himself around, but every fight since his comeback has been extremely pathetic.
 
Bisping vs. Elvis? Elvis is a good guy, but he's got a losing record and doesn't really deserve to be in the UFC. I guess they reallllly don't want Bisping to lose in front of a hometown crowd.

I like Crocop getting matched up with Gonzaga. Gonzaga is a legit contender in the UFC heavyweight division, unlike Kongo. Although with Kongo, we would have been guaranteed a nice standup war.

And I don't mind them giving Mir more fights as long as they keep feeding him to lower level guys, and it doesn't take up PPV-space from better fights. So sticking him on a UFN seems fine to me.
 
Props to Gonzaga for taking this fight when others are running away from Crocop.

I like Mir and I want to keep liking him but every dissappointing effort back into the cage makes that harder to do. I'm interested to see if Hardonk's standup is as good as some say it is though.

http://68.ufc.com/ is up. I watched the Couture interviews. He's gonna go for subs. Haha. If Randy can get some gnp off (which Monson failed at), the sub could happen.
 
Asbel said:
http://68.ufc.com/ is up. I watched the Couture interviews. He's gonna go for subs. Haha. If Randy can get some gnp off (which Monson failed at), the sub could happen.


Well the fact that Randy is about 5 inches taller than Monson should help a bit. Fatboys torso was just too freakin long for Monson to do any damage once he finally got him down.
 
Really wasnt expecting Swick to get the next shot anyway since he has fight coming up in April with Okami.

I didnt realize Marquardt was such a contender. It would have been nice to have his last fight on the main card being thats the case.
 
Updated card for the show Boogie should have gotten to see live according to MMAweekly. :D

UFC 69: APRIL 7, 2007 IN HOUSTON, TEXAS (Toyota Center)

Main Card Bouts (subject to change):
-Georges St. Pierre (#1 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Matt Serra
-Diego Sanchez (#4 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Josh Koscheck (#10 Welterweight in the World)*
-Mike Swick vs. Yushin Okami
-Kendall Grove vs. Alan Belcher
-Roger Huerta vs. TBA

Preliminary Bouts (subject to change):
-Thales Leites vs. Pete Sell
-Luke Cummo vs. Josh Haynes
-Pete Spratt vs. Marcus Davis
-Heath Herring vs. Brad Imes

:lol Herring getting dropped to the prelims faster than.......something that gets dropped really fast.
 
Theres a lot of rumours lately that Arlovski will be fighting WERDUM at UFC 70.

If so, thats another nice pickup for the UFC HW division. :D
 
WOW
Nice card
Werduuuuummm
Forrest vs Machida!

Wasnt Tito supposed to be on UFC 70 too? I know Dana wanted to do Tito/Forrest 2.. but thank god they didnt do that. Thats way too soon.. and both are coming off losses.
 
UFC 70 card is stacked!

Oh man. Dana White signing Werdum is big. They are building up their heavy weight division slowly but surely.
 
I don't even think you can say they're building it up "slowly" anymore. At this exact point in time, the UFC heavyweight division looks damn good.

Crocop
Sylvia
Arlovski
Werdum
Gonzaga
Couture
Vera (though we might have to scratch him from this list shortly)
Herring (if he can turn around from the stinker loss to O'Brian)
Assuerio Silva

That stacks up quite well with Pride's heavyweight division:

Fedor
Nog
Alex
Barnett
Kharitonov
Hunt
Yoshida

Pride still has #1, #3, and possibly the #4 heavyweights, but the UFC might actually have more depth to their heavyweight division at this point 0_o
 
Dana actually living up to his words. Werdum was a top 5 Pride heavy so this makes for an interesting contenders matchup with Arlovski.

Poor Forrest though, cuz if he stands with Machida he could get KO'd again.
 
I finally got to see Machida vs Hoger. Machida pretty much dominated from the word go he just couldnt put Sam away. Forrest better bring his A game. Should be a great fight.
 
What do you guys think about the Nick Diaz vs Takanori Gomi fight in tomorrow's Pride FC PPV? Also, do any of you know if Gomi has a win over BJ Penn? Thanks in advance.
 
Uno Ill Nino said:
What do you guys think about the Nick Diaz vs Takanori Gomi fight in tomorrow's Pride FC PPV? Also, do any of you know if Gomi has a win over BJ Penn? Thanks in advance.
50/50 on Diaz vs Gomi. I would be suprised if either dominated the other.
 
My $$ is on Nick Diaz. Plus it will be interesting to see because Diaz always came up short with the competition in the UFC. So if he beats Gomi, it will tell us the difference in competiton between the two organzations.
 
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UFN 9!

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UFC 68! Captain America is back to get his belt back!!

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UFC 69! GSP! GSP!

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UFC 70!!! Bad ass poster. UFC going international is $$. And I read that in Europe they are more MMA "educated" hence why the UFC stacked the card.

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Boogie said:
I don't even think you can say they're building it up "slowly" anymore. At this exact point in time, the UFC heavyweight division looks damn good.

Crocop
Sylvia
Arlovski
Werdum
Gonzaga
Couture
Vera (though we might have to scratch him from this list shortly)
Herring (if he can turn around from the stinker loss to O'Brian)
Assuerio Silva

That stacks up quite well with Pride's heavyweight division:

Fedor
Nog
Alex
Barnett
Kharitonov
Hunt
Yoshida

Pride still has #1, #3, and possibly the #4 heavyweights, but the UFC might actually have more depth to their heavyweight division at this point 0_o

If UFC can sign Lil / Big Nog they are set. Then they have developing talent growing too.



Chuck wants to fight Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, Wanderlei Silva and Fedor Emelianenko before he retires.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1a9sz_chuck-liddel-wants-to-fight

I see Chuck beat Rampage, maybe Cro Cop, beating Silva easy (Cro Cop showed the blue print how to beat Silva), and Fedor being the hardest test of them all.
 
Slo said:
Does Fedor fight tommorrow?
Nope.

This is the card:

Wanderlei Silva vs. Dan Henderson
Takanori Gomi vs. Nick Diaz
Hayato Sakurai vs. Mac Danzig
Kazuo Misaki vs. Frank Trigg
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjo
Joachim Hansen vs. Jason Ireland
Mauricio Rua vs. Alistair Overeem
Sergei Kharitonov vs. Michael Russow
 
From Meltzer

UFC did about 5,225,000 domestic buys on ten shows, a North American average per event of 522,500, or two and a halftimes WWE's average, with a total gross of $222,766,000. UFC averaged less than 140,000 buys per show in 2005, so the per show increase ended up at 275%. In total, they were up probably 700% or more over the course of the year, an unprecedented historical climb.

Boxing's all time record year was $200 million in 1999. WWF in the peak of Austin/Rock era averaged similar number of buys, but at a lower price tag, and never hit the $200 million mark for a year. UFC grossed more money this past year than any promotion ever has.
 
dem said:
From Meltzer

UFC did about 5,225,000 domestic buys on ten shows, a North American average per event of 522,500, or two and a halftimes WWE's average, with a total gross of $222,766,000. UFC averaged less than 140,000 buys per show in 2005, so the per show increase ended up at 275%. In total, they were up probably 700% or more over the course of the year, an unprecedented historical climb.

Boxing's all time record year was $200 million in 1999. WWF in the peak of Austin/Rock era averaged similar number of buys, but at a lower price tag, and never hit the $200 million mark for a year. UFC grossed more money this past year than any promotion ever has.

Holy crap, and with the acquisition of new talent/quality fighters, it should only get more popular.
 
Bishman said:
I see Chuck beat Rampage, maybe Cro Cop, beating Silva easy (Cro Cop showed the blue print how to beat Silva), and Fedor being the hardest test of them all.

Interesting audio from Chuck. How exactly do you see Chuck beating Crocop? Other than an outside puncher's chance, there just is no way.

Sure, Crocop showed the blueprint of beating Silva, but you're dreaming if you think Chuck can replicate Crocop's performance, not to mention the LHK. Chuck might beat Silva, but it won't be easy.

Fedor would absolutely destroy Chuck. It would be ugly, and likely will never happen because Chuck would first have to beat Rampage (which could happen, but you did see Rampage absolutely dismantle him a few years ago, didn't you?), and then Silva, which I wouldn't even have him as a favourite, and then Crocop, which would be as severe an execution as silva's.
 
I like Chuck but Cro Cop would be a horrible match up for him, just the worst possible scenario. A highly accurate counter striker with fundamentally sound boxing technique and straight punches like Mirko would eat Chuck's looping haymakers alive. It's funny he said Silva was a blueprint, he was right in more ways than one.
 
Schafer said:
I didn't catch the Pride event but it sounds like the Diaz/Gomi fight was a complete riot.

Go out of your way to watch it. Buy the replay, get the DVD, download the torrent, whatever. It is the best card, top to bottom, in a long time.
 
Sean Sherk disses Gomi on UG.

From: S Sherk
Date: 02/25/07 06:29 PM
Member Since: 01/01/2001
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For shutting that big mouth Gomi up! I still wish it was me that exposed him but congrats Bro!

Woot! Current Rank: 4/816 on Subfighter Fantasy pick.
 
if couture doesn't beat big stupid tim I might actually cry. Oh well, it would make the inevitable sylvia vs. crocop all the more spectacular, I guess.
 
briefcasemanx said:
if couture doesn't beat big stupid tim I might actually cry. Oh well, it would make the inevitable sylvia vs. crocop all the more spectacular, I guess.

Get the tissues ready :D

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briefcasemanx said:
if couture doesn't beat big stupid tim I might actually cry. Oh well, it would make the inevitable sylvia vs. crocop all the more spectacular, I guess.

Prepare for tears man, Couture doesn't stand a chance. Note I love Randy Couture, but this fight is tailor made for him to lose.
 
Schafer said:
Prepare for tears man, Couture doesn't stand a chance. Note I love Randy Couture, but this fight is tailor made for him to lose.

I dunno, considering Sylvia/Monson, I'd say Randy does have a chance. Better Wrestling, better ground and pound, better reach than Monson makes me think that Randy will at least make a fight of it.
 
Boogie said:
I dunno, considering Sylvia/Monson, I'd say Randy does have a chance. Better Wrestling, better ground and pound, better reach than Monson makes me think that Randy will at least make a fight of it.

Oh I have no doubt he'll make a fight out of it, but I do doubt his odds at winning. Fighting Sylvia is like fighting a 6'8" Chuck Liddel.
 
Schafer said:
Oh I have no doubt he'll make a fight out of it, but I do doubt his odds at winning. Fighting Sylvia is like fighting a 6'8" Chuck Liddel.

Not really. Sylvia doesn't have Chuck's wrestling credentials. Chuck is a grappler-killer: when he fights guys who want to take the fight to the ground, they always get knocked out.

When Sylvia fights guys who don't want to stand and trade with him, he's tentative, and then blames the boring decision on the fact that his opponent didn't want to fight him on the feet.

They may both be sprawl and brawlers, but that's really about where the similarity ends, I'd say.
 
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