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Mobius (Mevius) Final Fantasy's main guy given more clothing due to fan feedback
- Thread starter Nirolak
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I, for one, am shocked at the absence, shocked
Dice//
Banned
Depends. I guess I'm not as black and white with it. I think Cindy looks ridiculous because of its blatant sex appeal, but men are definitely sexualized different and the straps and revealing clothes on Mobius Man just look...bizarre. I definitely find it 'refreshing' that it IS a man being sexualized, but 'fighting fire with fire' isn't really a good strategy in most situations...
More than though, I'm curious WHY he's designed the way he's designed. Truly this is a sort of ground-breaking moment for FF-males to be the "show offs" (for lack of better words).
Bravely Default
I remember these caused some uproar. Frankly, on a fashion perspective, I thought the edits were 1,000x more tasteful.
Have you even read through the thread? There are loads of people who liked the original.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Eh, I'm looking at it from a fashion or aesthetic perspective, could care less about her breasts.
QuantumZebra
Member
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Same.
captainpat
Member
I thought they were just about it's about ethics in game journalism.
sensui-tomo
Member
Now i'm going to be presumptuous(please please correct me if i'm wrong) but wasn't there a study that more females game on mobile devices(just for that study ) so this could be a game meant to target those core gamers(and thus try to appeal to females or anyone who finds that design sexy)? I wont argue anything about Bravely default since "age of characters" is something i dont know (i've seen random numbers from 13 to 17 ) so I cant say anything, except edna(i think thats the main female) has wayyyy too many belts. And for a statement about beating fire with fire being bad or not a good way... at the least it makes the "Men are sexualized as much as women" excuse or counter-arguement a good workout lol.
I'd have preferred this. Just add customization. Don't remove it. Dumb outfits have their place.
Word. It's okay for female characters be half-naked, but OH NO THAT GUY IS SHOWING SOME RIBS.
lol
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
It seems like they either pre-empt appealing to a particular demographic and if people complain they react ro a particular demographic. Would be cool to just see a true artistic vision, but I suppose that's a lot to ask for when talking about a mainstream franchise.
They seem scared to death after what happened with Final Fantasy XIII.
To be fair, this is how most people remembered/seen Rydia.
When you compare them side-by-side, there are a number of revealing aspects of the render that are reflected in the sprite as well.
At least it looks that way to me, might be another Link's hair is pink situation.
Zeouterlimits
Member
If only
SolidSnakex
Member
It was one job (Onion Swordsman). They need to chill out with getting nervous just because not everything they make gets the reception they were hoping for. At some point you've just got to have confidence in what you designed. They need to understand that it's not possible to make everyone happy.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The design wasn't sexy, it was just ugly.
Well said. SE just needs to avoid the Internet probably.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
I wonder if it will even work out for them.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Ridiculous.
The over-sexualization of women in the video game spectrum seems widely accepted; however, when one sees male skin, it is automatically deemed too sexy for that audience and needs to be scaled back as a result to appease a few minor vocals.
I'm not liking Square Enix's stance. You can't make everyone happy.
The over-sexualization of women in the video game spectrum seems widely accepted; however, when one sees male skin, it is automatically deemed too sexy for that audience and needs to be scaled back as a result to appease a few minor vocals.
I'm not liking Square Enix's stance. You can't make everyone happy.
Pretty weird they are getting so scared of fan backlash. I don't really care about either outfits to be honest. I'm at the point where I think I'm getting too old for final fantasy. The main characters design are so ridiculous in 15 that it's completely turn me off from the game. Do people really think that's cool design? The mobius guy is also pretty terrible, maybe someone should tell them androgynous characters aren't so hip anymore.
dakkumauji
Member
Goodbye (male) side boob.
The outfit is still pretty ugly.
The outfit is still pretty ugly.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Did you see Bravely Default's changes? They do make changes even to female characters, if there is enough uproar about it.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Link doesn't work.
Plenty of people who like dudes thought it was ugly, I think it was hideous.
The designs of the main characters in FFXV aren't ridiculous so much as they're just boring and homogenous.
That was done only for the English localization though.
Banned site, my bad.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Ah what can you do. Better than naught.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Still not sexy.
ShinMaruku
Member
Knowing Japan, She'll be wearing pasties next.
Don't think it'll happen since Cidney isn't a main character.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I didn't particularly like the design either. It still doesn't change my stance nonetheless.
Zoe
Member
Still looks like shit. Remove everything above his waist and it's fine.
she's, like, a car mechanic though. why she even bothering with the googles at that point.
You're trying to make sense of something in a series that has rarely ever made sense.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Bravely Default
This was a localization change, and was probably more for the game rating than fans complaining. (I think, anyway, if I'm wrong here, correct me)
true, bad character design is a series tradition I suppose.
Dice//
Banned
If they've been doing that in the past, then I don't agree, I'm so happy the FF15 demo is ALLOWING feedback. :/
Just because they don't make sense doesn't mean that they're bad. These guys are getting Mega Flare casted on them by a Bahamut. There's no winning solution here for practicality.
They should have just shown off other female characters instead of giving people who don't follow the game a wrong impression.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Exactly, Square is at a point where they NEED feedback.
ZiZ
Member
The truth is Square wants to make as much money off their games as possible, and as long as straight males are the largest demographic for video games and the ones whom are willing to spend the most on games (and make up the majority of workers in the game industry) we will see companies catering to their tastes. which sucks because that puts off a lot of the other demographics from getting into games altogether.
like many others said, I'm not against him showing skin. as much as the costume looking terrible. Even Vaan was better.
and since people are complaining about Cidney's cloths in FFXV, and square seems to be listening. I wish Gladiolus would go back to his original design, with the shirt and without the tats. He looks like a douchebag now.
like many others said, I'm not against him showing skin. as much as the costume looking terrible. Even Vaan was better.
and since people are complaining about Cidney's cloths in FFXV, and square seems to be listening. I wish Gladiolus would go back to his original design, with the shirt and without the tats. He looks like a douchebag now.
Nobody's using the bullshit "oh noez censorship ruining the artist's creative expression!" argument though. They're actually honestly discussing this as a change made by the company (thank God).
Well speak of the devil.