jediyoshi
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Controlling a touch screen game with your elbows would be the same idea as well,
one of these things is not like the other.
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Modern Combat 5 E3 trailer (iOS/Android): Best looking mobile game yet?
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Controlling a touch screen game with your elbows would be the same idea as well,
one of these things is not like the other.
chertipros
Member
What is so special about these games? They look uninspired and generic
They're on your iPad.
It's a shame but its terribly true.
I really tried to give touchscreen controls a chance over the last 3-4 years but it failed. They're worthless for certain games and they should just stop trying.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
TBF he's not entirely wrong, if it wasn't simply emulating a controller touching the screen to shoot would be more comparable to using a mouse than a controller. The obvious issue is it does analogue movement pretty badly much worse than a controller.
out0v0rder
Member
Touchscreen fps sucks, cant shoot and look/move at the same time.
legacyzero
Banned
Have you ever played an FPS with a touchscreen? It's not trolling when pretty much EVERYONE agrees.
They are visually impressive and in this case Modern Combat is the closest thing to a decent call of duty game on a mobile platform (Black Ops Vita is crap so don't even try to bring that up)
Basically almost all Gameloft games are "good enough" clones of games that aren't on iOS/Android otherwise. CoD (Modern Combat), Halo (NOVA), Diablo (Dungeon Hunter), WoW (Order and Chaos Online), LoL (Heroes of Order and Chaos), Final Fantasy (Eternal Legacy), etc.
The millions of people who buy these games don't agree.
chertipros
Member
Holy shit at those names. But I understand now. Essentially, nothing but mobility
They're cheap phone games. People buy them in huge part because they're cheap and on a device they own. This hardly means controls are optimal.
That does not follow logically.
Console shooters don't have optimal controls either. But they are playable.
Same thing with touch screen shooters.
The people that buy these games aren't financially voting which games/hardware have better controls.
It's cute that there's apparently two tiers of control for FPS games, optimal and not optimal.
Physical controls are automatically better than touch controls trying to imitate physical controls.
Mobility and the fact that they're all relatively cheap, $10 or less. When the average consumer sees a clone of a $60 game they own for $8 and they can play it on their phone or tablet, it's cheap enough that people will buy regardless of quality.
The millions of people who don't buy these games don't agree with you either.
Same logic applies.
Apparently they aren't because they both try do the same thing. Also, a FPS only controls well if it allows for mouse and keyboard control, using a controller is just as inferior as touch controls because millions of people buy iOS/Android games.
IsntChrisL
Member
Bleh, FPS' on tablets/phones control like balls.
Zabant
Member
Please use italics if you're going to be sarcastic.
Microsoft are Totally looking out for the consumer.
Like that.
legacyzero
Banned
If I saw a game that was that cheap for a mobile device, I would probably have bought it too, unless I had previously learned my lesson, in which case I had. Touchscreen simply isn't a practical way to play an FPS.
Give me fully fledged starcraft 2 clone (the first one they didnt wasnt good enough)
Also, new asphalt please.
problem is gameloft games feel empty, soulless and without any sort of charm. i still enjoy some of the games, just they lack something ):
amazing spiderman was really fun on ipad.
Also, new asphalt please.
problem is gameloft games feel empty, soulless and without any sort of charm. i still enjoy some of the games, just they lack something ):
amazing spiderman was really fun on ipad.
Touch screen controls allow for more accurate aiming than a controller could ever dream of if the player is skilled enough. There are obvious problems due to the lack of buttons, but it's workable.
Two seconds of watching this guy move his view around the game should confirm to anyone that isn't jaded that these small rapid movements aren't even possible on a gamepad, and it isn't even close really.
Notice how he can snap his view to the opposite direction in an instant, more like a mouse than a joystick in regard to that -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K3gtucesQ
Two seconds of watching this guy move his view around the game should confirm to anyone that isn't jaded that these small rapid movements aren't even possible on a gamepad, and it isn't even close really.
Notice how he can snap his view to the opposite direction in an instant, more like a mouse than a joystick in regard to that -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K3gtucesQ
There's a world of difference between "what's possible" and "what works".
Yes, I'm sure someone can find a video from billions on Youtube of a guy demoing a game somewhat well. I could probably also find you a video of a dog climbing a palm tree if I really so wanted. That doesn't make it suddenly normal for everyone.
Mouse & keyboard IS the most responsive, but the true mass market acceptance of a console controllered FPS (Goldeneye) took the perfect-storm talents of RARE in its golden age with design guidance from Nintendo Japan, the world's most experinced consumer console group.
In this era of cheap console clones and gold rushing F2P poison we've yet to see that level of creativity / widespread cultural acceptance for a touch scene FPS, regardless of the massive installed base with hundreds of millions of mobile users. Frankly I doubt we'll ever see it.
Yes, I'm sure someone can find a video from billions on Youtube of a guy demoing a game somewhat well. I could probably also find you a video of a dog climbing a palm tree if I really so wanted. That doesn't make it suddenly normal for everyone.
Mouse & keyboard IS the most responsive, but the true mass market acceptance of a console controllered FPS (Goldeneye) took the perfect-storm talents of RARE in its golden age with design guidance from Nintendo Japan, the world's most experinced consumer console group.
In this era of cheap console clones and gold rushing F2P poison we've yet to see that level of creativity / widespread cultural acceptance for a touch scene FPS, regardless of the massive installed base with hundreds of millions of mobile users. Frankly I doubt we'll ever see it.
MC 3 and 4 are two of my favourite iOS games and two of the best portable shooters ever, I think people were sick of me pimping the last two so hard.
Can't wait for 5, it looks fucking amazing, really wish they'd do Vita ports though, how hard could it be?!
Pity there's so many unco gamers out there who still haven't adapted to touch controls yet, I'm as good controlling MC on iOS as I am controlled MW on consoles.
Can't wait for 5, it looks fucking amazing, really wish they'd do Vita ports though, how hard could it be?!
Pity there's so many unco gamers out there who still haven't adapted to touch controls yet, I'm as good controlling MC on iOS as I am controlled MW on consoles.
You could find me a video of a dog climbing a palm tree, but you couldn't find me one of a console joystick performing the rapid movements seen in that video.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
But do they have dogs?
ss_lemonade
Member
I used to think the same with nova 3 and the previous modern combat game but after seeing how a lot of the effects, animations etc actually look like (and performance especially in android devices), I'll never rate a gameloft game as best looking mobile game ever, again.
I actually want to see this dog climbing a palm tree video...
BeekleMatter
Member
Wow CoD: Ghosts looks great!
VanquishUK
Member
Will this game support a bluetooth controller?
Nice. Though I'm not sure this really counts as climbing a palm tree. Definitely swinging tho.
nephilimdj
Member
Funny just download 11GB marvel heroes pc, to see a 7 dollar iphone game with better graphics using same engine
crazy world
handheld fps are often meh, both 3ds and vita have pretty poor sticks for 3d movement. Touchscreen isnt that worse.
crazy world
handheld fps are often meh, both 3ds and vita have pretty poor sticks for 3d movement. Touchscreen isnt that worse.
TaroYamada
Member
Frankly it's not blatant trolling, it's the truth. Your position is the equivalent of console folks who try to say gamepads are better for FPS than mouse and keyboard, it's simply not true.
Depends if you like your shooters twitchy. I like mine like Goldeneye was: a masterfully accurate, original and innovative masterpiece that an entire college generation still talk fondly about.
Not holding my breath for a touch screen FPS that has anything like the impact, unless either someone comes up with a genius shooter control system that thousands have already tried and failed with, or mobile devices somehow figure out real location feedback.
STALKER wouldn't even play well on a controller tbh...
The difference is that I don't go into console shooter threads and derail the discussion by shitting on an entire platform.
TaroYamada
Member
I see most of the people here saying the controls aren't well suited to FPS, I don't think touch controls are well suited to most genres but I think many would acknowledge they would work fine for most puzzle games and point and click adventure games for example. I fail to see the comments that are "shitting on an entire platform" in this thread.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Any dogs?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
But controllers aren't unplayable, touch screens are an issue for most players in FPS and similar genres. You could go to Wii threads and complain about the implementation of the motion controls in diferent games, in some games those were awful enough that warrented said posts even if some people find them fine.
That's because console shooters are established. Touchscreen mobile shooters are not. Not sure how more clear it can be. Also strawman strawman whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when Blearth comes for you!