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[njean777]

console port on Steam

vs

next generation pc title

the steam fanboys will pick the port, cuz you know its on steam /rolls eyes

 

[Snuggles]

Seeing as that they almost always hit number 1 on the top sellers on Steam the week they release, I highly doubt it. Activision has found something that clearly works on PC.

Ah, so players still won't be able to make custom maps like they could with MW1? I see. It's still better than matchmaking.

 

[Stallion Free]

And about facts, do You have better ones? Because from a stats [ingame statistics etc] we know MW 2 sold quite bad on PC and Black Ops sold just slightly better.

The Red Orchestra devs said that the con-current play counts can usually be multiplied by about 10 to get a rough estimate of how many unique players there are in a game daily. That would mean that MW2 still averages 300k and Blops averages 200k.

 

[kuYuri]

All the positive feedback for BF3 has them running scared. No competition from BF3, no dedicated servers, as simple as that.

What are you talking about?

 

[goodfella]

Smart, smart move. Makes me want the game more than bf3.

Almost.

 

[Makoto]

the steam fanboys will pick the port, cuz you know its on steam /rolls eyes

Yup. By some of the responses in this thread, it seems some people think Activision is trying to do PC gamers a favor by putting Call of Duty on Steam. Head-ups people, Activision just needed a distributor to sell you $15 map packs, they're not in it to make you feel good.

 

[Palette Swap]

Its like the universe is balancing itself out: When EA increases in dickery, Activision decreases in dickery.

I'm this close to writing a wikipedia entry about the Conservation of dickery in the universe.

 

[mxgt]

the steam fanboys will pick the port, cuz you know its on steam /rolls eyes

I usually defend steam but in this case it's pretty sad indeed.

Overpriced game that's steamworks and has dedicated servers!? take my money activision!

 

[Emitan]

Isn't BF3 the same price?

 

[Nostalgia~4ever]

How is BF3 'next generation'?

this is a joke right? It has to be. How many games have the scale of BF3 (caspian border) with 64 players intense action and yet the multiplayer looks better then most other games single player.

 

[mxgt]

Isn't BF3 the same price?

Yes, and that pisses me off as well

 

[Momo]

How is this bizarre? All of these things could have been seen coming a mile away. Activision is in love with Steam for the COD franchise. They also realized they make money by allowing dedicated servers opposed to running matchmaking services themselves and they don't lose any DLC money in the process.

It is bizarre that I am sitting here thinking how Activision has done a better job of making this package attractive to PC gamers than EA/Dice. Who would have said that two short years ago?

*Note I still think Battlefield is the superior game, the decisions surrounding it has just been piss poor compared to the inferior MW3.

Its like the universe is balancing itself out: When EA increases in dickery, Activision decreases in dickery.

The spice must flow.

 

[Derrick01]

Isn't BF3 the same price?

Yes, another thing that EA copied. At least copy good shit >.<

 

[Anton Sugar]

I think the worst thing to come out of this are the tools who will pick BF3 or MW3 (one over the other, that is) based on how it's being distributed. A game being on Origin vs. Steam has no relevance when it comes to the actual quality of the game.

 

[LiK]

Yes, another thing that EA copied. At least copy good shit >.<

lol

 

[Nirolak]

Didn't Black Ops do this already?

 

[mxgt]

It is bizarre that I am sitting here thinking how Activision has done a better job of making this package attractive to PC gamers than EA/Dice. Who would have said that two short years ago?

*Note I still think Battlefield is the superior game, the decisions surrounding it has just been piss poor compared to the inferior MW3.

How have they done that?

By removing dedicated servers for MW2 then adding them again? dedicated servers are standard for pc shooters and shouldn't be considered as making something attractive.

All they've done is put it on Steam like previous COD titles.

Besides, they have shown no PC footage as opposed to BF3 showing a lot, having PC as the lead and improving graphical prowess, scale and gameplay.

I don't see how Activision has done a better job at all

 

[Makoto]

It is bizarre that I am sitting here thinking how Activision has done a better job of making this package attractive to PC gamers than EA/Dice. Who would have said that two short years ago?

How is this package that Activision is offering more attractive than what EA is offering?

 

[kuYuri]

Didn't Black Ops do this already?

Yes, but since this is GAF, most people don't care about CoD news, so everything old is new again.

 

[Momo]

I know what my PC dudebro shooter purchase will be this fall.

Holy shit lol

 

[Emitan]

Didn't Black Ops do this already?

But Treyarch made that so no one cares.

 

[TheExodu5]

I'll buy it if they don't botch the port. Black Ops was awful on PC, performance wise. It ran at about 1/4 the framerate of MW2. They never really fixed it, either.

 

[Erebus]

Eat this BF3!

 

[Deadbeat]

$106 US for us here in Aus.

Go eat a dick, Activision. Dedicated servers and Steamworks doesn't mean so much when I'm being fucked in the arse for being Australian.

Spider tax.

 

[angelfly]

Activision trying to stick it to E :lol

 

[Emitan]

Spider tax.

I am for that. Aussies, get rid of those damn giant spiders.

 

[mxgt]

Activision trying to stick it to E :lol

By doing the same thing they did with MW2 and Black Ops?

some of the posts ITT are really confusing

 

[Momo]

I don't see how Activision has done a better job at all

How many PC gamers do you know that care about steam + dedicated severs? Thats basically all my PC gaming friends talk about. The fact that it has always been there in CoD is irrelevant, Activision hasn't so much done a better job as EA has fucked up.

 

[Sethos]

Steamworks is great but dedicated servers is a requirement for a PC shooter, shouldn't be a "Oh nice feature".

 

[ShdwDrake]

The only reason I bought MW2 on PC was because I was randomly looking for a game to play and hey look MW2 is on here might as well.

I'll probably eventually buy it since its steamworks.

 

[Makoto]

How many PC gamers do you know that care about steam + dedicated severs?

None. They just want to know how much the game costs and if their desktops are capable of running it. In this case, they both cost $60.

 

[mxgt]

How many PC gamers do you know that care about steam + dedicated severs? Thats basically all my PC gaming friends talk about. The fact that it has always been there is irrelevant, Activision hasn't so much done a better hob as EA has fucked up.

The people that refuse to buy games that aren't on Steam are in the extreme minority. Steam is always nice, but it isn't necessary.

 

[Anton Sugar]

How many PC gamers do you know that care about steam + dedicated severs? Thats basically all my PC gaming friends talk about. The fact that it has always been there is irrelevant, Activision hasn't so much done a better hob as EA has fucked up.

BF3 has had dedi's announced for a while, and recently confirmed that consoles get dedicated servers AND a server browser.

For Steam, at first I agreed, as I love Steam and try to keep everything on there. However, now having seen how Battlelog works, using Steam with it would be difficult, if not completely unnecessary. You won't even have to use Origin to launch BF3.

 

[Einbroch]

I may be retarded, but what is a dedicated server? Will it be like TF2/CS with lobbies and stuff you join, or like MW2 on the consoles with matchmaking and friendslists?

Cause I hate the former.

 

[Tallshortman]

That's awesome. Burn EA.

heh, fucking children.

I'll be enjoying both games this year.

 

[Interfectum]

I don't see how Activision has done a better job at all

Activision hasn't done anything besides appease the PC fanbase (Steamworks). EA has the uphill battle of forcing people on a new user account, friends list and client download all to play BF3. Most fail to see the point of or care about Origin.

I will begrudgingly buy BF3 on PC because it looks awesome but I would love it if they just threw in Steamworks support for shits and grins.

 

[Exuro]

I may be retarded, but what is a dedicated server? Will it be like TF2/CS with lobbies and stuff you join, or like MW2 on the consoles with matchmaking and friendslists?

Cause I hate the former.

Both hopefully. Those that want random matches can use matchmaking to join an official dedicated server and those that want to join their community can do so with the server browser.

 

[mxgt]

I may be retarded, but what is a dedicated server? Will it be like TF2/CS with lobbies and stuff you join, or like MW2 on the consoles with matchmaking and friendslists?

Cause I hate the former.

You hate the better option?

That's weird.

But yes dedicated servers are a list of servers you can join or you can enter an ip manually.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

I may be retarded, but what is a dedicated server? Will it be like TF2/CS with lobbies and stuff you join, or like MW2 on the consoles with matchmaking and friendslists?

Cause I hate the former.

like TF2/CS with lobbies and stuff you join

 

[Anton Sugar]

Excellent title change.

 

[Einbroch]

Ugh. I mean that's great and everything for people who like that kind of stuff, but I hate using matchmaking and joining servers where 75% of the people clearly knows eachother and you're the odd man out, especially if you're pretty new to a game and aren't the best.

Guess I'll do my FPS online gaming on the consoles this winter. Shame, since I recently upgraded my PC.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Ugh. I mean that's great and everything for people who like that kind of stuff, but I hate using matchmaking and joining servers where 75% of the people clearly knows eachother and you're the odd man out, especially if you're pretty new to a game and aren't the best.

Guess I'll do my FPS online gaming on the consoles this winter. Shame, since I recently upgraded my PC.

I think you are seriously confused here.

 

[Interfectum]

Ugh. I mean that's great and everything for people who like that kind of stuff, but I hate using matchmaking and joining servers where 75% of the people clearly knows eachother and you're the odd man out, especially if you're pretty new to a game and aren't the best.

Guess I'll do my FPS online gaming on the consoles this winter. Shame, since I recently upgraded my PC.

You do realize that can happen on 360 a lot as well with people going into games as huge groups, right?

Plus, have you not played TF2 online?

 

[Sethos]

Ugh. I mean that's great and everything for people who like that kind of stuff, but I hate using matchmaking and joining servers where 75% of the people clearly knows eachother and you're the odd man out, especially if you're pretty new to a game and aren't the best.

Guess I'll do my FPS online gaming on the consoles this winter. Shame, since I recently upgraded my PC.

You seem very confused as to what a dedicated server.

 

[commedieu]

How many PC gamers do you know that care about steam + dedicated severs? Thats basically all my PC gaming friends talk about. The fact that it has always been there in CoD is irrelevant, Activision hasn't so much done a better job as EA has fucked up.

How many pc gamers think that mw6 and bf3 are the same game? Id imagine its an insignificant minority that are making the deciding factor on distribution methods.

Its a ridiculous thought process for me to imagine. Cod fans are buying it regardless of even a boycott. They were always on steam, no big shock there. Everyone factored that thought process in with the announcement of Origin.

People are acting like its a significant blow. Mw will sell well.

It's a sad and pahetic state of gaming if the only perceived difference between AAA titles is the shipping method folks. I mean really.

 

[Momo]

I'm going to carefully back out of this thread, find a nice comfortable jRPG thread and watch how this discussion develops. I'll leave this to the experts to discuss. FPSs are not the genre of games I discuss often, just thought it was curious how EA seemingly have alienated the people in my circles that are PC gamers

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Ha at the thread title update. This "rivalry" truly is this generation's Street Fighter vs. Mortal Kombat, Virtua Fighter vs. Tekken.

Spoiler

Play Deus Ex you clowns.

Virtually everyone on both sides is going to buy both of these games, with their infinitismally small feature discrepancies, anyway.

 

[Stallion Free]

You won't even have to use Origin to launch BF3.

Pretty sure Dice confirmed that Origin will have to be running, just like in the alpha.

 

[funkystudent]

all it needs now is some TF2 hats for pre ordering it and I think we can call it a day

 

[Anton Sugar]

Pretty sure Dice confirmed that Origin will have to be running, just like in the alpha.

I meant that in most instances, you're going to be launching the game directly from Battlelog as opposed to launching directly through a DD client. Origin will be running in the background, yes.