No, but Barroth is considered the first hard monster you face with the limited equipment you will have. Once you beat a Barroth, you've gotten past the "first wall".
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No, but Barroth is considered the first hard monster you face with the limited equipment you will have. Once you beat a Barroth, you've gotten past the "first wall".
In Tri he's the third 'large' monster you fight, but he's the first real challenge I'd say. 3U is going to shake things up a bit with the early monsters you fight because it's introducing the monsters from Portable3rd.
UncleSporky
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It's like the fourth, I think.
Great Jaggi, then Qurupeco, then Royal Ludroth, then Barroth. I think. I only got to starting on Ludroth.
And there's crafting armor sets of each of those monsters and also crafting weapons along the way, and other random non-hunt quests. It's a long ass time. I played 14 hours in Tri and never killed a Barroth.
WonkyPanda
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Ah, ok, sweet. I'll keep that in mind before I hope in.
DragonGirl
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All large monsters are effectively bosses. Barroth in Tri was typically the first "wall" or serious hurdle to beat in the game.
Edit: This thread seems to be picking up speed.
It's a tip, not a requirement. Since you already know the combat system from the demo you probably should go online earlier. The only thing is online etiquette is to gather resources and items on your own time, not while the rest of your team is off killing the monster.
When you start off, you're going to want to collect everything you can, never sell anything in Monster Hunter. Everything* you get is used for something. So that is usually easier to just do offline.
*there are a handful of items that don't do anything, but there isn't any harm in just keeping them until you learn what they are so you don't accidentally sell of an item that is usable.
Thanks Fly. This applies to the Wii U also? Is there a link to a step-by-step guide. It's funny how they can't/won't (?) patch out the "cursed tables"
Bel_Air_Jeff
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I'd prefer some group questing and going through the tutorial with others, If that's possible..
UncleSporky
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Wait, did I totally skip ahead one monster? And my friend and I killed Royal Ludroth a couple hours ago with Great Jaggi armor and some basic weapons? Shit man.
Haha no sorry, I gapped on that. You're right, Ludroth comes before Barroth.
Unless it's different in this game versus Tri, the tutorial and 'story' were only in the offline mode. You also only had access to your farm and boats offline in tri, but I thought that changed in this game, can anyone confirm that?
UncleSporky
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Does anyone know how the voice chat works in this game?
Is it push to talk? Please let it be push to talk. The auto volume detection thing sucks because somebody always lives in a wind tunnel.
Is it push to talk? Please let it be push to talk. The auto volume detection thing sucks because somebody always lives in a wind tunnel.
Gamer @ Heart
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Pro tip: worry about collecting later when you actually learn what stuff does and whether its important to your playstyle.
That said, ALWAYS take the opportunity to gather honey at beehives when playing alone. They let you make Mega potions when combined with regular potions. They heal for significantly more and give you 10 more healing items when confronting a monster at the start.
You will needs those throughout the entire game no matter what level of play you are at and starting a collection of honey now, and through your farm, means you won't be caught between missions online inadequately prepared.
That said, ALWAYS take the opportunity to gather honey at beehives when playing alone. They let you make Mega potions when combined with regular potions. They heal for significantly more and give you 10 more healing items when confronting a monster at the start.
You will needs those throughout the entire game no matter what level of play you are at and starting a collection of honey now, and through your farm, means you won't be caught between missions online inadequately prepared.
Don't worry, it's all good. Play the way you want to. If you have a desire to improve your skills, gradually start soloing more. It's just a game
The Monster Hunter community has affectionately dubbed certain monsters 'walls'. Basically a difficulty spike that's there to test what you've learned before letting you on to tougher monsters.
In Tri you start off fighting things like Great Jaggi and Qurupeco who you could probably beat with a very rudimentary understanding of the combat system, or maybe just luck and determined button mashing. Barroth is aggressive and requires you to observe his behavior for openings, which is basically the entire basis of MH.
I believe he's been toned down somewhat since P3rd but should still be a challenge for new players. My favorite 'wall' was Khezu in 2nd gen - super slow and predictable, but lots of HP and incredibly powerful attacks. He either taught you patience or you spent a lot of time on the kitty cart. Lord knows I did.
Gear's not even that important in this game if you get down to it. You need some basic skills first and you'll learn them from Barroth. Sure, you could go online and hang out in lobbies spamming BAROTH URGENT PLZ but do you want to be that guy?
Well what he means is people who haven't played at all. Demo Plesioth isn't that hard but if you can beat him you have things figured out.
Armor skills and item combinations can be daunting for sure. That's not something you'll learn in an hour. You're on GAF though, just ask questions and we'll answer.
No wall will ever compare to me soloing Yian Kut-Ku in MH1 where monster HP totals weren't adjusted for offline play. I used sword and shield, had utterly inadequate supplies, and just barely managed to do it before the time limit... But I did it! That's when the series really clicked for me.
That means he's low on health and you're almost done! Just keep chasing him and don't let up.
Just keep bashing away! In the full version you have the choice to trap and then tranquilize monsters when they start limping. You miss out on carves, but capturing yields more items in the rewards screen at the end of the quest.
UncleSporky
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I meant that having the gear shows enough persistence to put together a good starting set, not running around in a mix of leather and chain gear etc.
DragonGirl
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Yeah, hit him some more. If he's limping he's not far from going down. In the game, some quests want you to capture monsters instead of killing them. This requires the use of traps and tranquilizer bombs. When a monster starts limping, that means they are weak enough to be trapped and tranqued.
Edit: Why do I even bother?
There's a FAQ in the demo thread. We seem to have flocked to this one for now - need that OT ASAP!
When he's limping he's running off to sleep - all monsters have a certain specific area they retreat to. You can let him do that, then walk up to him and bash his stupid face in. The first attack on a sleeping monster does bonus damage, if you have some of those large barrel bombs left try that for an explosive finale.
In the real game you can trap them at that point and throw tranq bombs to capture the monster, which can yield better rewards.
Oh you're right on the gear thing. Jaggi armor is perfect for new players and they should focus on that just to learn the ins and outs of armor crafting as well as how skills work.
Thanks I couldn't find that thread :/
I wish it was the demo thread. It took me a few days to come back and find this one, then actually subscribe to it.
Agreed if this is your first time. At least get to Barroth first before going online. People can be understanding when it comes to rookies, but if you kart 2 out of the 3. You may end up in a empty room real quick.
Hey guys, not sure if you checked out (or cared lol) my MH blog on Unity.
Anyway, I just put up Part 2 of, Why Monster Hunter is so AMAZING!
http://www.capcom-unity.com/zentea/blog/2013/03/11/why-monster-hunter-is-amazing-part-2
Hope you guys enjoy it!
Yes it applies to both. So far as we know and have been told, the two versions are identical.
if you haven't already, I'd really encourage you to download Athena's Table search program it has a FAQ in it that lists how to find out which charm table you are on among other things. It's a really great program!
Anyway, I just put up Part 2 of, Why Monster Hunter is so AMAZING!
http://www.capcom-unity.com/zentea/blog/2013/03/11/why-monster-hunter-is-amazing-part-2
Hope you guys enjoy it!
Yes it applies to both. So far as we know and have been told, the two versions are identical.
if you haven't already, I'd really encourage you to download Athena's Table search program it has a FAQ in it that lists how to find out which charm table you are on among other things. It's a really great program!
Jawmuncher
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Just played the demo again on 3DS. Tried out the switch axe and I like it. Killed the easy boss in under 15 minutes. Much better than my by a hair with a minute left with the great sword.
Going to mess around with the switch axe some more. Since there seems to be some things I'm missing z
Going to mess around with the switch axe some more. Since there seems to be some things I'm missing z
Alcotholic
Banned
Good stuff there. Andrex should post these in the OT.
10 more days! Ahhhh!
Also look at this Deviljho rip-off:
It's basically Deviljho reskinned, Frontier devs are lazy.
Fuck I can just imagine the fucked up hitboxes on his sweeping breath attack. Frontier uses the old engine, right?
AAHHHHHHHHH, Fucking charms.
I was able to get a decent Evasion charm in Tri, which made it possible for me to have HG Earplugs, Sharpness+1, Evasion+1 and Transporter. The charm had Evasion (6 points) and Trasporter skill.
The OP for OT should put the explanation and the steps to get the best table in the OP. That would be REALLY helpful.
I was able to get a decent Evasion charm in Tri, which made it possible for me to have HG Earplugs, Sharpness+1, Evasion+1 and Transporter. The charm had Evasion (6 points) and Trasporter skill.
The OP for OT should put the explanation and the steps to get the best table in the OP. That would be REALLY helpful.
Thanks man! I'd be honored.
Yeah the one from MH2.
RiderKairuu
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I have a new found respect for the Great Sword. I haven't actively used a GS since PS2 Monster Hunter, especially in later games when I discovered the Long Sword. Charging is really fun and satisfying when you land those hits. GS and Hammer really lets you feel that impact of each swing!
Shin Kojima
Banned
Yes. Though you might need some non-Jaggi materials too like ore.
MagicWithEarvin
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Who's doing the OT and when is it going to be up?
Shin Kojima
Banned
10 more days! Ahhhh!
Also look at this Deviljho rip-off:
It's basically Deviljho reskinned, Frontier devs are lazy.
From what i heard it isnt about being lazy.
It has to do with separating Frontier from the "regular" versions of the game.
They want to keep some monsters unique to frontier and some unique to the mainline series.
Which is why we see this deviljho reskin and why we see a lagiacrus based monster in frontier as well.
Hmmm... That's a tough question. Indeed, there are some similarities between the two games (though MH maybe is a little more nervous). You have to carefully plan your attacks and wait for opening against some monsters, and block or evade when necessary. You won't watch your health like in the Souls series (because you can bring with you plenty of potions to heal... Though they ARE limited, and against some monsters you never fought before you will run out of potions if you're not careful), but you definitly will learn to fear some attacks. Also, your endurance meter doesn't go down when you are attacking (though, it will go down when you are dodging, blocking and charging some attacks). No magic either in MH.
ajim
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You and me both, brother! Too bad you and I are in the minority.
I think the water elements could be better executed (and I hope they are back in future editions), but provided an excellent dynamic to the battles, especially with the monsters that were land/water based like Lagi.
Great stuff.
FreedomFighter
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This game better be waiting for me in my mail slot when I return to the States on the 19th. Can't wait.
I need to get some of your NNID's so I can play with some you all. I put over 150 hours in Tri on Wii. Was my first MH, now I'm hooked on the series.
I need to get some of your NNID's so I can play with some you all. I put over 150 hours in Tri on Wii. Was my first MH, now I'm hooked on the series.
Could someone please give me some tips for beating Plesioth in the demo? I always seem to run out of time. I'm sure I've come close to getting him as I've broken the fin on his back and had him run to two different areas but I can't seem to get him within the 20mins. I've been mainly trying using longsword or lance - are those two ok or should I be using something else? This is my first time playing MH games - I can take down the easy monster with all the weapons but can't do Plesioth. Any advice would be appreciated!
Eugh, this was like an awful Adam Sandler movie condensed into 7-minutes of da-shittiest-robat-voices-eemaginabul. It even had Sandler's casual racism! (fat black women eating butter out of a tub, c'mon guys)
If they were trying to be sarcastic then they took it too far.
It's you. The 3DS one is marginally better.
Andrex, today or tomorrow.
