Honestly I think it will depend on the monster this time around. Teostra for example has a very dangerous roar. It's fast, can't be rolled through with even evade+3 and he can combo you strait out of it with a claw swipe or charge. He also does a "super nova" attack everytime he goes out of rage mode. The attack has alot of cool down if you're out of the way so it's perfect for chugging a potion (it also frequently one shots you or nearly one shots you)
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Honestly I think it will depend on the monster this time around. Teostra for example has a very dangerous roar. It's fast, can't be rolled through with even evade+3 and he can combo you strait out of it with a claw swipe or charge. He also does a "super nova" attack everytime he goes out of rage mode. The attack has alot of cool down if you're out of the way so it's perfect for chugging a potion (it also frequently one shots you or nearly one shots you)
Sammy Samusu
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This render is giving me life.
Sounds like some classic risk/rewards stuff right there. Since the roar's especially bad, players have to choose between bringing in an earplugs skill to nullify it, taking time in the fight to break off and chug a potion, or just risking it and hoping their weapon has a good block.
Shagaru is the endgame Elder Dragon much like Ceadeus. We didn't actually get a new Jang or Jho equivelant... Maybe the new guy will be like that?
Hopefully it is. Showing a flock of them in the trailer might be a hint that they'll show up randomly to fuck up your day once you reach high rank just like Jho.
Garou
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Uh, no, Shagaru is basically what a Brachidyos Subspecies would have been in 3G. What you think of is Dara Amadura (Or whatever the western name of that will be).
Dara Amadyura is like Dire Miralis. Trust me I have 500 hours in this game. Shagura is considered an elder dragon and is leagues harder than Gore. He also shows up as the end story boss
Garou
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Tell me about it, I have his GQ leveled to 100, but I always thought that Elder Dragons are supposed to be their own stage/area and not moving around like the regular monsters.
He does though technically. I mean I got both his and teo's GQ leveled too so I know what you mean but I have always considered GQ to be a special case. It certainly isn't 1:1 but it's the best analog to Shaggy.
does yours have lances?
Masquerader
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Eh, in Unite, there were some (lesser) Elder Dragons whom moved about normal areas and could be found in the likes of the Tower, too (examples include Telstra, Kushala Daora, etc). The really, REALLY powerful Elder Dragons generally get their own areas.
I hate the big hit -> unavoidable hit -> Stun -> death hit combos that Monster can do, so this is pretty smart.
DrROBschiz
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I hope they bring Chameleos back. Such an awesome monster
Quite a few elder dragon's don't have special areas. Here is a list of them (not counting the ones in MH4 and MHF)
Yian Garuga (He used to be an elder dragon)
Kirin
Lunastra
Teostra
Kushala Daora
Rusted Kushala Daora
Chameleos
Yeah but those guys didn't also get a dedicated arena along with that. There doesn't really so to be an exact analog anywhere in MH really. Plenty of similarities though
DrROBschiz
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Kushala was interesting since he got both an arena and was fightable in regular areas
Really? Was that in a game before FU? Because I don't remember that in that one
Masquerader
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Yup. And in 4U, he should be able to climb walls, or something. Honestly, Chameleons is probably one of the best monsters that could work with the climbing mechanics of 4.
Mhm, but I'd like to see the likes of Fatalis or Akantor in a 'common' area. It'd be quite an awesome surprise.
I think he's referring to the Kushala quests that took place in the town area in MHFU. Teostra also had quests there, and Kirin had a quest in the battleground (the area you fight Akantor in)
Edit^^ yeah I had a hunch but wasn't sure because as you said Teo and Gaoren could also be fought there
Funny story is that people first learned C. Fatty was in 4 by hacking him into Guild Quests lol
Funny story is that people first learned C. Fatty was in 4 by hacking him into Guild Quests lol
Masquerader
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I remember that~! I must admit, Crimson Fatty did not suit the Unknown Forest.
Nor did Daren Mohran.
Ok I have not seen the Daren one and now I need to lol
Panthalassic
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Pinecone dragon looks pretty fun. I'm also liking that the game looks better than MH4 (in my opinion anyways). Next year needs to hurry up!
Masquerader
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Sorry. I only saw an image of it, which has probably been lost to the annals of time. Lemme try and find it~ But needless to say, it doesn't quite fit.
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There ya go~!
This render is giving me life.
Looks fucking awesome!
DrROBschiz
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I love that he picks up hunters and tosses them around
Is that new or do the other wyverns do that too?
It also shows thrown hunters colliding with and knocking over other hunter when thrown which seems to be a first for the series
Edit for above again: in the original when Rajang powers up his fist he can punch you into other players. Also so think teo's nova might also give the same effect
Thank you!
Thank you!
Here have the savage render too
Desert area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-eydCBq1ws
Desert battle w charge blade move https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGj6Hw8Z3XA
Desert battle w charge blade move https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGj6Hw8Z3XA
Garou
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Nope, Great Sword all day everyday
Dang...
Garou
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I see, that's what I get for starting the series with 3G, my bad!
DrROBschiz
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How many weapons got new moves for MH4 anyways?
Is it mostly the same plus aerial attacks added?
Started up Unite on My Vita cuz I was desperate to play MH again.
Would live to See a remaster of Unite and P3rd on Vita with online play and better graphics.
Instead they do that on IOS.
Is it mostly the same plus aerial attacks added?
Started up Unite on My Vita cuz I was desperate to play MH again.
Would live to See a remaster of Unite and P3rd on Vita with online play and better graphics.
Instead they do that on IOS.
Is it true that you can;t attack when someone initiates the quicktime even by getting a flinch with a jump attack? I remember hearing about that when MH4 first came out.
Edit for the above yet again lol: you can but if you flinch the monster the player gets thrown off. It's usually just best to wait till it's done for more free attacks
Of course the is excluding all the jump attacks and the specific chains you can do out of them
Off the top of my head... GS got a really powerful side slash, LS got a new spirit combo move that it can do after the slide slash, SnS got a charge jump like attack, DS and hammer go nothing really new, HH got a new double note swing, lance got a jump out of charge, GL didn't get much and SWAX got a double swing on sword mode
Of course the is excluding all the jump attacks and the specific chains you can do out of them
Masquerader
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Wait... Can you jump anywhere you want to do so now?
eighty(one)
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Dumb question:
I haven't followed 4 (but with 400+ hours invested into 3Ultimate), are Barroth and Duramboros in the game?
I love Barroth and Duramboros
I haven't followed 4 (but with 400+ hours invested into 3Ultimate), are Barroth and Duramboros in the game?
I love Barroth and Duramboros
Thanks for the answer. The more powerful monsters don't take too long do they? I've only seen people riding weak monsters like Hermitaur and G. Jaggi, not bigger stuff like Jho.
They weren't in 4, but they could be brought back for 4G/Ultimate.
Edit for above again: in the original when Rajang powers up his fist he can punch you into other players. Also so think teo's nova might also give the same effect
Thank you!
Here have the savage render too
I like how Great Jaggi has become nothing more than Joe chow these days.
Masquerader
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Pfft. First time I fought Great Jaggi, I thought "This fellow's WAY stronger than Velocidrome." But Capcom have him get eaten constantly and not Velocidrome. Tsk.
Luckily all the monsters take the same time to take down with the ride mechanic. Some monsters might have longer struggle moves or roars or perhaps shorter rest times but all that isn't exactly based on the size of the monster
I feel so bad for him...
Ugh screw Gravios! I I've always hated him... At least in this game after breaking his back the heat gas starts coming out above him when he lasers instead of below
But he does an adorable belly shake.
Think of it this way: They can now dig into the walls! ...Maybe that's not a good thing.