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[Deified Data]

Dr. Manhattan?

He seems to have virtually limitless power in a world where the only other super heroes don't have any powers at all.

Then again, don't know that you can necessarily qualify him as a hero.

I'd place Manhattan in the same tier as the Beyonder, perhaps. Which is quite overpowered.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Sup.

Calling Unit-01 a superhero is stretching it.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Superman

Which is the main crux of making a decent movie or game based on his character.

 

[Satch]

I could be wrong here, but it seems to me that Batman's preptime stuff is only really ridiculous when he's in a story with other superheroes. They gotta make this mortal seem comparable to all these super-powered types, so they beef up the closest thing to a superpower that he has to crazy levels.

batman spoilers

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fairly recently, in his own book, he'd been stuck in a maze, hadn't eaten anything in like a week...? and had been drinking drugged water

then his enemy jumped out of nowhere and stabbed him through the gut, and he was bleeding out pretty badly

then after stumbling around for a bit, he kinda hulked out and started kicking ass, then made an explosive using an old-timey camera and managed to bomb his way through the floor into the sewer water below the maze and didn't die

 

[Manmademan]

I'd place Manhattan in the same tier as the Beyonder, perhaps. Which is quite overpowered.

what??! Secret wars era beyonder?? wow. no. absolutely not.

 

[Deified Data]

Superman

Which is the main crux of making a decent movie or game based on his character.

I don't know, I'd say he's on a level comparable to Thor, who made a decent movie IMO. Superman just needs more powerful villains to keep him in check.

 

[Alx]

Black Bolt is a fascinating character, and his muteness opens him up to unique writing scenarios, but why in the hell would Marvel greenlight such a colossally powerful character who isn't some sort of demigod or cosmic entity? He's just a dude, and his powers appear to trump even the likes of Strange, the Hulk, or Sentry. How does one create drama for such a powerful character?

I'm not an especially big fan of Black Bolt, but being overpowered is what makes him an interesting character. Because he can destroy everything around him with a simple whisper, it becomes too dangerous to use and even pointless in the end because he won't do it. Black Bolt is "that extraordinarily powerful character that can't do anything".

 

[Data West]

Also, Black Bolt's like a Namor. I wouldn't strictly consider him a hero or a villain

 

[Kusagari]

what??! Secret wars era beyonder?? wow. no. absolutely not.

Yeah...Beyonder in that era was, and still is, one of the most overpowered characters ever created in fiction. He could reality warp on a multiversal scale.

Manhattan would be nothing to him at all.

 

[Parch]

There's overpowered, but I would consider absurdly overpowered as meaning ridiculous and stupid. That honor goes to Superman. His comics from the 90's are so stupid and ridiculous that I completely hate the character now.

 

[Quackula]

batman spoilers

Spoiler

fairly recently, in his own book, he'd been stuck in a maze, hadn't eaten anything in like a week...? and had been drinking drugged water

then his enemy jumped out of nowhere and stabbed him through the gut, and he was bleeding out pretty badly

then after stumbling around for a bit, he kinda hulked out and started kicking ass, then made an explosive using an old-timey camera and managed to bomb his way through the floor into the sewer water below the maze and didn't die

Okay I'll just say "It depends on the writer"

 

[Slayven]

 

[MrChocolate]

Calling Unit-01 a superhero is stretching it.

Well, the pilot might be an ass, but it's not a villain.
But, if you mean that the unit per se can't be labeled as a hero, then Iron Man can't be called a hero either.

 

[Tetsuo9]

Touma, nothing can beat plot armor.

 

[marrec]

Gorilla Grodd beats Flash, and he's not overpowered. He's the man ... gorilla. He's the gorilla.

Gorilla Grodd wants in those brains man, he's hungry as fuck.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Why do you hate fun?

And I don't think "overpowered" should be measured purely in destructive force. Surely there other scales to measure "power" as well, such as the creation of life.

So you think that characters that are massively FTL (Pre-Crisis Superman WTF), can destroy galaxies (Or even the Universe itself!), can sit inside black holes just for fun (Fucking Thanos), can be omnipresent (The One Above All), and can open a portal to another universe after it's destroyed another one (Unicron), is remotely acceptable story telling/writing and not in any shape or form ridiculous?

 

[Colocho]

I've never heard of the guy in the OP before, but if what is said is true, isn't his overpoweredness somewhat useless? I mean, he can't really use his powers without killing pretty much everything.

 

[Haly]

So you think that characters that are massively FTL (Pre-Crisis Superman WTF), can destroy galaxies (Or even the Universe itself!), can sit inside black holes just for fun (Fucking Thanos), can be omnipresent (The One Above All), and can open a portal to another universe after it's destroyed another one (Unicron), is remotely acceptable story telling/writing and not in any shape or form ridiculous?

I think the ridiculousness is kind of the point.

Not every story needs to be believable/consistent. It depends on what the author is trying to do and the audience they're appealing to.

 

[Lunchbox]

captain planet





just keep him away from smoke, trash, dirt, dumpsters and anything dirty and polluted. you know like 90% of our planet

 

[kai3345]

Wait they wrote off World War Hulk as Hulk being a Skrull?

Are you fucking serious?

 

[Deified Data]

So you think that characters that are massively FTL (Pre-Crisis Superman WTF), can destroy galaxies (Or even the Universe itself!), can sit inside black holes just for fun (Fucking Thanos), can be omnipresent (The One Above All), and can open a portal to another universe after it's destroyed another one (Unicron), is remotely acceptable story telling/writing and not in any shape or form ridiculous?

IMO, some characters who were originally written for a younger audience are having a tough time remaining viable for adult readers who expect more conflict in their stories. Some characters age better than others, and I feel as though said characters tend to have more modest skill-sets.

Wait they wrote off World War Hulk as Hulk being a Skrull?

Are you fucking serious?

Black Bolt was the Skrull, Hulk was Hulk. The only reason Hulk was able to defeat Bolt is because he was a Skrull.

Though the real Bolt may have been reluctant to unleash his full power against the Hulk in the first place. His greatest weakness.

 

[Alx]

I don't know, I'd say he's on a level comparable to Thor, who made a decent movie IMO. Superman just needs more powerful villains to keep him in check.

The interesting thing in the Thor movie is that he never really used his powers (or when he did, he completely dominated his opponents). The story in Thor isn't about a hero fighting powerful enemies, but about two men trying to become worthy of the throne of Asgard.

 

[Manmademan]

Yeah...Beyonder in that era was, and still is, one of the most overpowered characters ever created in fiction. He could reality warp on a multiversal scale.

Manhattan would be nothing to him at all.

That guy was a sentient universe trillions of times larger than the Marvel U ("as a drop of water is to the ocean") that collapsed itself down into human form out of curiosity.

It had no limitations whatsoever, and everything it did during secret wars including eliminating the concept of death itself was done with only a fraction of it's full abilities.

the beyonder was irresponsibly overpowered. I can't believe editorial approved that one.

 

[orion434]

The Ion. Kyle Rayner was practically omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. JLA was out of job when he was the Ion. Disabled all weapons on a planet with just a thought, such that you can't fire anything, kill anyone. He can be anywhere at once, he can beat anyone in but a second. He's Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlets but no "I wanted to lose deep down inside" BS.

Good Times!

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

This is why I can't take most manga/comics/sci-fi even remotely seriously.

The characters are so ridiculously overpowered that there latest feat just induces eyerolls.


And fun fact: Dragonball Z is not even CLOSE to some of the absurd power levels in fiction, despite its bad rep for overpowered characters.

See:

Doctor Who
Manifold
Saint Seiya
Tenchi Muyo
Digimon
Transformers
DC Comics
Marvel Comics
Gurren Laggan (A mech that can literally throw entire galaxies as if their shuriken.)
etc...

Whoever thought any of these series was acceptable should be slapped in the face.

Transformers? Man, Shockwave got killed by dropping a blanket over his eye and Starscream got killed by freaking out over something in his eye!

 

[Host Samurai]

Jon Bones Jones is insanely overpowered to the rest of his division.

But seriously speaking, the movie villains in DBZ are way too overpowered that the only way they are defeated are by creating plot holes to the cannon. Which makes sense because how can you make a DBZ movie where the bad guy wins.

Also Prep time Batman is basically a god that can beat anyone.

Forgot to mention Naruto, he's just become way too powerful for the story now.

 

[Slayven]

That guy was a sentient universe trillions of times larger than the Marvel U ("as a drop of water is to the ocean") that collapsed itself down into human form out of curiosity.

It had no limitations whatsoever, and everything it did during secret wars including eliminating the concept of death itself was done with only a fraction of it's full abilities.

the beyonder was irresponsibly overpowered. I can't believe editorial approved that one.

Those stories were gold, especially the issue where Spiderman teaches about being human. The look on Spidey face when he had to tell Beyonder how to take a dump? Awesomeness.

 

[SUPREME1]

Wait they wrote off World War Hulk as Hulk being a Skrull?

Are you fucking serious?

No.

Black Bolt was the Skrull.


Hulk destroyed Black Bolt (Skrull).

 

[Manmademan]

Those stories were gold, especially the issue where Spiderman teaches about being human. The look on Spidey face when he had to tell Beyonder how to take a dump? Awesomeness.

yeah, they don't write comics like THAT anymore

 

[Tacitus_]

IMO, some characters who were originally written for a younger audience are having a tough time remaining viable for adult readers who expect more conflict in their stories. Some characters age better than others, and I feel as though said characters tend to have more modest skill-sets.

More like the result of over half a century of power creep.

 

[zero_suit]

That guy was a sentient universe trillions of times larger than the Marvel U ("as a drop of water is to the ocean") that collapsed itself down into human form out of curiosity.

It had no limitations whatsoever, and everything it did during secret wars including eliminating the concept of death itself was done with only a fraction of it's full abilities.

the beyonder was irresponsibly overpowered. I can't believe editorial approved that one.

Yup, no one else comes close.

 

[Monroeski]

Black Bolt's real name is Blackagar Boltagon?

 

[Data West]

Also, Black Bolt has a harem of alien chicks

 

[Deified Data]

More like the result of over half a century of power creep.

Flash is easily the most guilty of this.

 

[Slayven]

Also, Black Bolt has a harem of alien chicks

And he married his first cousin.

 

[The Omega Man]

I would say Captain America

Spoiler

needs a buff and more recognition as the badass he is, he is my favourite super hero

 

[bjork]

batman spoilers

Spoiler

fairly recently, in his own book, he'd been stuck in a maze, hadn't eaten anything in like a week...? and had been drinking drugged water

then his enemy jumped out of nowhere and stabbed him through the gut, and he was bleeding out pretty badly

then after stumbling around for a bit, he kinda hulked out and started kicking ass, then made an explosive using an old-timey camera and managed to bomb his way through the floor into the sewer water below the maze and didn't die

Doesn't stupid batman know that

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if you always turn left or always turn right, you can beat any maze?

 

[Deified Data]

I would say Captain America

Spoiler

needs a buff and more recognition as the badass he is, he is my favourite super hero

Felt bad for Cap in the Avengers - running around the city, looking for mundane shit he can help the super-powered folks with. He was out of his element.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

And he married his first cousin.

But she's hot...

 

[DarkKyo]

Pretty much has the power to break every natural rule of spacetime/the universe purely because he believes he can.

 

[ultron87]

Doesn't stupid batman know that

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if you always turn left or always turn right, you can beat any maze?

He knows that that only works if all of a maze's walls are connected to the outside wall.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Yup, no one else comes close.

The-One-Above-All would absolutely annihilate him, no contest. It's the most powerful fictional character...ever. Period.

Transformers? Man, Shockwave got killed by dropping a blanket over his eye and Starscream got killed by freaking out over something in his eye!

The movie transformers are pathetically weak, but the comics and other versions are absurdly powerful. Unicron in particular.

IMO, some characters who were originally written for a younger audience are having a tough time remaining viable for adult readers who expect more conflict in their stories. Some characters age better than others, and I feel as though said characters tend to have more modest skill-sets..

While this is true, you don't have to make characters get so powerful that it becomes extremely boring to read.

 

[marrec]

Flash is easily the most guilty of this.

But also the only example of interesting power creep.

 

[OldAsUrSock]

This guy

Perfect Cell can destroy a solar system who was killed by Gohan who is weaker than Goku SS2. Goku becomes a SS3 which is many times more powerful than a SS2. Then in SS4 he becomes many times more powerful than SS3. So as you can tell destroying a solar system is possible for this guy. Who is if you did not know SS4 Goku.

 

[Slayven]

But she's hot...

He made the right choice.

 

[Mumei]

That guy was a sentient universe trillions of times larger than the Marvel U ("as a drop of water is to the ocean") that collapsed itself down into human form out of curiosity.

It had no limitations whatsoever, and everything it did during secret wars including eliminating the concept of death itself was done with only a fraction of it's full abilities.

the beyonder was irresponsibly overpowered. I can't believe editorial approved that one.

I was under the impression that TOAA was higher up in the hierarchy than Pre-Retcon Beyonder, but your characterization makes it seem as if that is in question.

Can you clarify that for me?

 

[bjork]

He knows that that only works if all of a maze's walls are connected to the outside wall.

Then a crumb trail!

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

we had this thread already.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436100&page=35

my vote goes to plastic man or the flash

Love that thread, one of my favorites of last year. Essentially Hulk is such a boss.

Haha, her abilities are practically to take down overpowered characters, so the more powerful they are, the more screwed they are!

 

[marrec]

This guy

Perfect Cell can destroy a solar system who was killed by Gohan who is weaker than Goku SS2. Goku becomes a SS3 which is many times more powerful than a SS2. Then in SS4 he becomes many times more powerful than SS3. So as you can tell destroying a solar system is possible for this guy. Who is if you did not know SS4 Goku.

Excuse me, the correct term is SSJ4. Don't embarrass yourself.

 

[TacticalFox88]

This guy

Perfect Cell can destroy a solar system who was killed by Gohan who is weaker than Goku SS2. Goku becomes a SS3 which is many times more powerful than a SS2. Then in SS4 he becomes many times more powerful than SS3. So as you can tell destroying a solar system is possible for this guy. Who is if you did not know SS4 Goku.

DBZ shouldn't even be discussed. It's not even in the same stratosphere as some of the series mentioned here.