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Most annoying PS3 feature no one talks about.

omg rite said:
That's a pretty big annoyance when it's completely uncalled for. If I don't have to deal with it on 360 and Wii, why PS3?

So, if the decompression and installation was just part of the "download" process would you feel better about it? I believe that is what happens in the XB360 procedure.
 
Here is my most annoying PS3 feature.

Why is the volume so loud when you're on the main XMB in the games section? You know, the looping "attract" music, or preview music, or whatever that is? I will be playing a game, at normal acceptable volume, then exit to the XMB and that attract music will be sooooooo loud!
 
cRIPticon said:
So, if the decompression and installation was just part of the "download" process would you feel better about it? I believe that is what happens in the XB360 procedure.
How do you know that? I've downloaded demos in 5 minutes time and the equivalent of what it'd take me to install the same size demo on PS3.
 
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Here is my most annoying PS3 feature.

Why is the volume so loud when you're on the main XMB in the games section? You know, the looping "attract" music, or preview music, or whatever that is? I will be playing a game, at normal acceptable volume, then exit to the XMB and that attract music will be sooooooo loud!



Now this is an annoyance.


People bitching about having to install things are being silly.
 
I have a different most annoying PS3 feature that nobody talks about: The fact that you have to tell it what AV inputs to recognize, and you can only have one at a time.

For example, I have HDMI on my televison in my living room, whereas the smaller LCD in my bedroom has component inputs. Whenever I want to move my PS3 from my living room to my bedroom, I have to hook up the PS3 via component to my living room TV while still keeping the HDMI connected, go into the display settings, switch it from HDMI to component, then quickly change the input on my televison to component so the console recognizes it and switches disply settings. Then I have to unhook the component cable and set it up in my bedroom...kind of a pain. And the reverse, when I want to switch it from my bedroom to my living room is even more of a pain.

Not the end of the world or anything, but it is a big pet peeve of mine. Anyone else run into this annoyance?
 
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Here is my most annoying PS3 feature.

Why is the volume so loud when you're on the main XMB in the games section? You know, the looping "attract" music, or preview music, or whatever that is? I will be playing a game, at normal acceptable volume, then exit to the XMB and that attract music will be sooooooo loud!

yeah they need to adjust that. if you only had Gran Turismo, it wouldnt be bad though.
 
krypt0nian said:
If this is the most annoying feature the PS3 has nothing to worry about.

Well.. no. It does. Heh.

CapoAheaz said:
i think the reason theres a defense force is threads like this.
i mean come on, whining about a 1 time install of 10 minutes? is it really that bad? ever played a PC game before?
theres gotta be better stuff to whine about, like how every game is delayed (sans insomniac). now thats some bull.
its not as bad on this forum, the force is strong, but on others people go out of their way to trash and nitpick the ps3.
i try to avoid these threads, but sometimes it hits a nerve and you get sucked in.

And yet, these aren't PCs.

And if it's a non-issue on Xbox 360, it shouldn't be an issue on PS3. Then people complain, and it's a "nitpick."

beermonkey@tehbias said:
The biggest problem about the PS3 is that you can't have any kind of critical discussion about any aspect of it without the defense force rallying and whining about it.

Quoting for truth.
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
I don't mind installs with retail games, but the install times on demos (up to 30 min with R&C) is total bullshit. It's just poor design, plain and simple, as the 360 doesn't suffer from this.

Tear me apart, SDF!! I'll die for the truth!

1) You only have to install it once.
2) Using the PS3 hardware capabilities to eliminate or reduce load times is a signal of good and thoughtful design, not bad.
 
omg rite said:
And if it's a non-issue on Xbox 360, it shouldn't be an issue on PS3. Then people complain, and it's a "nitpick."

And the reverse should be true, no?

I'm sure making a thread about complaining about no custom HDDs being available for the 360 would be met with applause.
 
pswii60 said:
Perhaps you should read the OP again.

I read it just fine. He was complaining about having to install everything on a PS3.

Then I wrote a long post explaining exactly why that was the case and the benefits of doing so.

...really, I should have just said, "I guess ignorance is not bliss in this case."

Perhaps you should read it again, particularly if you're going to go around suggesting that other people do so.

Oh wait, I get it. You're assuming that he is only talking about demos, even though he said "everything". When you learn what "everything" means, I'll re-read his post. How about that?

In the case of demos I would guess that a majority of the install time is decompression routines.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
The biggest problem about the PS3 is that you can't have any kind of critical discussion about any aspect of it without the defense force rallying and whining about it.

Yes and I blame the pathetic crusading fanboys who have dedicated their life's to grasp for reasons to hate and troll the console.

Beermonkey, people like you are the very reason why the so called defense force is so aggressive. ^.^ Do not forget who and what you are.
 
Seems like a valid complaint, especially around demos. But at least
1) you don't have to pay for them
2) you don't have to wait a week extra to download them because you're not a subscriber (under ideal circumstances)

If it means retail games load faster it sounds like a good thing for me. If this is the most annoying feature of the PS3 then it really is an awesome system.
 
Minor annoyances of the PS3:

The controllers/machine don't turn themselves off.
Downloading demos and then having to install them.
[They fixed the whole plug in your wireless controller thing - huzzah!]
Crazy volume on the XMB vs. gameplay
No way of organizing games/music/pictures.
Media Server functionality needs some work.
DS3 triggers from hell.

All very minor. None of which stopped me from buying it, or enjoying the games on it, but also none of which couldn't be fixed easily by Sony.

To be fair:

Minor Annoyances with the 360:
Hopping gamertags when using guitar controllers/or dancepads.
Inability to fucking tell that I only have a single storage unit so stop fucking asking me!
Live downages.
Popping up the guide and getting stuck there while people shoot me in the face.
Only 100 person Friends list.
No clan support.
 
Kestastrophe said:
Doesn't it have to do with the slower disc read speed with the PS3?
1) on average, 2x BluRay is as fast as a 12x DVD-drive, because the read-speed is equal all over the disc, whereas DVD read faster on the outer rings and slower on the inner rings, the 12x is only reached on the outer regions.

2) I'm pretty sure downloadable demo's have little problem with whatever speed the discdrive is.
 
Didnt know you also had to install demo's...

I thought the beauty of consoles was drop in and play.

God, I remember the flak xbox got for being a pc...
 
besada said:
Minor annoyances of the PS3:

The controllers/machine don't turn themselves off.


I'm curious what you mean by that. There's the option "turn off controllers" and also "turn off system" while you're not in a game.
 
Ranger X said:
I'm curious what you mean by that. There's the option "turn off controllers" and also "turn off system" while you're not in a game.

I think he's saying automatically after a set period of time. Which annoys me about it too.
 
Woo-Fu said:
This isn't true, they added that functionality awhile back. It isn't particularly easy or quick, but it is possible.

Fair enough. It's sort of in there, but it's hard to use and is particularly unuseful in handling connections to media servers. I've never found it worth the agony they made it to use, but you caqn manage a certain level of organization if you're willing to work on it.
 
TheBranca18 said:
I think he's saying automatically after a set period of time. Which annoys me about it too.

You want your machine to shut itself down after a set period of time?
"Sorry buddy, I know you're near the endboss, but time's up, and OWH I see you didn't save. Well, better luck next time!"
 
The most annoying PS3 feature(s) are discussed ad nosium on this board. Same goes for X360 and Wii and everything else. Load times are not a problem for me and I bet it gets streamlined in future firmware updates.
 
is there ANYONE in this thread saying that other people shouldn't complain because it doesn't bother them that wouldn't like to see this, copying a file, and ripping a cd happen in the background?

if i can download a file off the internet in the background, why can't i copy a file from my pc in the background? i know the ps3 doesn't use a fraction of its processing power to rip a cd or to display the XMB, so why can't i rip a cd in the background?

why can't we suggest ways to improve the firmware.

we got the same shit when we were complaining about no background downloads. 'well it doesn't bother me!' 'well the xbox 360 didn't do it at launch either'.

accepting what we've got makes it more or less likely that what we've got gets improved for the better of everyone? give that question a think next time you rush to marginalise a complaint.
 
neorej said:
1) on average, 2x BluRay is as fast as a 12x DVD-drive, because the read-speed is equal all over the disc, whereas DVD read faster on the outer rings and slower on the inner rings, the 12x is only reached on the outer regions.

2) I'm pretty sure downloadable demo's have little problem with whatever speed the discdrive is.

All games for the 360 are dual layer DVDs. The drive can only read those discs at a maximum speed of 8X, not 12X.
 
neorej said:
You want your machine to shut itself down after a set period of time?
"Sorry buddy, I know you're near the endboss, but time's up, and OWH I see you didn't save. Well, better luck next time!"

I meant the controllers.
 
PirateSean said:
I don't see it as a problem at all, since its a one-time install. I install everything on my PC, which mostly take longer than PS3. Just go make a drink or something.


I hate that recommendation. :) I can only make so many drinks and sandwiches while the system doesn't allow me to actually play games.
 
TheBranca18 said:
I meant the controllers.

Or the machine, if it's not in use. The PS3 knows whether it's in XMB or in a game, so I can think of no reason not to put an auto-off. Hell, my cab;e-box has an auto-off setting. But the controllers are the bigger pain, because if the controller has power you can always shut the machine off from there.

Can I add no IR as a minor annoyance? My Harmony Remote hates the PS3 and Wii.
 
some people want a console to be a console, some people want a console to be a console-pc hybrid, personally, id hate having forced installs for console games, leave that to pcs
 
omg rite said:
And yet, these aren't PCs.

And if it's a non-issue on Xbox 360, it shouldn't be an issue on PS3. Then people complain, and it's a "nitpick."

its a nitpick. its a small feature that has little impact on the overall experience.
as a ps3 you learn to have patience. im still waiting for the SOCOM game that was supposed to come out in november. now thats worth talking about.
 
Strikes me as odd that an auto-off option would be needed. When you're done playing you put the console in sleep mode or shut it down and voila.

One little thing i'd like on the PS3 though is that it would go back in sleep mode after you eject a disk (like the Wii). Kinda annoy me when i put the console in sleep mode and forgot to eject the disk before.
 
Personally, I don't care about the game installation because let's just say I need to leave my apartment and want to shut down my PS3 (while it's downloading), it's at 60% for an example and when I turn my PS3 back on, it's still at 60% downloading and will finish up. Once it's done, I can just install (Installing isn't really bad to me, because at least I know it's a time period I cannot turn off my console). If I cancel a download on my PS3, the demo is completely gone from my PS3 (meaning not using up any HDD space, which is limited to me due to having a 20GB).

While on the 360 (I don't really want to get into console arguments here), if I turn off my console at 60% (since I gotta go somewhere and prefer not leaving game consoles or anything on when I leave my apartment), I turn my 360 back on and the download says 42% or something, so I gotta wait longer. If I decide to cancel a download on my 360 (like at 30%), there are still contents saved on my 360, so I have to go under the 360 memory management to delete the cache. Personally, I consider that more of an inconvenience than installing demos, but that's just me.


Although, I do think there should at least be an option to auto install demos/games after you downloaded. It would be like the 360, except the 360 kind of does both, at the same time, while the PS3 will do it at the end.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
The biggest problem about the PS3 is that you can't have any kind of critical discussion about any aspect of it without the defense force rallying and whining about it.


Absolutely the truth.


I also can't stand the update process compared to the 360. There have been times that I have fired up my PS3 and saw that I needed to update it again...and said "screw it" and turned it off. Why do I need to dig out my USB cabel? Why does the whole process take upwards of an hour if not longer? I can update my 360 in less than 30 seconds and not have to do anything but click "YES".

Also, why are PSN downloads so slow. Live has been shit for the past month and download speeds have been the worst that they have ever been...yet they are still faster than PSN downloads. Correct me if I'm wrong here but do we still not have the ability to play a non-online enabled game and have background downloading still active? I may have missed this update but background downloading is essentially useless if all I can do while it is going on is stare at the XMB....which is a souless, drab UI...but that is my opinion not really an "annoying feature".


careful said:
No, the correct answer is: shitty usability of using the triangle button for everything. For example, grouping stuff together in folders or navigating the directories of a USB key.

Very true. It feels un-American to have to push triangle instead of X to say...bring up the options menu on a file/message to delete it.
 
It would be awesome if you could opt for an option that masks the installation process as a download instead. What I mean is, instead of downloading a demo, then manually having to initiate the installation, they should allow the demo/game to install itself in the background (a slower installation that still lets you navigate the XMB), and use the download bar as an indication on how far it has gone. It will seem like a slow-ass download, but at least when the "download" bar is full, then the installation will be completed too.
 
BoilersFan23 said:
Although, I do think there should at least be an option to auto install demos/games after you downloaded. It would be like the 360, except the 360 kind of does both, at the same time, while the PS3 will do it at the end.

good idea. best of both worlds. now someone tell sony.
 
neorej said:
By the way, if you don't do the download in background thingy, I believe the demo installs automatically.

it does because the PS3 knows you are doing nothing else when it is downloading in the store, so it downloads autmatically.
 
Z_Y said:
Absolutely the truth.


I also can't stand the update process compared to the 360. There have been times that I have fired up my PS3 and saw that I needed to update it again...and said "screw it" and turned it off. Why do I need to dig out my USB cabel? Why does the whole process take upwards of an hour if not longer? I can update my 360 in less than 30 seconds and not have to do anything but click "YES".

When you don't know all the information about something it really makes you look ignorant when you complain about it. It's been months since you've had to use your USB cable to update the PS3's firmware.
 
BoilersFan23 said:
While on the 360 (I don't really want to get into console arguments here), if I turn off my console at 60% (since I gotta go somewhere and prefer not leaving game consoles or anything on when I leave my apartment), I turn my 360 back on and the download says 42% or something, so I gotta wait longer. If I decide to cancel a download on my 360 (like at 30%), there are still contents saved on my 360, so I have to go under the 360 memory management to delete the cache. Personally, I consider that more of an inconvenience than installing demos, but that's just me.
I don't understand, if your 360 is connected to a network all the time, when you turn it off it should automatically download even though it's "off" with the autodownload option, have you tried turning that on. Once the software is downloaded the machine turns itself off.
You shouldn't ever have to delete the incomplete downloads, the 360 will resume those downloads without problems.
 
Z_Y said:
Absolutely the truth.


I also can't stand the update process compared to the 360. There have been times that I have fired up my PS3 and saw that I needed to update it again...and said "screw it" and turned it off. Why do I need to dig out my USB cabel? Why does the whole process take upwards of an hour if not longer? I can update my 360 in less than 30 seconds and not have to do anything but click "YES".

Also, why are PSN downloads so slow. Live has been shit for the past month and download speeds have been the worst that they have ever been...yet they are still faster than PSN downloads. Correct me if I'm wrong here but do we still no thave the ability to play a non-online enabled game and have background downloading still active? I may have missed this update but background downloading is essentially useless if all I can do while it is going on is stare at the XMB....which is a souless, drab UI...but that is my opinion not really an "annoying feature".

How about updating your console and setting it in a way it would solve your problem? It's been a freaking long time you don't need to plug the controller to update. About the slow downloads, while it might be because of 345 reasons when you're wireless, mine is wired and i NEVER get those slow downloads and updates.
 
Z_Y said:
I also can't stand the update process compared to the 360. There have been times that I have fired up my PS3 and saw that I needed to update it again...and said "screw it" and turned it off. Why do I need to dig out my USB cabel? Why does the whole process take upwards of an hour if not longer? I can update my 360 in less than 30 seconds and not have to do anything but click "YES"."

you dont need to use your USB cable, that has been gone for a long time now.

I dont get why it takes so long for you, updating my PS3 takes no more than 5 minutes.

Downloads are also fast on PSN, same as 360 for the most part (except with big releases like GTHD which took 2 hours or Bioshock which took over night or Crackdown which took 8 hours.)
 
Linkzg said:
you dont need to use your USB cable, that has been gone for a long time now.

I dont get why it takes so long for you, updating my PS3 takes no more than 5 minutes.

All it would take for him to fix this:

Having your PS3 have a static IP Address.

Putting this private IP Address into your router as DMZ.

But complaining about it is much more fun.
 
Ranger X said:
Strikes me as odd that an auto-off option would be needed. When you're done playing you put the console in sleep mode or shut it down and voila.

Sometimes I pop over to check something on another console or the TV, and then never get around to going back. What usually happens then is I forget, my controller runs out of juice, and I have to shut it down from the switch. Not a big deal, but neither is putting in an auto-off setting.
 
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