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Most blatant Plot-Armors in fiction?

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People are mentioning Game of Thrones? Wut? Okay I haven't watched past S4, but... do people really have such short memories?

Well... this is all my opinion and many people still love game of thrones.

gonna spoiler (game of thrones all the way to season 6)
Season 5 & 6 have been really much less fun to watch compared to the others season. It really does feel like characters like Jon Snow, Dany or Arya have HUGE plot armors at least to this point.

They killed off so many important characters that if you kill anyone you would just get an empty story at this point.

Arya and Dany barely have done anything in all 6 seasons, why would they get so much screen time to just suddenly die, they barely affect any other character.

This is why mountain vs the viper was one of the most amazing episodes, there was so much that could happen and nobody had any plot-armor:

The viper winning the fight? Whats tyrion going to do, he can't stay in king's landing... can he? if not, where is he going to go?
The mountain wins? Is tyrion going to die? How is this going to affect dorne's relationship? Is tyrion going go to the wall?

WHO KNOWS!? SO MANY POSSIBLITIES.

If arya just dies to that stab in the last season, how is that going to affect any other key character?
And does anyone honestly expect jon snow losing and dieing the battle against ramsay snow?

"All that for his/her death...?"
 
They only
killed him off when they hit the final season
, before that he could pretty much do anything.

I think plot armor is starting to lose its relevance as a term if this is what we are dealing with.
 
A few from Danganronpa - one for each mainline entry even, and all to do with good (or bad) luck.

Trigger-Happy Havoc:
Makoto Naegi's luck saves him from execution; in fact, being chosen for execution puts him in a safe-ish place and creates the moment to strike against the mastermind of the plot. He also in the first episode finds his bathroom door to be broken in such a way that you need to open it in a very certain way - thereby proving he couldn't have been the killer, as the doorknob was removed with a screwdriver to get in.

Goodbye Despair:
This is where the real shit comes in. Nagito Komaeda is ridiculously lucky. In the main plot, he intends to have himself be killed as a sacrifice in order to advance the killing game, but instead he is saved, and another person dies in his place. He wins a game of Russian roulette with five chambers loaded. The worse thing to happen to him is that he ultimately dies in the fifth chapter, but his death is literally the result of his desire to be killed. He is indisputably one of the most bullshit lucky characters I've ever seen. In his backstory, it is also shown that his bad luck usually rewards him. Gets in a plane crash with his parents - survives and is a millionaire from his inheritance. Gets kidnapped and held for ransom, finds a winning lottery ticket.

The End of Hope's Peak Academy:
Izuru Kamakura, the likely most powerful character in the franchise. He has all ultimate abilities, including luck, and while we do not see much of it, we did just see him survive getting shot due to the gun jamming.
 
This right here.

Also, I just finished Aldnoah Zero yesterday and this fucker gives Kira a run for his money.

aldnoah_zero_01_2.jpg


Survives a goddamn bullet to the eye

Ahh the ultimate Plot Armour hax pilot which had super eye which said if it is overused will eat the brain of the user but end up being even more powerful than all Super Robot lol. WTF.
 
Katey Sagal in Sons of Anarchy. If she hadn't been the writer's wife, her character had died halfway season 2.
 
It also doesn't help that Sasuke gets literal invincibility armor later on.

I want to mention the other edgelord Shadow the Hedgehog too. Remember when he died? Good times.
 
Ahh the ultimate Plot Armour hax pilot which had super eye which said if it is overused will eat the brain of the user but end up being even more powerful than all Super Robot lol. WTF.
I should thank you.

I was reading the GAF OT alongside my viewing and it helped me keep my sanity intact.
 
Golgo 13 - in the movie the opening scene is an ambush with miniguns and entire crates of grenades and it just cuts to him calmly driving away in a boat. The entire take-away is "oh, ok, so danger can't actually mean anything". But then again that whole film/series is Mary-Sue with women begging him to pay them in orgasms.

Stargate SG-1 - near the end of the series there's a scene on a Goauld world with a device with 3 gizmos, 2 of which blow them up and 1 that deactivates it. After only a few seconds hesitation Jack randomly picks one and it's correct. The whole scene is only like a minute and is a minor part of their mission.
 
I figure, no one is mentioning it because of how blatant it is, but the movie "2012" most certainly applies here. Like his whole family survives except the new husband to make way for the former husband to come back into the family lol. I am glad War of the Worlds didn't do this, though they did have plot armor.
 
I figure, no one is mentioning it because of how blatant it is, but the movie "2012" most certainly applies here. Like his whole family survives except the new husband to make way for the former husband to come back into the family lol. I am glad War of the Worlds didn't do this, though they did have plot armor.

It always bothered me that the new husband dies and nobody even gives a fuck. Like, sometimes second marriages are OK folks.

Also, my answer is Kira fucking Yamato.

Dude gets trapped in two exploding giant robots and barely gets a scratch either time.
 
Speaking of manga/anime, the series Toriko has recently pretty much turned plot armor into a usable super power.

Two villain characters have the ability to use it, but one of them literally out plot armoured the other by summoning the main character to assist him in the fight.

Haha, Food Luck is truly some Hax shit.
 
I figure, no one is mentioning it because of how blatant it is, but the movie "2012" most certainly applies here. Like his whole family survives except the new husband to make way for the former husband to come back into the family lol. I am glad War of the Worlds didn't do this, though they did have plot armor.

The new husband seemed like a genuinely good guy that was understanding and trying to help the family stay together, even working with Cusack despite him being the ex husband.

His reward? Crushed to death in the gears of the ship, probably the most cruel and gruesome death in the movie.
 
The new husband seemed like a genuinely good guy that was understanding and trying to help the family stay together, even working with Cusack despite him being the ex husband.

His reward? Crushed to death in the gears of the ship, probably the most cruel and gruesome death in the movie.

His crime was not being as cool as John Cusack. For this, he deserved to die.
 
All I can think about is the MCU. A dozen movies where the stakes are usually the fate of the world, and nobody ever gets hurt. At the very worst they get bed-hair and it looks like they have been up all night partying.

The tree is dead, but then he is fine a couple scenes later, Sammy Jackson is dead, but then he is fine a couple scenes later. It's like a whole team of Supermans without any Kryptonite weakness. Iron Man ain't even a proper alcoholic.
 
All I can think about is the MCU. A dozen movies where the stakes are usually the fate of the world, and nobody ever gets hurt. At the very worst they get bed-hair and it looks like they have been up all night partying.

The tree is dead, but then he is fine a couple scenes later, Sammy Jackson is dead, but then he is fine a couple scenes later. It's like a whole team of Supermans without any Kryptonite weakness. Iron Man ain't even a proper alcoholic.

Quicksilver died. Guess he doesn't count though. For some reason.
 
Legend of Korra Season 3 is probably some of the best stuff in the avatar universe and the show as a whole covered some interesting themes. What's wrong with you lmao

Don't you mean "The Legend of Ginora" Book 1 since she basically does everything important in that season
 
I figure, no one is mentioning it because of how blatant it is, but the movie "2012" most certainly applies here. Like his whole family survives except the new husband to make way for the former husband to come back into the family lol. I am glad War of the Worlds didn't do this, though they did have plot armor.

For me 2012 (as dumb as it was) and War of the Worlds aren't really plot armour.

Plot armour is more like one instance when a character is pointlessly protected just because.

For those two films, you're basically following along with a family that survives and seeing the destruction from their point of view. You pretty much know from the start they'll be fine and their survival isn't really the point of either film. If you imagine them as documentaries where a film crew followed around a bunch of different families, and used the footage from the one that survived to make the film.
 
Glen in The Walking Dead. The dumpster scene was one of the most ridiculous plot armor bullshit I've ever seen in a tv show.
 
Speaking of manga/anime, the series Toriko has recently pretty much turned plot armor into a usable super power.

Two villain characters have the ability to use it, but one of them literally out plot armoured the other by summoning the main character to assist him in the fight.

Yeah this is a good example. The latest chapter was literally just "MIdora gained plot armor superior to Joei's plot armor, so now he wins the fight by just doing literally nothing"
 
That happened in like season 2 as well...
Berric Dondarrean anyone?

Game of Thrones S6 spoiler:

But when Beric came back, he was a changed man. Jon is identical. That's a huge difference. The only reason Jon was killed is so he could leave the Night's Watch. There's no other character or narrative change. No one else even cares that he's back! Hell, the North swore allegiance to him even though, in their eyes, he's either a deserter, a zombie, or both. That's really lousy storytelling.
 
The goddamn dragon balls.

If plot armor are instances of a character being immune to harm, than where do the dragon balls fit?

Do you mean the dragon balls having the power to bring characters back to life?
That's the basis of the show and it it comes with restrictions.

The irritating part of the show are the long list of enemies with multiple forms each one stronger than the previous one. Why can't they just assume their strongest form the start and be done with it?
 
Game of thrones is a bloodbath. Characters are falling left and right.
If that's what comes to mind when you think about plot armor than you desperately need a wider frame of reference.
 
Game of thrones is a bloodbath. Characters are falling left and right.
If that's what comes to mind when you think about plot armor than you desperately need a wider frame of reference.
Bran and Arya have pretty solid plot armor. Can also stretch that to Khaleesi.

Carl from TWD also comes to mind.
 
Yeah, this is getting ridiculous.

"Character had total plot armour... until he didn't"

Like, okay...

Makes complete sense as a complain since it is the actions that they are allowed to perform what matters, not whether they eventually died or not. If a character like Rambo enters a facility and kills 100 men alone to save a POW, and then later dies in a game of Russian roulette or cancer, etc in peaceful times, it doesn't remove the fact that he was allowed to do something improbably dangerous because the plot demanded that he could not be harmed back then until he finished the mission and saved the other character's life.

edit: but anyway, it doesn't apply to Omar. haha
 
Dragon Balls are nothing compared to the bs plot armor of Saiyan get so much more powerful if they get hurt badly
 
For me 2012 (as dumb as it was) and War of the Worlds aren't really plot armour.

Plot armour is more like one instance when a character is pointlessly protected just because.

For those two films, you're basically following along with a family that survives and seeing the destruction from their point of view. You pretty much know from the start they'll be fine and their survival isn't really the point of either film. If you imagine them as documentaries where a film crew followed around a bunch of different families, and used the footage from the one that survived to make the film.

You have a point to a certain extent. I would agree if the new husband didn't die just to make way for the ex-husband to come back into the family and War of the Worlds, the son should have died in my view, but I will let the other 2 slide.

Also, its not just that they survived, they had a serious series of near misses and unprecedented luck. I find it hard to not call that plot armor, when survival is the plot of the movie lol. I actually expected the new husband to die while watching it, haha.
 
To my knowledge, Chief himself isn't actually special. It's just that the Prometheans always knew that someone would eventually show up with his skillset and mental configuration (AKA wouldn't fall into a husk after seeing some real shit). It's less a prophecy and more like a pretty educated guess for the future.

If after seeing the first plane drop a bomb in WW1, I exclaimed, "One day, there will be a bomb that can level cities." you wouldn't think that Fatboy and Little Man were actually some destined things. I would just be extending what I know to a future event that I found likely.

Your bomb analogy is actually a solid one I might steal, because yeah the amount of people I hear who say "OMG the Librarian created Chief!" and freak out is amazingly high. You can fault Halo 4 for not being clearer, I suppose, but especially with all the lore around and since then they've never tried to suggest otherwise.

Ancient humanity was very similar to 26th century humanity; if anything humanity would have gotten to where it is with no prompting sooner rather than later, as things like power armor and artificial intelligence seem pretty basic technologies.
 
Stranger Things
Filled with a bunch of instances where Eleven magically saves the day, ie; Mike and the cliff. Also Hopper not being killed, even the second time breaking into the facility and being able to punch his way out of about a dozen situations, haha yikes.

Let's also not forget Korra getting ALL of her bending back for no reason at the end of S1.

FUCK Korra.

Haha. I really wanted them to not be able to restore bending to anyone. It would have been such an interesting series long plot line, how benders had to learn to live without this piece of themselves and how society adjusted. As well.. the whole benders vs non-benders thing just seemed to fade away after season 2.. but there were likely thousands of people that felt like second class citizens in Republic City.
 
I would also like to add the main character in The Asterisk Wars (whatever the hell his name is). Please refer to Digibro's godlike breakdown of this show. We could probably put every single light novel character in this thread now that I think about it.


This right here.

Also, I just finished Aldnoah Zero yesterday and this fucker gives Kira a run for his money.

aldnoah_zero_01_2.jpg


Survives a goddamn bullet to the eye

Man, am I glad I dropped that show like a hot pocket fresh out of the microwave.

A few from Danganronpa - one for each mainline entry even, and all to do with good (or bad) luck.

Trigger-Happy Havoc:
Makoto Naegi's luck saves him from execution; in fact, being chosen for execution puts him in a safe-ish place and creates the moment to strike against the mastermind of the plot. He also in the first episode finds his bathroom door to be broken in such a way that you need to open it in a very certain way - thereby proving he couldn't have been the killer, as the doorknob was removed with a screwdriver to get in.

Goodbye Despair:
This is where the real shit comes in. Nagito Komaeda is ridiculously lucky. In the main plot, he intends to have himself be killed as a sacrifice in order to advance the killing game, but instead he is saved, and another person dies in his place. He wins a game of Russian roulette with five chambers loaded. The worse thing to happen to him is that he ultimately dies in the fifth chapter, but his death is literally the result of his desire to be killed. He is indisputably one of the most bullshit lucky characters I've ever seen. In his backstory, it is also shown that his bad luck usually rewards him. Gets in a plane crash with his parents - survives and is a millionaire from his inheritance. Gets kidnapped and held for ransom, finds a winning lottery ticket.

The End of Hope's Peak Academy:
Izuru Kamakura, the likely most powerful character in the franchise. He has all ultimate abilities, including luck, and while we do not see much of it, we did just see him survive getting shot due to the gun jamming.

At least they have the justification of being the ultimate lucky students.
 
Stranger Things
Filled with a bunch of instances where Eleven magically saves the day, ie; Mike and the cliff. Also Hopper not being killed, even the second time breaking into the facility and being able to punch his way out of about a dozen situations, haha yikes.

If you are going for Stranger Things than have to be the
Nancy Wheeler ...she meet the monster THREE TIMES without a physical scratch
 
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