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[DarkOxygen]

Wait, weren't the parents officially cleared around a decade ago based on new scientific evidence, with apologies and all? Or were there further developments? Things are extra tough to parse now since the mother died.

Interested to know the answer here, as the above was my latest understanding, as well.

 

[Psychotic_Mantis]

I remember something from some old thread on GAF i think, here are the links:

http://de.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

https://de.scribd.com/document/13165990/Dialogue-With-Hidden-Hand-Self-Proclaimed-Illuminati-Insider

https://de.scribd.com/document/23088792/Illuminator13-Opportunity-Knocks-Again-v1-0-2009-Eng-PDF

Was there ever anything else posted in regards to this? I remember reading these around the time they were posted and was intrigued but ultimately felt they were just elaborate hoaxes. Any more information into who the "insiders" were?

 

[Grizzlyjin]

The unknown individuals and people who faked their identity stories in here are the ones that interest me the most.

 

[zoukka]

Wait... what the fuck?

I mean he just killed 300 kids. There's a loving, gentle man underneath all that societal pressure.

 

[Alexgecaro]

Anyone knows what happened to the reptilians Edward Snowden said were living under the earth according to some documents he took? Was that proven false already or what the heck?

 

[Matty77]

Interested to know the answer here, as the above was my latest understanding, as well.

Eh, I forget the details but it was recent after the mother died and it was an independent source who claimed "proof" from years ago but none was given, and the main debunking question was if this info exsisted years ago that would have exonerated the mother how come nothing was said until after she died.

The whole issue is such a weird case with weird evidence and a horribly botched investigation. It was either the Mother, Father, brother or a combo of the three but we will never know and no one will ever pay for that crime. Really sad all the way around.

Just googled before posting, it was a private investigator hired by the parents claiming it was a worker, saying the man confessed( no one else says this) and other sketchy "evidence".

His story was told to the Daily Mail. You be the judge.

 

[RedSonja]

The Double-slit experiment is by far the most interesting mystery around. Quantum mechanics is mind bending stuff.

Here's a pretty simplified explanation but nobody really understands anyway.

WTF??

 

[Valjean Lafitte]

Anyone knows what happened to the reptilians Edward Snowden said were living under the earth according to some documents he took? Was that proven false already or what the heck?

Uh, what? If Edward Snowden believes in the reptilian conspiracy, that's news to me.

 

[exmachina64]

Anyone knows what happened to the reptilians Edward Snowden said were living under the earth according to some documents he took? Was that proven false already or what the heck?

Trying too hard.

 

[Wray]

The Cauldrons in Siberia have always fascinated me.

http://scaredyet.net/the-mysterious-cauldrons-from-siberias-valley-of-death/

First thought is Cold War bunker with lots of radiation. But these have been around long before the Cold War apparently.

 

[kaiju]

Interested to know the answer here, as the above was my latest understanding, as well.

The housekeeper claimed Patsy Ramsey killed JonBenet.

Berke Ramsey (the son) is scheduled to break his silence to Dr. Phil which will air in September, perhaps we'll know more then.

Seriously though, if a kidnapper really did break into the house while the family was home, kidnap JonBenet, leave a 2-page ransom note, and then return to the house hours later to tie up her dead body...then he/she is a true ninja.

 

[Catshade]

The whole issue is such a weird case with weird evidence and a horribly botched investigation. It was either the Mother, Father, brother or a combo of the three but we will never know and no one will ever pay for that crime. Really sad all the way around.

Berke Ramsey (the son) is scheduled to break his silence to Dr. Phil which will air in September, perhaps we'll know more then.

The crazy thing is that her brother (who was 9 years old at the time) was legitimately considered as a suspect.

 

[Mascot]

The crazy thing is that her brother (who was 9 years old at the time) was legitimately considered as a suspect.

I'd be amazed if he wasn't, to be honest. Suspicion is immediately focussed on family members in cases like this, as there's statistically a good chance they were involved.

 

[Bounceounce]

I don't get how The East Area Rapist never got caught, I get that he targeted the victims and even removed the ammo from the guns in order to not get shot but also to play with their heads but he was just one guy and the population knew about him and yet he kept committing these crimes right under their and the police's noses.

Absolutely ridiculous case, the guy has to have had nerves of steal to home invade as brazenly as he did.
Sit around in their houses and eat, leave the men tied up, walk around nude (and sometimes escape or leave nude, one to covered I'm blood), etc etc.
To keep doing it knowing the entire force was after you, scaring people so much that they'd see you walking the streets at night and just hide.
He got chased by a fucking fbi agent, would outrun the cops on bikes, and has soooo many close calls where they didn't find out it was him.
Dudes a demon.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

How am I still single is the mystery for the ages. It's absolutely baffling. I'm just so great.

 

[Rawket Lawnchair]

Posting, because it is an amazing thread and I want to take another look at it.

 

[radioactivez0r]

Absolutely ridiculous case, the guy has to have had nerves of steal to home invade as brazenly as he did.
Sit around in their houses and eat, leave the men tied up, walk around nude (and sometimes escape or leave nude, one to covered I'm blood), etc etc.
To keep doing it knowing the entire force was after you, scaring people so much that they'd see you walking the streets at night and just hide.
He got chased by a fucking fbi agent, would outrun the cops on bikes, and has soooo many close calls where they didn't find out it was him.
Dudes a demon.

I had not heard of this case before, and looking it up I came across information on an FBI agent who works with the Sacramento office who is heading up the investigation, and I'm pretty sure I was in Boy Scouts with him. Weird.

 

[wenis]

If you guys want to read more about the Golden State Killer, Michelle McNamara's profile is still up at Los Angeles Magazine. She is Patton Oswalt's late wife (passed away earlier this year in her sleep).

Truly crazy stuff, it all being collected like this. She was also in the process of writing a book on the killer as well (which Patton has stated in his first written piece since her death, he and the rest of her collaborators will take all of her notes and finish the book).

start here:
Los Angeles Magazine - Editors Note
The Five Most Popular Myths About the Golden State Killer Case
Profile of a Killer
In The Footsteps of a Killer: The Writer’s Cut
In the Footsteps of a Killer
Golden State Killer: The Making of a Manhunt
Update: In the Footsteps of a Killer
NEW EVIDENCE: Investigators Release a Third Recording Believed to Be of the Golden State Killer’s Voice – NSFW
Golden State Killer Update: One Victim’s Family Responds to Our Coverage of the Cold Case
UPDATE: Investigators Have a New Lead on the Golden State Killer
UPDATE: Was The Golden State Killer a Cowboy?

 

[Pancake Mix]

If you guys want to read more about the Golden State Killer, Michelle McNamara's profile is still up at Los Angeles Magazine. She is Patton Oswalt's late wife (passed away earlier this year in her sleep).

Truly crazy stuff, it all being collected like this. She was also in the process of writing a book on the killer as well (which Patton has stated in his first written piece since her death, he and the rest of her collaborators will take all of her notes and finish the book).

start here:
Los Angeles Magazine - Editors Note
The Five Most Popular Myths About the Golden State Killer Case
Profile of a Killer
In The Footsteps of a Killer: The Writer’s Cut
In the Footsteps of a Killer
Golden State Killer: The Making of a Manhunt
Update: In the Footsteps of a Killer
NEW EVIDENCE: Investigators Release a Third Recording Believed to Be of the Golden State Killer’s Voice – NSFW
Golden State Killer Update: One Victim’s Family Responds to Our Coverage of the Cold Case
UPDATE: Investigators Have a New Lead on the Golden State Killer
UPDATE: Was The Golden State Killer a Cowboy?

Very unfortunate this psychopath has still never been caught. I think he has enough names though, East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker makes it clear we aren't talking about Richard Ramirez. I hope this is the last one and he's caught. Been following this cold case since I saw a TV special on it. The number of victims and how relatively recent it was (1976-1986) is alarming. Here is a fantastic resource made up of composites with context applied to them created by an individual from a board dedicated to catching this guy.

https://earons.wordpress.com/

One thing, however: the posting "The Mask (7/5/79)" is debatable because, though that poster believes the event happened, many people think that even wasn't the EAR/ONS/GSK as he attacked an apartment and did not already have his mask on, both unusual for him. In other words, it might have been made up. Otherwise it's a top-notch resource, someone must know this guy. If they do and he is captured and convicted, there's a $50,000 reward from the FBI.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/help-us-catch-the-east-area-rapist

 

[wenis]

Well now I know what I'm doing for the rest of the night.

 

[Host Samurai]

Blank Room Soup. What's the deal with that video?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VMRAGxjOoA

 

[HTupolev]

WTF??

It's partly "WTF??" because that video is pushing the Von Neumann-Wigner interpretation of quantum mechanics, and sneakily neglects to discuss what's meant by terms like "observe." It's less about the science of quantum mechanics, and more about trying to sound spooky by misrepresenting the philosophy around quantum mechanics.

PBS Space Time did a much better introduction, and they'll be talking about early observation and such next week:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-MNSLsjjdo

 

[Mascot]

Blank Room Soup. What's the deal with that video?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VMRAGxjOoA

Pretentious 'art' designed to be mysterious and unsettling..?

 

[Mdk7]

Albert Fish

Jesus H.

Regarding that fucked up story, I'd really like to know what was inside his last statement.
Of course, we'll never know.

At a meeting with reporters after the execution, Fish's lawyer James Dempsey revealed that he was in possession of his client's "final statement". This amounted to several pages of hand-written notes that Fish apparently penned in the hours just prior to his death. When pressed by the assembled journalists to reveal the document's contents, Dempsey refused, stating, "I will never show it to anyone. It was the most filthy string of obscenities that I have ever read."

 

[Tekniqs]

Albert Fish

Jesus H.

This Albert Fish....this guy's a real jerk

 

[Mascot]

Seems there's quite a few, ahem, Afishionados in this thread.

Macabre - Mr Albert Fish (Was Children Your Favorite Dish)

He loved to hear the little kids scream
His instruments of hell did gleam
A box with a cleaver, saw and a knife
He used them to cut up their innocent lives
Mr. Albert Fish, was children your favourite dish? x4
He took 12-year old Grace Budd home
And then he sawed right through her bones
With carrots and onions he made a stew
Her body parts was also used
Mr. Albert Fish, was children your favourite dish? x4
With his fist in the air, he'd scream he was Christ
He'd do things to kids that weren't too nice
He'd lure them in and eat them up
Albert Fish, you were such a fucking nut
Mr. Albert Fish, was children your favourite dish? x4

 

[eddievanclaylen]

Seems there's quite a few, ahem, Afishionados in this thread.

Macabre - Mr Albert Fish (Was Children Your Favorite Dish)

Fish seemed like a nice old man and people believed his lies,
But Albert was a child eating shark in disguise.

Macabre are my favorites. Theyve always wanted to do an entire Fish album, too

 

[elfinke]

Until information about an object is known, i.e. a measurement is made, either by a person, a machine, whatever, anything that can determine something about the object, then it exists as a wave, a superposition of all possible states it can be in. When the measurement is made, for example the particles position is determined somehow, it can't at that point exist as a superposition of all possible states, that's what they mean by collapsing the wave function. It goes from "it's possibly anywhere" to "it's specifically here, right now" and as a result it behaves like a single, discrete object, not a range of possible states.

The double slit experiment just demonstrates this, the superposition means it's possible the object goes through both slits at the same time, because nothing is known about the object to determine that it can't be doing that. Imagine that to go through either left or right slit is 50% each, if you checked at a any given time. Since no one can say which for sure all possibilities are being expressed, so it's effectively going through both at the same time, as a result you get an interference pattern. You check and find it goes through the either left or right, 100% sure because that's where you find it, at that point it's then 0% possible to go through the other slit, it can't be somewhere it's defined not to be. The pattern you see reflects this change in behaviour, 2 bands, the only 2 possibilities that exist for informationally known particles to reach the screen.

It's got nothing to do with the universe being a simulation or anything like that. The craziest thing from it all is that at the quantum level everything exists as a state of probabilities, the concept of solid matter doesn't exist because even things that were thought to be solid, like electrons, exhibit wave like properties. But all that is counter intuitive because at our life scale that's not how it behaves, in other words, the wave functions at our scale are collapsed quite sufficiently to say our reality is real enough.

Hope this helps a bit but it is somewhat tough to explain.

Quoting in full, as this is a pretty great cliff note explanation for anyone who may have missed it. Quantum level physics is so wonderfully brilliant.

 

[thetrin]

Murder of JonBenet Ramsey. A six-year old girl was missing from her home, with two-and-a-half pages of ransom letter found on the kitchen staircase. Eight hours later, her body was found...in the basement of her home.

My dad actually did business with John Ramsey years ago, and knew the family pretty well. We actually heard about it before it became national news. I'll never really know what happened there.

 

[brainchild]

Until information about an object is known, i.e. a measurement is made, either by a person, a machine, whatever, anything that can determine something about the object, then it exists as a wave, a superposition of all possible states it can be in. When the measurement is made, for example the particles position is determined somehow, it can't at that point exist as a superposition of all possible states, that's what they mean by collapsing the wave function. It goes from "it's possibly anywhere" to "it's specifically here, right now" and as a result it behaves like a single, discrete object, not a range of possible states.

The double slit experiment just demonstrates this, the superposition means it's possible the object goes through both slits at the same time, because nothing is known about the object to determine that it can't be doing that. Imagine that to go through either left or right slit is 50% each, if you checked at a any given time. Since no one can say which for sure all possibilities are being expressed, so it's effectively going through both at the same time, as a result you get an interference pattern. You check and find it goes through the either left or right, 100% sure because that's where you find it, at that point it's then 0% possible to go through the other slit, it can't be somewhere it's defined not to be. The pattern you see reflects this change in behaviour, 2 bands, the only 2 possibilities that exist for informationally known particles to reach the screen.

It's got nothing to do with the universe being a simulation or anything like that. The craziest thing from it all is that at the quantum level everything exists as a state of probabilities, the concept of solid matter doesn't exist because even things that were thought to be solid, like electrons, exhibit wave like properties. But all that is counter intuitive because at our life scale that's not how it behaves, in other words, the wave functions at our scale are collapsed quite sufficiently to say our reality is real enough.

Hope this helps a bit but it is somewhat tough to explain.

Great explanation of the double slit experiment.

This experiment is actually what started to help me understand how the cosmos could come from nothing (the biggest mystery of all). Reality doesn't really care if we can comprehend it or not, and quantum fluctuations are simply inherent to a reality of 'nothingness' with all of its probable states.

 

[Bounceounce]

Yeah how he managed to always escape doesn't seem to be just luck, he was being chased by bloodhounds and he only got away because there was a puddle or small river and they lost track. Guy was too ahead of everyone to the point of leaving tons of DNA behind and yet he never got caught.

I think I read that he would leap from roof to roof as well, ugh and the story about him raping the wife of the guy who said he would never let the earons do it at the communities.

Nothing scares me more than home invasions, it's like the ultimate form of boundary crossing to me, being able to never feel safe in the place you rest, and he would sneak in multiple times before the actual attack?
He's my nightmare.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

Seems there's quite a few, ahem, Afishionados in this thread.

Macabre - Mr Albert Fish (Was Children Your Favorite Dish)

Church of Misery - The Gray Man

 

[Always-honest]

Regarding that fucked up story, I'd really like to know what was inside his last statement.
Of course, we'll never know.

Wow, what a fucking story... Crazy fucker

 

[Always-honest]

Until information about an object is known, i.e. a measurement is made, either by a person, a machine, whatever, anything that can determine something about the object, then it exists as a wave, a superposition of all possible states it can be in. When the measurement is made, for example the particles position is determined somehow, it can't at that point exist as a superposition of all possible states, that's what they mean by collapsing the wave function. It goes from "it's possibly anywhere" to "it's specifically here, right now" and as a result it behaves like a single, discrete object, not a range of possible states.

The double slit experiment just demonstrates this, the superposition means it's possible the object goes through both slits at the same time, because nothing is known about the object to determine that it can't be doing that. Imagine that to go through either left or right slit is 50% each, if you checked at a any given time. Since no one can say which for sure all possibilities are being expressed, so it's effectively going through both at the same time, as a result you get an interference pattern. You check and find it goes through the either left or right, 100% sure because that's where you find it, at that point it's then 0% possible to go through the other slit, it can't be somewhere it's defined not to be. The pattern you see reflects this change in behaviour, 2 bands, the only 2 possibilities that exist for informationally known particles to reach the screen.

It's got nothing to do with the universe being a simulation or anything like that. The craziest thing from it all is that at the quantum level everything exists as a state of probabilities, the concept of solid matter doesn't exist because even things that were thought to be solid, like electrons, exhibit wave like properties. But all that is counter intuitive because at our life scale that's not how it behaves, in other words, the wave functions at our scale are collapsed quite sufficiently to say our reality is real enough.

Hope this helps a bit but it is somewhat tough to explain.

Indeed. Well said.
In short, it's all waves untill we interpret those waves.
Something like that?

 

[Sentilly]

I don't think this mine exploration vid has been posted before but it always seemed a bit weird in an interesting way.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCy8iWxf1Us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYbrlG4BAU

 

[obin_gam]

Last Podcast On The Left is doing a three part series on Fish starting this week!
First episode here: https://soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode-234-albert-fish-part-i-you-asked-for-this

 

[Matty77]

Last Podcast On The Left is doing a three part series on Fish starting this week!
First episode here: https://soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode-234-albert-fish-part-i-you-asked-for-this

Was just going to post this when I saw the thread came back up. Almost did it yesterday but did not want to search for the thread.

 

[Mascot]

Last Podcast On The Left is doing a three part series on Fish starting this week!
First episode here: https://soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode-234-albert-fish-part-i-you-asked-for-this

Oooh. That'll do nicely for my evening mountain biking around Spooky Woods.

 

[FO-totality]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-hertz_whale

I don't know if this qualifies as a mystery because they've been tracking the whale, but they don't know why it is the way it is.

Wow, that's really interesting. Sounds like a hybrid is the most likely one? A simple mutation wouldn't modify both behavior and the song.

It's weird that such a mystery existed for literally decades but no one had an expedition to find this thing. I guess the ocean is too damn big and there's no money in it.

EDIT: I guess there was a recent expedition for a documentary. They claim "you'll have to watch it to see if we found it" which obviously means they didn't.

One of my favorite ambient albums actually uses the 52hz whale's song and credits it on vocals. Its heartbreakingly beautiful, especially the titular track which is far-and-away the best track on it.

 

[bigboss370]

Tamam Shud is the most interesting for me. It starts off weird, but then gets straight up bonkers. Really surprised it hasn't become a film or something.

go damn, this is amazing!


are there any good documentaries out there on this kind of topic in general? some of the things in this thread are really fascinating

 

[SlipperyFishes]

I read this for the first time in my early teens and it kinda stuck with me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Vault

http://www.slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/awesomemysteries/movingcoffins.htm

Get this:

The tomb belonged to the Chase family, a family infamous for unusual behavior. The father of the clan, Colonel Thomas Chase, was so vicious that his slaves threatened to kill him.

Early in the 1800s, Colonel Chase purchased a large crypt in Christ Church cemetery. The first Chase family member buried in the tomb was the baby of the family, Mary Chase. She was placed in the tomb within a heavy metal casket in February of 1808.

In July of 1812, the teenaged daughter Dorcas Chase was buried. She had starved herself to death, and some say she killed herself due to the cruelties of her father.

Colonel Chase himself died in August (possibly a suicide) and was placed into the tomb in a metal coffin so heavy it took several men to carry it. When they opened the tomb for his internment, they noticed that Mary’s coffin had moved from its original spot and was standing on its head near a corner of the tomb. Suspecting some kind of malicious mischief by somebody(ies) on the island, they righted the casket and made sure the heavy stone door of the tomb was sealed extra tight.

Two burials in 1816 again found the coffins inexplicably moved from their original positions.

After one of them, according to “The People’s Almanac,” a woman in the graveyard heard frightening sounds coming from the Chase tomb. Her horse became so terrified that it began foaming at the mouth, and a few days later several horses in the area went insane and threw themselves into the bay.

In July of 1819, a relative was buried in the crypt and it was discovered that the chaos in the crypt had repeated itself. The governor of Barbados had attended this funeral and was determined to find out what was going on. When the caskets had been put right and the tomb was being resealed, the governor put impressions of his signet ring into the wet cement to ensure nobody could go into the crypt late at night and move the coffins around. Additionally, sand was sprinkled on the floor to capture any evidence of trespassers.

In April of 1820 the tomb was opened for the final time. The signet ring’s marks were still clear in the cement, showing that nobody had entered the crypt by the front door, the only entrance to the tomb. The men opening the tomb had trouble opening the door, as there was something pressing against the door from the inside. More men were called in to help with the effort and the door was finally opened to reveal Colonel Chase’s casket blocking the door and the other coffins scattered around the room. There were no marks in the sand on the floor.

The governor had had enough. He called for each coffin in the tomb to be buried elsewhere in the cemetery and the crypt has been empty ever since.

 

[Megasoum]

The Annecy shootings in France.
No firm leads on the case but lots of theory's from family will disputes, UK nuclear secrets to Swiss bank accounts linked to Saddam Hussein.

A documentary about it called "The Alps Murders" was added to Canadian Netflix in the last couple of days about this case.

The documentary itself is not very good (very melodramatic with reconstitutions) but still interesting.

 

[PadWarrior]

I read this for the first time in my early teens and it kinda stuck with me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Vault

http://www.slightlywarped.com/crapfactory/awesomemysteries/movingcoffins.htm

Get this:

Wow that is creepy.

 

[Forerunner]

The Dyatlov Pass incident is interesting.

 

[TissueBox]

Just want to say this kinda thread is like diving into a bucket of bliss for me, you could get lost in the unexplained phenomena of this world for hours!! ^^' Mmm-mm good.

At first I thought a WorldMysteriesGAF community thing would be cool, but when you think about it if they haven't been solved for years and are as validly insolvable as can be you can't really have that much else to talk about beyond speculation, lol. >_< Unless we were like a science research group.

BUT anyway to add a recent tidbit of interest to the topic I elect the missing MH370 flight, whose search is supposed to be ending in the next couple weeks I think. It's not really the missing flight itself that takes the show here, though, but just the big vastness of the ocean -- it really reminds you of just how little of the ocean even our modern-day machines can fathom and have regulated. Kinda makes you wonder when the human race will get on that.

EDIT: Okay just found an earlier mention of it!! >_< Ah well. xP

 

[Juno]

One of my favorite ambient albums actually uses the 52hz whale's song and credits it on vocals. Its heartbreakingly beautiful, especially the titular track which is far-and-away the best track on it.

Lowercase Noises is one of my favourite artists/composers. I love that he made an album based on a lonely whale. Everything on Migratory Patterns is worth listening if you like electric/ambient music.

More on topic: I can't figure if the documentary 52: The Search for the Loneliest Whale is out yet? It was supposed to have been shown at Sundance... last year?!

 

[FO-totality]

Lowercase Noises is one of my favourite artists/composers. I love that he made an album based on a lonely whale. Everything on Migratory Patterns is worth listening if you like electric/ambient music.

More on topic: I can't figure if the documentary 52: The Search for the Loneliest Whale is out yet? It was supposed to have been shown at Sundance... last year?!

Dunno, but true story: I saw Andy (LN) and Hotel Neon on their recent house show tour. Great time, great beer.