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MotorStorm Review - PSX Extreme

The racing options are:

You can create your own room
No password protection
Game Name
Lap Setting
Time of Day Setting
Track Select
Catch up on/off
Vehicle Types

That's it.
 
AlphaSnake said:
The racing options are:

You can create your own room
No password protection
Game Name
Lap Setting
Time of Day Setting
Track Select
Catch up on/off
Vehicle Types

That's it.
Unacceptable.

And let me guess, there's no offline Quick Race that offers any of these options?
 
It really bothers me how bare bones Motorstorm is. They've created one of the most intense and satisfying racing engines I've ever played with...and damaged it through poor progression, limited options, and punishing AI. The game can be SOOOOO incredibly exciting...but its appeal is cut down by these issues.

This is why I agree with most of the scores. It's an "8" game for me, but it could have been better. I hope they realize this and create a sequel that goes balls out with features.
 
BuddyC said:
Unacceptable.

And let me guess, there's no offline Quick Race that offers any of these options?

Nooooooooooope.

Some jerkwad is currently flaming me over on PS3Forums. They posted my link over there...one of the replies is hilarious. I'd love to cross post, but I don't want to risk a punishment here. Go see the PS3 Games section. The guy not only ranted about my review, but he also wrote me an email thats like 3 times longer which I will post shortly. :lol
 
Meier said:
Get the **** OUT OF HERE. GET THE **** OUT! Primal Scream are legends. Alpha has no taste, confirmed.

Primal Scream suck. They have a rock song called "Country Girl". It's the most abysmally bad crap I've ever heard. I'd rather listen to Creed. And I detest Creed.
 
AlphaSnake said:
Primal Scream suck. They have a rock song called "Country Girl". It's the most abysmally bad crap I've ever heard. I'd rather listen to Creed. And I detest Creed.

Country Girl is decent enough -- not one of their best songs though admittedly. Definitely better than pretty much any American rock in recent years though. It has a funny Rod Stewart vibe to it and the video is just plain weird. What's the other track on there?

Here are some classic tracks from the Scream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZO-Gbxx60 (Loaded)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RyBUrqtcA (Rocks)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKFYtUJFYVE (Movin' On Up)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxS0MsnZ2o0 (Kowalski)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxS0MsnZ2o0 (Swastika Eyes)
 
AltogetherAndrews said:
Now, why was this not touched upon in the reviews that praised the online component?

Kind of slipped my mind, and it doesn't really bother me TOO much. Really, the online is fun, though.
 
Meier said:
Country Girl is decent enough -- not one of their best songs though admittedly. Definitely better than pretty much any American rock in recent years though. It has a funny Rod Stewart vibe to it and the video is just plain weird. What's the other track on there?

Nah, Country Girl isn't in the game. The two songs are:

Primal Scream - Dolls (Sweet Rock 'N' Roll)

Primal Scream - The 99th Floor

So bad...

Edit: Awesome tittle edit! =D
 
Dear Sony,

Please give Wipeout enough time to deliver on the dream of DCharlie and myself. A Chromehounds-level F9000 League Online Experience.

All My Love,
Benjamin.
 
It's funny how Resistance online is leagues ahead of 1st party Sony offerings. Hopefully Sony patches all of that before interest wears down.

Motorstorm has voice chat at least. F1 doesn't even have that
 
My review has officially pissed off some insane fanboy...here are the emails from "Generic Gamer123":

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=60883


The future of gaming is online play. This is obvious. I'd much rather have a "learn how to play" single player game ... and an amazing online game then vice-versa.

What surprises me is that considering this is such an awesome looking game that is so much fun, that it get's anything below an 8.5.

It seems that Arnold Katayev doesn't recognize the importance of having solid online play. If there was no online play I could see Motorstorm US getting an 8, but with it it surely deserves at least an 8.5

This seems to me like Arnold looked at http://www.gamerankings.com, saw that no one had given Motorstorm US a 7.9 rating, and picked that ... then found a reason to justify it.

Considering the fact that if you add up all of his ratings for Motorstorm it totals 49.5 ... divided by 6 is 8.25, I find it mathematically odd that he gives it a 7.9

And whatever happened to a game getting points for being original? I mean there are so many of the GTA/Ridge Racer wanna bees out there ... maybe some of these reviewers don't know how to handle something that doesn't play by the established rules.

Single player or online, if you invite friends over you can be guaranteed they'll repeatedly ask to play Motorstorm then any other game out there because it's visually more appealing and out right more fun then most of what's floating around.


--


Arnold, being forced to learn something new can be more fullfilling then you may know. That's why certain vehicles are selected in the single player mode, so you can learn the others. Without this setup players would be too one sided ... so Evolution is actually doing us all a favor with setting Motorstorm US up this way. Motorstorm US is pretty ground breaking ... and it's somewhat dissapointing to see you ignore this fact. Compared to the copy-cat racing games that we are bombarded with ... I would hope you could appreciate something with some originality to it.

I disagree with parts of your review, and that's just how it is. From where I stand, I see people reacting more positively to Motorstorm then I have to any game in a long time ... and it just seems wrong for you to give this anything below an 8.5 - especially considering the average of your own score was an 8.25

gg123


My reply:

My review scores aren't averages. I weigh gameplay the most, and replay value the third. Those two brought down the overall score.

You can ramble on all you like, but the fact is that MS isn't worth $60 for a single-player experience. A 7.9 isn't a bad score. This game is original. It is fun. And so it doesn't get graded a 6.0, or something. But there are no other modes, no variation, and limited selection of tracks. This game is missing the standard, rudimentary mechanics that every racing game is supposed to have.

If you can justify a purchase, then more power to you. I said it at the very end, the choice is yours to make.

And his reply:

I love how you call it rambling ... challenge a reviewer and like usual they insult you. So typical.

You're right though ... MS isn't worth $60 ... it's worth more like $80 ... or $100 ... games are cheap these days compared to inflation ... ie how the price of movie tickets have gone up. The R&D and quality mixed with fun factor and replayability make Motorstorm US at least and 8.5 - there is no disputing this.

You are typical with complaining about the tracks ... there is plenty variety with time of day and multiple vehicles ... what's more is that the tracks are quality tracks ... quality is much more important then quantity in this case.

It seems you unjustifiably game Motorstorm US a low review and my review of your review is that you just didn't do a good job in appropriately explaining yourself.

I give your review a C, sorry :/

:lol :lol :lol

MotorStorm is worth $100!
 
Crackerman16 said:
No, the party system hasn't been there since launch. Trust me, dude...

Resistance's online Team games SUCKED ASS before the patch. Close to nobody played Team games and just stuck with Free For All, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WAY TO KEEP PLAYING WITH YOUR FRIENDS/CLAN (unless you used a different communication method to let them know when you're joining a Team game). After the DOWNLOADABLE patch, more and more people started playing Team games and now, I would say it's more played than FFA games.

This is getting off topic, but seriously dude, quit trying to correct me. >.>

nm.

Screw this shit. *Adds Motorstorm to Gamefly Que*. I was getting this game solely for the online play. Ain't worth the $60 if online is basically non-existent.
 
JB1981 said:
nm.

Screw this shit. *Adds Motorstorm to Gamefly Que*. I was getting this game solely for the online play. Ain't worth the $60 if online is basically non-existent.

No dude, you don't understand: it's worth $80, if not $100. :'(
 
SamBishop said:
The online is a goddamn joke. You can pick your server, join a game, check out the stats of the people on your server (which is limited to win/loss records, most/least favorite vehicle, crashes, and quit games) or create your own game. There are no buddy lists, no ignore lists, no way to mute players, no way to invite friends into a game -- hell, from what I can tell, it doesn't even store the people you've met recently in the XMB.

Everything about it screams "rush job." And yet, it's still fun. Says something about the core gameplay -- especially when there aren't half a dozen ****s nudging you into rocks or slingshotting past you on the last corner after you've run three perfect laps.



Agreed, it was an awesome review. And this is the game to own for graphics whores. I can't get over how goddamn amazing it looks. The view from the Tenderizer track with all the billowing flags over a huge valley is just... drooooool. And this is a first-gen game.


People get insulted too much, easily. MS seems like lots of fun, just not perfect.
I wouldnt be suprised if buddy lists and such get added with next firmware update, etc.

We already know that tracks are coming to PSN.

Basics are super, all they need to improve is content and that should be easy via PSN.

I still want F1 much more than MS, no matter what.
 
You know, I was honestly thinking Motorstorm was going to replace Resistance as the game of choice for GAF Night.

But now? Not so much. Long live the wedge!

I'm still going to buy this, but my expectations have been tempered.
 
It seems you unjustifiably game Motorstorm US a low review and my review of your review is that you just didn't do a good job in appropriately explaining yourself.

I give your review a C, sorry :/

don't worry Alpha, by most scales, a C review is still "worth reading."
 
Would it be possible for the online options such as buddy list and invite stuff that it doesn't have implemented be unavailable to us at this time? In other words, a firmware update may fix the problems such as the buddy invite, buddy system and all that fun stuff. Obviously this is my opinion but we know that the 1.6 or 2.0 patch is suppose to be pretty big.

Since without buddy invite and all that stuff, it's such a pain. Insomniac has shown us how helpful these features are for online gaming. Resistance has such an awesome system, still needs a little work but partying is such an awesome idea.
 
How can you not have a friends list? How can you not? I rag on online DS games that don't have friends lists.

Poor form, Sony, REALLY poor form.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
How can you not have a friends list? How can you not? I rag on online DS games that don't have friends lists.

Poor form, Sony, REALLY poor form.

I guess we had to get *some* bad news this week.

Screw it, I'll just play God of War 2.
 
lorddct said:
Would it be possible for the online options such as buddy list and invite stuff that it doesn't have implemented be unavailable to us at this time? In other words, a firmware update may fix the problems such as the buddy invite, buddy system and all that fun stuff. Obviously this is my opinion but we know that the 1.6 or 2.0 patch is suppose to be pretty big.

Since without buddy invite and all that stuff, it's such a pain. Insomniac has shown us how helpful these features are for online gaming. Resistance has such an awesome system, still needs a little work but partying is such an awesome idea.
we'll know soon enough i guess.
 
Alpha, that doesn't sound like the first angry letter that reader has sent to a reviewer.

I think I'll take a wait and see on this game instead of buying day 1. Though, the demo gameplay is pretty damn compelling and hard to resist.
 
tanod said:
Alpha, that doesn't sound like the first angry letter that reader has sent to a reviewer.

I think I'll take a wait and see on this game instead of buying day 1. Though, the demo gameplay is pretty damn compelling and hard to resist.

I have a feeling the guy is one of the developers, for some reason. Kind of weird he'd go out of his way to write all of that in an email and then more on a forum.
 
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AlphaSnake said:
I have a feeling the guy is one of the developers, for some reason. Kind of weird he'd go out of his way to write all of that in an email and then more on a forum.
i hope a developer would understand that doing a straight average of component scores is even more stupid than scores themselves. i'm sure it's not a dev in that regard.

i hope not anyway.
 
tanod said:
Alpha, that doesn't sound like the first angry letter that reader has sent to a reviewer.

I think I'll take a wait and see on this game instead of buying day 1. Though, the demo gameplay is pretty damn compelling and hard to resist.
It's totally worth buying still.

The gameplay itself is absolutely fantastic. The game is a blast.

Nearly every issue stems from its poor handling of options and content. I enjoyed the demo quite a bit and have enjoyed the full game even more...but there is no doubt that there are serious issues with its progression system and lack of options (hence the scores).
 
ghostmind said:
If the online options are this poor, then i'm definitely reconsidering the purchase...

Does it mean, effectively, that you can't race with your friends unless their very quick to the menu and they can find your game?
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
Does it mean, effectively, that you can't race with your friends unless their very quick to the menu and they can find your game?
sounds that way. you'll have to tell them the name of the game and have them all hop in asap.
 
plagiarize said:
sounds that way. you'll have to tell them the name of the game and have them all hop in asap.

This is doable, but also a pain in the ass. I will try this out when the rental arrives from GF. :)
 
DenogginizerOS said:
This is doable, but also a pain in the ass. I will try this out when the rental arrives from GF. :)

The March update adds crossgame voice chat, right? That at least makes things more manageable. That's how I hooked up with all my chums in the Lost Planet Multi Demo.
 
It's a shame they won't update the Japanese version with online options. :\ I normally do not care for online multi in most games today, but Motorstorm is certainly one that would benefit greatly from it.
 
Wow, really sucks about the online!! !

I'm sure there will be ways to fix this, but psh....

At least we can expect patches and downloadable content, but I dislike how consoles are turning into PC games: Patches and updates are awesome and good, but they allow unfinished games to be rushed out too.

I guess in the end having DLC is worth it.
 
KTallguy said:
Wow, really sucks about the online!! !

I'm sure there will be ways to fix this, but psh....

At least we can expect patches and downloadable content, but I dislike how consoles are turning into PC games: Patches and updates are awesome and good, but they allow unfinished games to be rushed out too.

I guess in the end having DLC is worth it.

Well, sure Evolution left plenty of room for themself to fill with "extra" downloadable stuff :lol

The bad part is, we are gonna probably pay for something that was supposed to be there in the first place. Please boycot if that happens.
 
I was going to buy Motorstorm and rent GRAW 2. Heck, my primary motivation for getting my PS3 was to play Motorstorm, b/c I love arcade racing games. But this online crap is just awful. I can't play with my friends? I'm cancelling my preorder and switching to GRAW. I'll Gamefly MS, and maybe buy it later if they fix the online. Complete garbage Sony.
 
One of the things I love about this board is that I have met a ton of great people to play games with online. Whether it be Xbox Live or PSN, the games I have played have been great. I attribute this to the fact that most on GAF refrain from doing the many annoying things that random people do when you jump into a game without any "friends" present. This news about MotorStorm, unfortunately, just exposed this game to the one aspect of online play that I despise and I hope that a buddy list comes sooner than later.
 
One other point. A team-based gameplay mode would be AWESOME for MotorStorm. Imagine two teams squaring off against each other where the object of the game is for the one team's "runner" to cross the finish line before the other team's "runner". There would be one guy assigned to this task while the others' job was to block, protect, crash, etc. the other team and prevent them from disrupting the "runner's" progression.

:)
 
I'll be picking this up just for the MP, the SP is just a bonus! :lol

I cannot wait to knock people into rocks, or off cliffs, its going to be freaking awesome, especially with friends. Good times!@

Oh plus the game looks retardedly good on my setup.
 
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