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Moving advice: Seattle or Portland?
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Booze. Lots of booze.
Devolution
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Depends. There's definitely a bunch of gentrification going on, which is a difficult subject to tackle.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I moved to Portland from the south because people were nicer to me when I visited.
It's up to whether you prefer people actually being nice and tolerant and cool or if you just like them to be fake to your face. Not everyone's going to like you, but the people who do here will be legitimately fucking awesome to you.
lawlohwhat
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Yea, 'fuck you for ordering your coffee here' syndrome is pretty common. I think it's kind of nice that people here wear their disdain on their sleeve. Constant rain and a surfeit of post-adolescents with attachment disorders will do that to a city.
Devolution
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Man I'm going to the wrong coffee places. Been met with nothing but nice folks.
I been to both cities. I enjoy both. But if I had to choose, its Seattle all the way. Lovely city. But the biggest thing for ME is outside of Portland got nothing going for me. Washington itself I have friends and family around in the state itself, so I am definitely bias. Plus I love going to Alaska 
lawlohwhat
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It's because you use real american paper money, but I'll tell you what, nothing beats tipping your barber by the clink of an old fashioned slaver's token. Some just don't take kindly to that kind of creative problem solving
Seattle and the surrounding areas are still beautiful even when grey outside. You can go hiking comfortably well into Winter, it never gets too cold in the middle of it, and then for the rest you drink coffee, watch lots of TV and movies, and go out to the amazing restaurants and bars.
XANDER CAGE
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Mostly? Weirdly enough there's a sort of hyper-old-fashioned-red-state gauntlet surrounding Portland. There are also some sort of fake-ass nerd culture bullshit types who are scared of rap and the Chinese and whatnot, but that's everywhere. Portland is mostly pretty progressive.
Police in Portland are pretty bad. Although Seattle might be worse.
Pot is legal in Seattle!
santeesioux
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As a native Oregonian, i never understand when i see people freaking out about the pumping gas thing, isn't it nice you can be lazy and let someone else take care of it for you? Plus it creates a lot of jobs, and in this state, that's a good thing.
I hate it. It's always so awkward. If I'm on a long trip I want to get out of my car anyways and stretch my legs.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
As someone who's never had someone pump my gas for me before, the only thing I thought about was if I had to tip. Since that's not an issue, it sounds pretty sweet.
santeesioux
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Then go in the convenience station store, lol.
Oregon has some pretty kick ass rest stops too.
santeesioux
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I'm sure former Idaho senator Larry Craig can attest to that.
I have NO clue what that means and I am too lazu to google. or correct that spelling to lazy.
johnny_park
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My sister lives in Seattle and there is literally a coffee shop right next to her house. They like it. They get free internet from the coffee shop. Every time the coffee shop changes the password for the wifi they take their laptop down there order a coffee and get the new password.
Sometimes I just want to gas up and stretch my legs simultaneously and then get back on the road. Now I gotta stand there in awkward silence while some dude does a task that I've done thousands of times myself with no incident.
Alcotholic
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What are you? A hipster?
Portland
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Does it ever end up feeling too small to you? Or is it diverse enough that you never really care about it? Atlanta always had a good duality to it, Midtown felt small and tightknit but the surrounding areas were all spread out and full of stuff to do.
I think that's probably the best description of living in the Pacific Northwest I've ever heard.
Eppy Thatcher
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If you end up in Portland i'll smoke you a bowl and you'll drink lots of good beer. Fire on the mountain and the timbers and good hiking and a pretty decent balance between night and day life good times.
If you end up in seattle you'll get a lot of the same in a slightly larger and more generic way along with a little bit more disparity between the poor parts of the city and the rich as hell parts of the city.
Find the spot with the best job and try it out. As far as "sister cities" kind of go... the migration from one of these cities to another is probably the easiest out of any big 2 places in the country. They can be shockingly similar.
Timbers games are pretty fuckin awesome.
If you end up in seattle you'll get a lot of the same in a slightly larger and more generic way along with a little bit more disparity between the poor parts of the city and the rich as hell parts of the city.
Find the spot with the best job and try it out. As far as "sister cities" kind of go... the migration from one of these cities to another is probably the easiest out of any big 2 places in the country. They can be shockingly similar.
Timbers games are pretty fuckin awesome.
freenudemacusers
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seattle is pretty cool. not sure why you would compare to a much smaller city in maine, though. different side of the country and all.
Seattle has famous donut shops?
freenudemacusers
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top pot, maybe? But they just make ... good donuts. nothing revelatory or novel.
Tops. It's okay, but I'm never a big fan of donuts.
Top Pot and Mighty-O Donuts
freenudemacusers
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there are much more interesting things in seattle than donuts
freenudemacusers
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it's been on food network a few times. That's about all I know. Definitely doesn't get the same attention as voodoo does, IME.
johnny_park
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I don't know if it's famous but when I went to visit my sister, it's one of the places she wanted me to try out.
I'm sorry, but The Killing really tainted your city for me. Plus, I hate the weather over there.
I just heard about it and thought it was famous.
Gherid__lacksGPS
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I've lived in both cities my entire life. Grew up just outside of Portland, in Vancouver, WA. Went to school for about seven years in Seattle.
Both are great cities, great food, great beer, great entertainment, great gaming scenes. Portland has a little better traffic and is more bike friendly - but Seattle is pretty good for bikes, too.
Portland is a little cleaner, IMO.
Portland has a lower cost of living, for the most part. And no sales tax - offset by income tax.
I found Portland to have kinda shittier people. It's kinda weird. Seattle seemed a bit more laid back. If there were walls, people were really cool once they brought them down. Portland drivers suck ass, too. But, agin, it kinda depends on the neighborhood you settle into. Seattle did seem to have A LOT of people with schizophrenia, mental issues. Haha, some of the buss rides were pretty epic. I remember seeing someone get into an argument with a tree, lol.
Portland is pretty hipster and I'm not a big fan of that. It's kind of like, "a sea of conformity disguised as individuality."
Both put you an hour or two from Mountains, beaches, deserts, etc if you're an outdoor type.
I'll be honest, I preferred Seattle more. Though, I lived in the Fremont neighborhood and it was probably the best years of my life. Went to school at the Art Institute and UDUB and being around that community. Portland is a bir more "intimate" but also seems a little "colder" in terms of people. A lot will depend on teh job you land, too. But yeah, I loved Seattle.
Edit: Would it be possible to spend a week, or even just a few days in each city to just feel the vibe? It's like a three hour drive between the two.
Edit 2: OH, i forgot. Seattle is starting a MAJOR waterfront redesign / revitalization project in downtown. I'm trained as a landscape architect and having sat in on a lot of meetings and debates regarding the project. It's being done by James Corner Field Operations, they've done some really sick shit, like the highline park in manhatten. Here's the conceptual design which is to be completed in a few years.
Both are great cities, great food, great beer, great entertainment, great gaming scenes. Portland has a little better traffic and is more bike friendly - but Seattle is pretty good for bikes, too.
Portland is a little cleaner, IMO.
Portland has a lower cost of living, for the most part. And no sales tax - offset by income tax.
I found Portland to have kinda shittier people. It's kinda weird. Seattle seemed a bit more laid back. If there were walls, people were really cool once they brought them down. Portland drivers suck ass, too. But, agin, it kinda depends on the neighborhood you settle into. Seattle did seem to have A LOT of people with schizophrenia, mental issues. Haha, some of the buss rides were pretty epic. I remember seeing someone get into an argument with a tree, lol.
Portland is pretty hipster and I'm not a big fan of that. It's kind of like, "a sea of conformity disguised as individuality."
Both put you an hour or two from Mountains, beaches, deserts, etc if you're an outdoor type.
I'll be honest, I preferred Seattle more. Though, I lived in the Fremont neighborhood and it was probably the best years of my life. Went to school at the Art Institute and UDUB and being around that community. Portland is a bir more "intimate" but also seems a little "colder" in terms of people. A lot will depend on teh job you land, too. But yeah, I loved Seattle.
Edit: Would it be possible to spend a week, or even just a few days in each city to just feel the vibe? It's like a three hour drive between the two.
Edit 2: OH, i forgot. Seattle is starting a MAJOR waterfront redesign / revitalization project in downtown. I'm trained as a landscape architect and having sat in on a lot of meetings and debates regarding the project. It's being done by James Corner Field Operations, they've done some really sick shit, like the highline park in manhatten. Here's the conceptual design which is to be completed in a few years.
djSyndrome
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In Seattle, you can get virtually anywhere within a 25 mile radius of downtown (including across the water) via public transportation, and all using one card with reasonable rates. When I think of 'Better public transportation than Seattle', I think Tokyo, not Portland.
I live three blocks away from Frost, and I still prefer Top Pot. But only just.
Your right, I forgot about income tax and all that. Vancouver is one option, but I think city of Portland is trying to do stuff that discourages that.
Prolly closer to something round 10hrs, but I don't really keep track. It isn't 100% grey all the time, and sometimes it really can depend in winter. We have had years with lots of clear skies and lots of grey ones. Me I really like the cloud cover, though I don't like anything really that is partially cloudy.
I just moved a week ago and can completely agree with this statement.
Crimsonclaw111
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Seattle is right next to Valve's HQ. Move there and please steal a Steambox, for science.
ThatGayWolf
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Well, I just made my choice. It was Portland.
freenudemacusers
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mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Where ya moving from?
Dr. Feel Good
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Moved to Portland from Midwest two months ago for a job. Like it a lot so far.
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