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I personally don't mind owning multiple platforms so long as they are unique. The competition is fueling some great creativity from each of their first parties and both are pressured at remaining innovative for us consumers. Competition is a great thing for the industry.

 

[Ash Sparrow]

Sony doesnt need MS

as if:lol

 

[Odysseus]

actually, what microsoft needs to do is give samsung, philips, [insert whomever else sells dvd players] the 360 schematics and let them produce the console (it's what microsoft's eventual intentions are, anyway, so do it now) and let them compete on added features, price, etc., while obviously conforming to the cpu and graphics chip standard. sony is free to join in and produce 360s, too. the razor/blade model needs to end, people need to figure out how to make money on hardware and software (hello, nintendo). i say freeze the tech for a few years and let the guts of the hardware become commoditized. if nothing else, at least the red ring of death would go away.

if they're feeling really giddy, they can open it up for these firms to try to produce ps3/360 hybrid players.

 

[Lord Error]

It's no good when they focus on the two things that aren't serving them at all - these niche, nuanced art games like Lair and Heavenly Sword, or the obvious and already well-known power of the Cell processor.

So you really think every game they hyped at gamers day has some kind of nuanced art aspirations? Warhawk? Socom? Uncharted? R&C? More so than what? I don't even see how something like Lair even remotely applies, to be honest (IMO, Halo and GoW are both at least as much, if not more artful than Lair, and that doesn't seem to be hurting their sales one bit). I guess I don't really see what games they should be focusing on to get away from that wretched nuanced art

If the price is the only problem, sales would instantly boom to PS2 levels in every region once the price drops and sustain that. I personally don't see that happening.

I don't see how anyone can even attempt to predict something so far fetched and that far in the future, but more power to you if you can, I guess. To me it seems pretty obvious that if the PS3 was much cheaper right now, it would be selling lots more than it is, without Sony trying to instill any more excitement about it.

 

[mrklaw]

It would just move on to the games and developers. i.e., "my fav FPS is better than your fav FPS", etc. except it would be on the same console.

but each company would only get half the licensing fees, so it isn't attractive to them.

 

[Brofist]

And if they added anopther half format like Blu-ray on top, would that make a whole format shift? :lol

be careful, you are gonna stir up the format fans, and I don't know if you wanna go there

 

[MightyHedgehog]

actually, what microsoft needs to do is give samsung, philips, [insert whomever else sells dvd players] the 360 schematics and let them produce the console (it's what microsoft's eventual intentions are, anyway, so do it now) and let them compete on added features, price, etc., while obviously conforming to the cpu and graphics chip standard. sony is free to join in and produce 360s, too. the razor/blade model needs to end, people need to figure out how to make money on hardware and software (hello, nintendo). i say freeze the tech for a few years and let the guts of the hardware become commoditized.

if they're feeling really giddy, they can open it up for these firms to try to produce ps3/360 hybrid players.

I think that's actually in MS' plans.

 

[mrklaw]

actually, what microsoft needs to do is give samsung, philips, [insert whomever else sells dvd players] the 360 schematics and let them produce the console (it's what microsoft's eventual intentions are, anyway, so do it now) and let them compete on added features, price, etc., while obviously conforming to the cpu and graphics chip standard. sony is free to join in and produce 360s, too. the razor/blade model needs to end, people need to figure out how to make money on hardware and software (hello, nintendo). i say freeze the tech for a few years and let the guts of the hardware become commoditized.

if they're feeling really giddy, they can open it up for these firms to try to produce ps3/360 hybrid players.

didn't work for 3d0 or MSX that well.

 

[Odysseus]

I think that's actually in MS' plans.

i can never seem to locate it, but an interview with allard around e3 2005 (it may have been someone else) laid it out exactly like that, asking rhetorically "do you think we want to be making hardware 10 years from now?," and i think it's a great idea.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

didn't work for 3d0 or MSX that well.

MSX saw limited success. But, yeah, first thing to do is first make a successful platform worth opening up to multiple vendors. X360 fits that bill, I think. It's probably not going to happen until the current system is at the $199 mark (for the Premium).

 

[jarrod]

I think that's actually in MS' plans.

It was Microsoft's plan originally too... they wanted HP and Dell to manufacture Xboxen.

 

[Norse]

sorry I forgot to say combine the dual shock with the 360 controller....all 360 with the dual shock pad.

The latest update to the ps3 is why I think they should just join to make a killer media friendly gaming system. I rather power one on then switch between the 2 all the time.

Oh, and firefox should release a ps3 browser. The stock ps3 one blows chunks.

 

[Odysseus]

didn't work for 3d0 or MSX that well.

totally different situation, totally different time

 

[LCGeek]

Since when did T6 look that good in RT if it does I'm instantly buying it on the system first system that can sell me a good hori stick. On the topic the idea was actually plausible at one time, but from what I understand of the war these two companies have sony wanted to keep everything to themselves hence ms becoming engaged in the console arena like they have.

 

[drohne]

lair and heavenly sword are 'art games' now? rogue squadron with dragons and god of war with legshow are just too nichey and artsy fartsy? i knew xbots liked their cars and guns, but that's a little chilling, speevy

 

[Speevy]

lair and heavenly sword are 'art games' now? rogue squadron with dragons and god of war with legshow are just too nichey and artsy fartsy? i knew xbots liked their cars and guns, but that's a little chilling, speevy

In the same way that Panzer Dragoon Orta is, yeah.

 

[TJ Spyke]

Why go to GameFAQs when GameFAQs can come to you?

:lol

This is not as bad as that "Where is your username from?" thread that somehow is at 6 freaking pages.

As for the controller, keep that POS DualShock/Sixaxis. PlayStation controllers have always been the worst. I pretty much agree with the OP, although it won't ever happen.

 

[PistolGrip]

You do realize MS is in this market a defense against their PC market right? Joining up to make a PS3 would defeat their whole purpose.

plus

Spoiler

PS3 controller is better =P

 

[Odysseus]

You do realize MS is in this market a defense against their PC market right? Joining up to make a PS3 would defeat their whole purpose.

plus

Spoiler

PS3 controller is better =P

one platform running microsoft software would most certainly not defeat their whole purpose. it is their whole purpose.

 

[theBishop]

There's a lot of reasons this should never happen. I'll keep it brief and post one:

Multiplatform PC development would die off completely.

 

[LCGeek]

You do realize MS is in this market a defense against their PC market right? Joining up to make a PS3 would defeat their whole purpose.

plus

Spoiler

PS3 controller is better =P

My impression was that sony had no interest in doing a new media format with MS without basically hogging the credit and profit for themselves. I'm sure ms was at fault for their own reasons, yet the impression I got is that ms wanted to get into digital home area went to sony and got snubbed which isn't all that bright considering how ms can take you down at will if they want.

 

[Il Comodino]

Tekken 6 and some others at E3 will

OMG O_O

 

[Patrick Bateman]

There should be a Dreamcast 2.

That would make even Sony and Microsoft form an alliance as their last hope.

Spoiler

But they would fail!!!

 

[bumpkin]

Nice Photoshop.

No, really. They expect us to believe the game went from embarassing to astonishing in a few months' time? Horse shit.

 

[nubbe]

I'm sure Microsoft would pull out if the Playstation 3 used Windows Vista instead of XMB and Linux.

 

[Ryu1999]

Besides, thats the artwork from Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection so....yeah

 

[Masta_Killah]

OMG O_O

Don't hold your breath. Remember KZ 2 trailer?

 

[rollingstart]

if MS and Sony did make the PS360, I would want Sony to be the top in the relationship.

 

[lordfroakie]

This thread is still here?

 

[Ranger X]

That would be an awesome combo except if Microsoft touches the hardware side of things.

 

[FightyF]

That would be an awesome combo except if Microsoft touches the hardware side of things.

I think that's the point.

 

[Ranger X]

I think that's the point.

Just warning them ya know

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Why, so we can be held hostage by one company?

No, I don't think so.

 

[HocusPocus]

360 Controller for most of the games I play. I only prefer the PS3 controller for games like God of War and Ninja Gaiden.

 

[Ranger X]

Why, so we can be held hostage by one company?

No, I don't think so.

One console futur. Competition all on the software level. Gamer's dream. Rise in quality games.

 

[mrklaw]

Why, so we can be held hostage by one company?

No, I don't think so.

yep. You think $599 is bad? Then add 3rd party manufacturers needing profit margins, lack of incentive to loss lead due to no direct competition, and you're looking at potentially very expensive consoles that don't come down in price quickly.

Or very cheap consoles that have aged tech in them

Neither is good from my point of view.

 

[-Rogue5-]

Tekken 6: The Treening

I hope there's a standing-in-front-of-tree minigame...

 

[legend166]

It would be pretty funny to watch the GAF meltdown when it gets outsold by the Wii.

 

[C4Lukins]

They should. Take the 360 controller, all the 360 dashboards features, add ps3 dash design, Dollars instead of points, slap hd dvd/blu ray combo drive and sell it for 499. Best of both worlds.

A few corrections. Keep the 360 dash design (it is better), keep the points because I prefer to pretend I am not spending real money. Replace the 360 DPad with the PS3 DPad, or just make the 360 one work. Replace the 360 controllers RB and LB with the PS3 R1 and L1 buttons. Take the most attractive half of the PS3 at a vertical position, mirror it on the other half, and make it the size of the 360. Make Live free but include all the features it currently has. Make it as reliable as the PS3. Give it a paint finish that does not leave an obvious handprint. We have the perfect system. No need for both HD-DVD and BR, just pick one and it becomes the automatic winner. 400 dollars, gaming wins.

 

[mj1108]

Or give Nintendo the specs, have them manufacture it, add an optional Wiimote.

Best of 3 worlds!

Definitely since I'm sure Nintendo could manufacture PS360's better than MS could.

Spoiler

Hell, they could probably manufacture current 360's more reliably

 

[C4Lukins]

Definitely since I'm sure Nintendo could manufacture PS360's better than MS could.

Spoiler

Hell, they could probably manufacture current 360's more reliably

Well god knows they can sure manufacture an original XBOX better then Microsoft could 5 years after anyone still cares...... Paching ba dump tump........ :Looks at Wii sales and cries in the corner:

 

[Yama]

Why go to GameFAQs when GameFAQs can come to you?

:lol

:lol :lol :lol

 

[Goldrusher]

Oh God please no, keep that 360 controller and dashboard in Microsoft's console.

 

[C4Lukins]

Oh God please no, keep that 360 controller and dashboard in Microsoft's console.

SSX, Tony Hawk, and other assorted games where using the 4 shoulder PS2 buttons in cunjunction to do some sort of combo move are the only games I can recall where the PS2 design is superior as a whole to the 360 controller. The benefit of having 8 very accesible buttons on the dual shock made it superior to the original XBOX controller, but that benefit no longer exists. With the introduction of triggers on the Six Axis, the whole SSX Tony Hawk advantage no longer exists either. The PS2/PS3 controller does have a better DPAD. Please explain the "Oh God please no."

 

[Ryudo]

Oh God please no, keep that 360 controller and dashboard in Microsoft's console.

:lol

Its like offering a life jacket to a drowning man, only form him to say "i dont like the color orange".

 

[Borys]

360 + PS3 + Wii = PC

 

[Hammer24]

PC - upgrading every couple of months - fiddling with device drivers for every game = 360 or PS3 or Wii

Fixed that for ya...

 

[fse]

nah Sega should just buy all of them and make the best console ever

The SegaTendoSoftOny...

 

[Vagabundo]

Mark my Words: Next gen sony will do the hardware and MS will bow out if they run windows on it.

With the way the Wii is going MS will be able to strike a deal with Sony for their next console. Sony will run it on Windows/DirectX and possibly combine PSN and Live.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Make my words: Next gen sony will do the hardware and MS will bow out if they run windows on it.

With the way the Wii is going MS will be able to strike a deal with Sony for their next console. Sony will run it on Windows/DirectX and possibly combine PSN and Live.

:lol :lol