ChiefofCitadelSecurity
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Disappointing, just want to see this open gameplay they speak of.
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[MS-Conf] Tomb Raider Gameplay Demo
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MuddyDonut
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Thought it looked really boring. Need to see that open world and platforming.
What I liked:
-Gunplay/Combat is much better than previous games. Being able to get into cover and/or hide makes sense to me, and no auto-aim is a huge plus.
-Visuals are nice. Showing how the great game looks during the day was a good move.
Not for me:
-The combat level being one giant corridor. The QTE intro from last year was also one giant corridor.
-The amount of shooting is rather high. With a bow, I expected enemies to be fewer and more of a threat. Rather than bumbling idiots that die while trying to reload after emptying a clip.
To stand out from the rest of games at the conference, they should've shown something similar to that leaked press demo from last year. The story cutscene followed by a bunch of platforming in a relatively large area.
-Gunplay/Combat is much better than previous games. Being able to get into cover and/or hide makes sense to me, and no auto-aim is a huge plus.
-Visuals are nice. Showing how the great game looks during the day was a good move.
Not for me:
-The combat level being one giant corridor. The QTE intro from last year was also one giant corridor.
-The amount of shooting is rather high. With a bow, I expected enemies to be fewer and more of a threat. Rather than bumbling idiots that die while trying to reload after emptying a clip.
To stand out from the rest of games at the conference, they should've shown something similar to that leaked press demo from last year. The story cutscene followed by a bunch of platforming in a relatively large area.
I was embarrassed watching the trailer in my office, there's no way I could play that at home without using my headphones. Seriously, the intensity and excessive amount of pained moaning was a bit much -- wives everywhere will love this game.
The Katniss/Hunger Games pandering is pretty terrible too. Game itself looks decent enough though and I expect it will be very good.
The Katniss/Hunger Games pandering is pretty terrible too. Game itself looks decent enough though and I expect it will be very good.
The Albatross
Member
I like the direction they're taking but holy shit what is with all of the brown, green shit smear graphics in those photos?
If they want to copy Uncharted 2, which I hope they do really, then at least get the vibrant graphics of it.
If they want to copy Uncharted 2, which I hope they do really, then at least get the vibrant graphics of it.
DR2K
Banned
So obviously those elements are there and they just haven't shown them yet.
Metalmurphy
Member
Is this getting a PC version btw?
Larson Conway
Member
The Spike TV demo is in 40 minutes, I think.
They said the demo there isn't in the MC demo.
They said the demo there isn't in the MC demo.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Really dislike what I saw.
Yeah...obviously.
mugurumakensei
Member
I could not suspend by disbelief for the whole water splashing in third-person and the whole going down the river stream bit. I mean seriously. It's just terrible
Yes.
It's all a lie! Let's be ultra cynical/negative together!
Tomb Raider has always had action. I don't really see the problem with them showing a demonstration of how the action is going to play out. It actually looks good now! In the previous games, the action mechanics were so shitty you had to basically ignore them and concentrate on the solid platforming.
Everybody calling this an Uncharted clone needs to chill. CD is doing another demo that's going to show how the game plays out. That's probably where they'll show the slower parts of the game.
Everybody calling this an Uncharted clone needs to chill. CD is doing another demo that's going to show how the game plays out. That's probably where they'll show the slower parts of the game.
Yeah, running around the wilderness and mountains while shooting dudes is nothing like Tomb Raider.
Oh wait.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Said it last year, but traditional Tomb Raider never appealed to me. This does. It's a move to expand the audience, not cater to the (I would imagine at this point - a very small group of) hardcore Tomb Raider fans.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Will probably get on Steam sale though.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
20 minutes till the GTTV's demo. I'm excited, I wanna see more.
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That looked amazing, cant wait
NaturalHigh
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Bring back the secret dragon statuettes damnit!
Untombed Chartraider.
The 2nd demo better be the jam.
Untombed Chartraider.
The 2nd demo better be the jam.
It is a lie until I see it. If they keep showing a game that looks like Uncharted then I will say it looks like Uncharted. I have no fucking reason to take their word for it, talk is cheap. Show me the damn game you want to make.
They claim that there are hubs, or open/non linear areas that you can explore -- but the gameplay shown so far seems to indicate that it's quite linear/not open or explorable.
Most games tend to indicate how well they support 'open areas' through certain restrictions and design decisions early on -- ie, if the toolset/pipeline for the engine allows you to use a lot of the level, the various things that logically should be usable, or accessible, and fits with the theme and design of a level, you'd eventually notice if these things are closed off, or limited, after a few levels, or at once, depending on the scenario.
IE; If there's a level that is very limited in scope and 'openness', but has no reason to be -- it should actually be very open in the context of the theme, plot, flow of the design so far, so it seems very odd that it is very linear/closed off. (Not referring to Tomb Raider here.)
Of course, most engines could create an open world in a game, but some engines do not handle it as well. The water-level (Where you swim around in an area with lots of boats.) in Uncharted 3 is quite open and handles it well.
But the gameplay and overall 'feel' of this game seems to be quite linear. But even though I absolutely love open world games, and somewhat dislike Uncharted 3 (I haven't finished the first 2 yet.), this looks pretty good.
Most games tend to indicate how well they support 'open areas' through certain restrictions and design decisions early on -- ie, if the toolset/pipeline for the engine allows you to use a lot of the level, the various things that logically should be usable, or accessible, and fits with the theme and design of a level, you'd eventually notice if these things are closed off, or limited, after a few levels, or at once, depending on the scenario.
IE; If there's a level that is very limited in scope and 'openness', but has no reason to be -- it should actually be very open in the context of the theme, plot, flow of the design so far, so it seems very odd that it is very linear/closed off. (Not referring to Tomb Raider here.)
Of course, most engines could create an open world in a game, but some engines do not handle it as well. The water-level (Where you swim around in an area with lots of boats.) in Uncharted 3 is quite open and handles it well.
But the gameplay and overall 'feel' of this game seems to be quite linear. But even though I absolutely love open world games, and somewhat dislike Uncharted 3 (I haven't finished the first 2 yet.), this looks pretty good.
Every single piece of footage they've shown has been like Uncharted. Typically you want to show people gameplay that's indicative of the game you'll be playing.
Horsemama1956
Member
Looked like they were trying too hard to make a good game. Seems like it's going to be a lot of sitting around watching shit.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
The defining aspect of TR has always been large, open environments with lots of puzzles and platforming.
As a long time fan of the series I continue to be disappointed with what's being shown. I like Uncharted just fine but I don't need other series' that I enjoy trying to be just like it.
If running and shooting dudes is what Tomb Raider is all about to you then...well you need to play Tomb Raider games again I guess.
RPG Wizard
Member
I can't help but feel really awkward at the Tomb Raider trailer during the Microsoft conference. It felt like I was watching a "Lara Croft gets her ass kicked by bad luck" simulator. I mean, the trailer last year I recall her getting pierced through the abdomen with I think a bone. So this year she falls directly only some scrap metal in the busted plane, right through her abdomen again. And this is not counting the number of cut-scenes where she's getting bashed around and slammed into things.
That just doesn't sit too well with me.
As said earlier, she probably should've passed out from blood loss. I mean, sheesh, I know it's a game, but the decision for visible damage just makes me wince. (It really didn't help that all of the other action games shown were guys tanking bullets and other blows like they were nothing.)
That just doesn't sit too well with me.
As said earlier, she probably should've passed out from blood loss. I mean, sheesh, I know it's a game, but the decision for visible damage just makes me wince. (It really didn't help that all of the other action games shown were guys tanking bullets and other blows like they were nothing.)
starchild excalibur
Member
If I was a fan of the original Tomb Raider series I'd probably be upset that they seem to be focusing less on the puzzle aspect and going a more action-oriented route.
Good thing I wasn't a fan of the original Tomb Raider.
They were obviously inspired by Karl Pilkington.
Good thing I wasn't a fan of the original Tomb Raider.
They were obviously inspired by Karl Pilkington.
victreeb3l
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lara looks incredibly cute, but i find it funny how they put her through so much damn abuse. 3/4 of the trailer was her falling down, crashing into shit and just bleeding all over the damn place
LOOK GUYS SHES A STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER LOOK AT ALL THE ABUSE AND BROKEN BONES SHE CAN HANDLE
LOOK GUYS SHES A STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER LOOK AT ALL THE ABUSE AND BROKEN BONES SHE CAN HANDLE
Ryona fetish fans are gonna have a ball with this game.
