stan423321
Member
Let's see how UWP lovers side on this.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...on-xbox-ones-proprietary-wireless-signal.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...on-xbox-ones-proprietary-wireless-signal.html
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[?] MS to push Xbox One wireless on PC, fight Bluetooth [?]
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They're licensing out the Xbox Wireless protocol. Doesn't stop them from also putting Bluetooth in their accessories.
Son of a Witch
Member
Nothing.
dragonelite
Member
So companies want to use their tech so we can use their products on pc and xbox.
That's suppose to be a bad thing?
That's suppose to be a bad thing?
Bits N Pieces
Member
Strange thread title. Strange thread.
RealityCheque
Banned
Not seeing the drama here. Xinput is already the defacto standard for pc controllers, seems a logical step to integrate a seamless wireless gaming standard with it.
And this is related to UWP, how?
And this is related to UWP, how?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Was REALLY hoping the Surface Pro 4 was going to have it. SP5 definitely will then.
Neander
Member
Huh??
And what's wrong with them licensing their wireless protocol so that you can more easily use their products without dongles. How is that "fighting Bluetooth"?
Yes when it's a push for a closed proprietary technology, and that's even more apparent when existing technologies already exist that can do this very thing.
Moving past the subject of the wireless standard, I get the feeling I won't be interested in any of these supported devices. The Steam Controller is already better than any controller out there and for the foreseeable future, and just happens to miraculously and easily connect between my PC and Steam Link box. Headsets, especially wireless ones, and even more so gaming branded ones are a complete joke. And as for a "Joystick", which I'm assuming they mean arcade stick or flight stick, you wouldn't want wireless for either.
stan423321
Member
It's the same sort of move, honestly. Windows isn't per se removing support for regular executables or Bluetooth but Microsoft really wants you to use their new thing for reason that doesn't appear clear at the moment. Especially since the article mentions keyboards running on that.
Anyway, thread is available for locking. Xbox Connect, seriously? Can't they settle on one name?
dragonelite
Member
Then vote with your dollars, and buy products that use open technologies.
jediyoshi
Member
But just to reiterate, literally no actual connection.
Hamster Plugin
Member
The most annoying thing about this is that they're using this on headsets too. The headphone market already sucks because you need separate headphones for everything and it's really difficult to find the one headset that works on them all: Xbox One, PS4, PC and your phone.
I ended up getting a Turtle Beach Elite 800, which solves the problem by having three different inputs it can receive sound from: its own transmitter which gives the best sound quality (intended for PS4 with optical out and USB mic input, but works on PC too), and then there's Bluetooth support and a 3.5mm jack. And this thing isn't very affordable, seems like the normal price of it is around 350-400, but I ended up getting it on a sale for 250.
So what does this have to do with Microsoft's new thing? Well, this is another stupid standard for everyone to support. It's proprietary too so don't expect to listen to music with your Android or iOS phone with your Xbox Certified Headset unless it's doing the thing that Elite 800 does and supports all kinds of inputs (hey, good reason to jack up the price)!
I ended up getting a Turtle Beach Elite 800, which solves the problem by having three different inputs it can receive sound from: its own transmitter which gives the best sound quality (intended for PS4 with optical out and USB mic input, but works on PC too), and then there's Bluetooth support and a 3.5mm jack. And this thing isn't very affordable, seems like the normal price of it is around 350-400, but I ended up getting it on a sale for 250.
So what does this have to do with Microsoft's new thing? Well, this is another stupid standard for everyone to support. It's proprietary too so don't expect to listen to music with your Android or iOS phone with your Xbox Certified Headset unless it's doing the thing that Elite 800 does and supports all kinds of inputs (hey, good reason to jack up the price)!
stan423321
Member
It's a separate move, by the same company, involving the same product. Yes, it doesn't specifically affect UWP. But it all allows making PC more of a closed platform in the long run if it takes off. So no, there is a connection.
Easily done.
LordBaztion
Member
will they bug bluetooth death?
stan423321
Member
After mismanaging the UWP reputation so much that they had to add UWP sideloading to the mix, the most sensible thing to do was to try to go hard on again with the hardware and hope no one will draw parallels or at least get angry, yeah. Why did they miss the chance? /s
shiftplusone
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Hockeymac18
Member
Yeah, if they were interested in seeing bluetooth fail they wouldn't spend the time to include bluetooth in their new controllers...
So...what am I supposed to be angry about again?
Exactly.
Bluetooth is proprietary yes. But it's a standard. Adding Xbox wireless's special version of wifi direct is just MS's attempt to force companies to pay an additional licensing fee to duplicate functionality already offered by the standard technology in the Bluetooth protocol.
New XBone controllers support Bluetooth no?
But, judging by the other thread isn't their version better then Bluetooth for controllers and what not? Plus, why put BT in their new controllers then if they want to control the market or whatever you think they are doing. Are they forcing companies to use it?
Yes, here is the reason.