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[FacelessSamurai]

None of those IPs outside of forza and halo is from ms and they don't own any of the IPs you mentioned outside of forza and halo, how many of those do you think will even remain exclusive?

Given that you own both, if titanfall 2 comes out on both and there are more players online on ps4, and given the better hardware the game runs smoother and looks better on PS4, wouldn't you buy the PS4 version? Same goes for dead rising which has been multiplatform before.

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

 

[loaf of bread]

You know XB360 outsold the PS3 for 32 months straight before the GTA 5 bundle helped PS3 win a month last year. 2 1/2 years of "winning"! Did that make the PS3 a bad, inferior system?

When did i ever say anywhere that the XB1 was a bad, inferior system? Also 360/PS3 are not in the same situation as XB1/PS4.

 

[greenegt]

Good news. ~150K in mid-summer is not bad at all.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

I will be getting an XB1 this fall for the MCC because I love the series so much, but after that it's only going to be used for exclusives. Basically the total opposite of last gen for me.

So I'm sure the XB1 is going to see a nice boost this fall just like the PS4. It's going to be telling how close the XB1 comes to the PS4 sales though. I do not think, even with MCC, that the XB1 can overtake the PS4 in sales. It depends on how close MS can come to Sony in sales to determine if the price and games are making a difference.

 

[Widge]

looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them

Its incredibly business for Insomniac. After they rake in the sales, they can then pump the titles out to any platform they wish to rake in some more. Which is something people factor in when deciding what platform they are going to grab.

I think people are getting at Microsoft's performance over the last 4 or 5 years more than anything else. Where they have tended to sit back on the third party parity stuff and pump out service to their core sliver of franchises. They are good at launching hardware, we know that, as demonstrated by the crop of titles that came out to support the Kinect but there is still a huge question mark over their ability to do that ongoing.

There is only so far you can go with the third parties, especially when you start to lag behind in software sales.

 

[ironcreed]

Good news. ~150K in mid-summer is not bad at all.

It's really not. It could actually be a sign of an upward trajectory as we head into the Fall season. I mean, this is just the first month of the $399 version being available and it is in the slow summer months to boot.

 

[Percy]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

I don't even know where to start with this veritable mental olympics of a post, but I just wanted to say that the bolded reminded me of an old quote from South Park where some anti-drugs guy says "Drugs are illegal, and having never taken drugs I can safely say that they have nothing to offer.”.

 

[Salex_]

The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

I find it hard to take comments like this seriously. Looking at it from my point of view, I don't prefer all of one's companies exclusives and only like 1 or 2 of a different company's exclusives. There's many quality games in all genres for all 3 platform holders. It feels like you have to have already made up your mind about the entire library that isn't from your favorite company to say things like that.

 

[Asd202]

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

I think you shoud take a look at Watch_Dogs sales. Destiny is even getting a bigger push.

 

[Bluekaveli]

6:30 PM EST yes.

Thank you.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

The PS3 and 360 versions of this games might as well be afterthoughts at this point, while plenty of people will buy them on those consoles they are not going to make up the majority.

Destiny is seen as the PS4's game. Everything about the game has been presented in a way saying it's a must have on PS4. If you want the best Destiny experience, get it on PS4. It absolutely will move units. That bundle is going to be sold out everywhere.

See Watch_Dogs as other people have mentioned.

 

[Bgamer90]

The PS3 and 360 versions of this games might as well be afterthoughts at this point, while plenty of people will buy them on those consoles they are not going to make up the majority.

Destiny is seen as the PS4's game. Everything about the game has been presented in a way saying it's a must have on PS4. If you want the best Destiny experience, get it on PS4. It absolutely will move units. That bundle is going to be sold out everywhere.

See Watch_Dogs as other people have mentioned.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he agrees. He was just making a point about the whole "true exclusives" term.

 

[rokkerkory]

I will be getting an XB1 this fall for the MCC because I love the series so much, but after that it's only going to be used for exclusives. Basically the total opposite of last gen for me.

So I'm sure the XB1 is going to see a nice boost this fall just like the PS4. It's going to be telling how close the XB1 comes to the PS4 sales though. I do not think, even with MCC, that the XB1 can overtake the PS4 in sales. It depends on how close MS can come to Sony in sales to determine if the price and games are making a difference.

Kinda same boat for me too. lol

I am okay with X1 placing after PS4 as long as it has some decent sales in its lifetime. We need it to grow the industry.

 

[truth411]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

Joke post? Dunno where to start. I'll just say no way on God's green earth Titanfall 2 stays exclusive, E.A. not having it , Heck Respawn didn't want it to be exclusive, so not happening. Insomniac owns the I.P. to S.O. If its successful they will take it multiplatform especially since virtually all of there fan base is on PlayStation and they will not say no to more money, they need it. BTW I have a sneaky suspicion that If S.O. was exclusive to Sony you would have an instant dismissal of the game in your desire to play it.

 

[Relativ9]

If anything was going to push the Xbox One ahead of the PS4 in a monthly NPD this was going to be it. The Xbox One is still in a great place if you judge it in a vacuum, but MS must be let down by these numbers...doing great isn't the same as winning.

 

[Jomjom]

Cmon dude. As if there arent some people that come into threads with a pre-disposed negative disposition on the issue at hand.

There are literally people who go into a thread with a negative predisposition in every single thread on GAF. Should we just shut it down then?

 

[Biker19]

As a video games console, the Xbone is objectively inferior than the PS4. As a media player, why would you spend $400 when you can get a Roku for a quarter of that?

This. People buy consoles to play games on. Media stuff is secondary to them.

Not to mention that there are plenty of Smart TV's, tablets, etc. that can do the same things that Xbox One is doing.

 

[Bgamer90]

If anything was going to push the Xbox One ahead of the PS4 in a monthly NPD this was going to be it.

Disagree... Not at the same price as the PS4 without any major games coming out.

Would be different if there was a major exclusive and/or if the new SKU was say, $300 (or less).

 

[fallingdove]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

This is the worst post I have read in a long time.

Titanfall would have come out regardless of Microsoft's involvement - period. Not to mention that it would have come out on additional platforms.

I'll give you the Dead Rising 3 - it may not have come out if it weren't for MS' money bags. In the end though, it doesn't matter, the franchise could just as easily appear on playstation platforms if Sony ponies up the cash. - Which doesn't net the Xbone platform owner much in the end if they purchase for an exclusive franchise that doesn't end up exclusive.

Now on to your comments about Sony exclusives - because you don't own or care about many Sony exclusives, they don't exist. Apparently. To deny that Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo, and Last of Us, aren't hugely compelling, incredibly popular IPs, is insane.

The problem that I have always had with Microsoft, even though I have largely enjoyed both OG Xbox and Xbox 360, and mostly Xbone so far, is that they have proven time and time again that they invest in gamers during the first few years of the cycle, but leave those same gamers high and dry later on.

Sony on the other hand, instead of banking on front loaded 3rd party exclusivity, they use funds to support their platform throughout its entire life cycle with first party content. Many of my favorite first party Sony titles came out at the end of the generation.

So when people say that Sony has the stronger lineup of exclusives/first party, it's because through 3 generations, Sony has time and time again supported those that own their systems and will likely do so with the PS4. I hope I am wrong this time with the Xbone, but when they spend their money on the Gears of War IP instead of on new IPs/ studios, my spidey senses start tingling.

 

[FaultTolerance]

Titanfall would have come out regardless of Microsoft's involvement - period. Not to mention that it would have come out on additional platforms.

You think so, eh?

http://www.totalxbox.com/75303/microsoft-saved-titanfall-from-cancellation-claims-report/
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/syst...all-from-being-canned-sony-lacked-o-31212939/
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/...development-was-turbulent-saved-by-microsoft/
http://kotaku.com/titanfall-was-alm..._source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803127

 

[DWinn7]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

Stop it.

 

[Jomjom]

As I walk into my livingroom with drink in one hand plate of pizza in the other, "xbox on" it turns on my tv, cable box, av reciever. It recognizes who I am with Hi (my name) and proceeds to show my home screen and the pins I'm interested in. One of my pins was season 2 episode 7 of Orange is the new black on netflix and I would like to continue watching that. "xbox pins, orange is the new black". Boom. This inferior console thing needs to stop.

Only problem is that a couple button presses does this exact same thing for pretty much anyone on anything that has Netflix and with 100% accuracy.

 

[Dragonborn]

You think so, eh?

http://www.totalxbox.com/75303/microsoft-saved-titanfall-from-cancellation-claims-report/
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/syst...all-from-being-canned-sony-lacked-o-31212939/
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/...development-was-turbulent-saved-by-microsoft/

It's been said many times before. Yes, MS stepped in and helped hence why it was times. The thing people have a problem with is that once those rumors got going, they got scared, went to EA and "funded" it some more to makw it full exclusive. It's prerty obvious the game was meant to come to other platforms

 

[ironcreed]

This. People buy consoles to play games on. Media stuff is secondary to them.

Not to mention that there are plenty of Smart TV's, tablets, etc. that can do the same things that Xbox One is doing.

You are correct. I bought an Xbox One because it has more games that I want to play. All of the other features are just a bonus.

 

[FaultTolerance]

It's been said many times before. Yes, MS stepped in and helped hence why it was times. The thing people have a problem with is that once those rumors got going, they got scared, went to EA and "funded" it some more to makw it full exclusive. It's prerty obvious the game was meant to come to other platforms

What was meant to happen and what ended up happening are two different things.

 

[DWinn7]

Originally Posted by timlot

As I walk into my livingroom with drink in one hand plate of pizza in the other, "xbox on" it turns on my tv, cable box, av reciever. It recognizes who I am with Hi (my name) and proceeds to show my home screen and the pins I'm interested in. One of my pins was season 2 episode 7 of Orange is the new black on netflix and I would like to continue watching that. "xbox pins, orange is the new black". Boom. This inferior console thing needs to stop

Only problem is that a couple button presses does this exact same thing for pretty much anyone on anything that has a Netflix supported device and with 100% accuracy.

EXACTLY...not making an argument for/against the inferior console thing, but I'm getting tired of people acting like picking up a controller and pressing 2 buttons is THAT hard. How much time are we REALLY saving? With that being said, the "Xbox, record that" feature works more fluidly than pressing the PS4 share button. I still can't get that thing to function consistently lol!

 

[SmokedMeat]

It really didn't.

The WiiU never had the "basically all the same games as its direct competitor but worse performing and a token few exclusives" problem.

That wasn't even in the post I quoted and responded to.

 

[ClearData]

This month's NPD should provide Microsoft with all the motivation it needs to pull out the stops this holiday season with good deals and bundles. The market is responding to the $400 price point. Once the glut of holiday games arrive and bundles are constructed the value will be there for a lot of people.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

That wasn't even in the post I quoted and responded to.

It is exactly that (the comparison between Xbone and Ps4) you just interpreted it as a raw power statement not as a comparative capability statement.

 

[fallingdove]

You think so, eh?

http://www.totalxbox.com/75303/microsoft-saved-titanfall-from-cancellation-claims-report/
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/syst...all-from-being-canned-sony-lacked-o-31212939/
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/...development-was-turbulent-saved-by-microsoft/
http://kotaku.com/titanfall-was-alm..._source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803127

Absolutely I think so. And linking to the same source multiple times doesn't make your point any stronger FYI.

Every report indicates that the team needed additional support and were waiting on both Microsoft and Sony to return their call. Just because Microsoft came forward first to support the game doesn't mean that without Microsoft, Titanfall would not have been finished. The tiered logic just doesn't work.

 

[timlot]

Only problem is that a couple button presses does this exact same thing for pretty much anyone on anything that has Netflix and with 100% accuracy.

True, but the integration makes it different. I can be watching live TV and go straight to playing a game (yup games), to Netflix or any App for that matter using my voice,gestures, controller, harmony remote, smart glass app. Hell you can even do them both at the same time if you would like. Its the "experience" ahh yes, the experience that makes it a superior all around console. IMO of course.

 

[FaultTolerance]

Absolutely I think so. And linking to the same source multiple times doesn't make your point any stronger FYI.

Every report indicates that the team needed additional support and were waiting on both Microsoft and Sony to return their call. Just because Microsoft came forward first to support the game doesn't mean that without Microsoft, Titanfall would not have been finished. The tiered logic just doesn't work.

It doesn't not mean that either. Your logic is just as spotty.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

Only problem is that a couple button presses does this exact same thing for pretty much anyone on anything that has Netflix and with 100% accuracy.

Yep. You can say 'Playstation - Netflix' and open up the software, whatever you were watching last is two buttons clicks away - if you really wanted to*. Still - gotta search the whole house for that TV remote and pad first! And that's after you've found space to put your drink and pizza!

It just isn't that compelling for me, and I'm pretty sure most amps will switch on TV/AMP/HDMI with one button anyway.

This month's NPD should provide Microsoft with all the motivation it needs to pull out the stops this holiday season with good deals and bundles. The market is responding to the $400 price point. Once the glut of holiday games arrive and bundles are constructed the value will be there for a lot of people.

Realistically, how many stops have the got left to pull out? Everything is already out, and the pedals are down as far as I can see. I think they're down to fingers crossed and word-of-mouth.

*I don't, I'm okay using buttons to do stuff, and I'm not so impatient that I want everything started up before I've even say down

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

It's been said many times before. Yes, MS stepped in and helped hence why it was times. The thing people have a problem with is that once those rumors got going, they got scared, went to EA and "funded" it some more to makw it full exclusive. It's prerty obvious the game was meant to come to other platforms

Yep.

 

[Biker19]

Some posters on this thread (as well as on other threads) keeps on saying, "Xbox One will make a big comeback just like PS3 did!" doesn't seem to realize a few biggest obstacles that'll prevent that from happening & why they won't reach the same huge numbers like Xbox 360 did.

1.) Microsoft doesn't exactly have worldwide like Sony does. Main reason Microsoft got more sales outside of the U.S. was because it was cheaper & that they had a huge head start with Xbox 360 (they got a year & a half head start over PS3 in Europe).

2.) About 36+ million Xbox 360 owners outside of the U.S. is what contributed to the 84+ million total sales number that 360 had. With Xbox One, the market outside of the U.S. is flat out rejecting it thanks to bad marketing, the higher price tag, & with all of the negative scandals that's associated with it (being always-onine DRM, no used games, & NSA in general). Most of those sales will go directly to PS4.

Xbox One outside of the U.S. is like Wii U/Sega Saturn/Sega Dreamcast territory in sales. They're not even guaranteed to rack up the same huge numbers that they got in the U.S. which was at about 48+ million 360 consoles sold, especially when this generation isn't guaranteed to last as long like the Wii/360/PS3 generation did.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

I think there's enough word of mouth out there now that Joe gamer definitely knows that the Xbox One is the weaker console. sure he may not know anything about resolution or even really care on the face of it, and if he looked at them side by side he may not even notice. however, the narrative is definitely out there and it affects people's purchase decision

In some ways I think it might actually be better for Microsoft if Joe Gamer knew more about resolution. Most people can barely tell the difference between 900p and 1080p, most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a PS4 and an Xbone version of the same multiplat. But all Joe Gamer knows is that the Xbone has worse graphics, and that's a much harder thing to overcome than "some games that run at 1080p on PS4 run at 900p on Xbone" because he doesn't know exactly what the parameters of "worse graphics" are.

 

[ethomaz]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

Please stop

 

[DarthWalden]

Realistically, how many stops have the got left to pull out? Everything is already out, and the pedals are down as far as I can see. I think they're down to fingers crossed and word-of-mouth.

*I don't, I'm okay using buttons to do stuff, and I'm not so impatient that I want everything started up before I've even say down

Well they can still drop the price... Removing the kinect only effected the original vision they had for the console... It didn't effect the bottom line... In fact I think they make more money off the kinectless SKU.

 

[Bundy]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

lol... hope this becomes a meme

RIP motion controls please never come back.

Welp.... I was never a fan of it :-/

 

[gtj1092]

True, but the integration makes it different. I can be watching live TV and go straight to playing a game (yup games), to Netflix or any App for that matter using my voice,gestures, controller, harmony remote, smart glass app. Hell you can even do them both at the same time if you would like. Its the "experience" ahh yes, the experience that makes it a superior all around console. IMO of course.

Its so great you keep buying and selling them.

 

[turcy]

This is the worst post I have read in a long time.

Titanfall would have come out regardless of Microsoft's involvement - period. Not to mention that it would have come out on additional platforms.

I'll give you the Dead Rising 3 - it may not have come out if it weren't for MS' money bags. In the end though, it doesn't matter, the franchise could just as easily appear on playstation platforms if Sony ponies up the cash. - Which doesn't net the Xbone platform owner much in the end if they purchase for an exclusive franchise that doesn't end up exclusive.

Now on to your comments about Sony exclusives - because you don't own or care about many Sony exclusives, they don't exist. Apparently. To deny that Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo, and Last of Us, aren't hugely compelling, incredibly popular IPs, is insane.

The problem that I have always had with Microsoft, even though I have largely enjoyed both OG Xbox and Xbox 360, and mostly Xbone so far, is that they have proven time and time again that they invest in gamers during the first few years of the cycle, but leave those same gamers high and dry later on.

Sony on the other hand, instead of banking on front loaded 3rd party exclusivity, they use funds to support their platform throughout its entire life cycle with first party content. Many of my favorite first party Sony titles came out at the end of the generation.

So when people say that Sony has the stronger lineup of exclusives/first party, it's because through 3 generations, Sony has time and time again supported those that own their systems and will likely do so with the PS4. I hope I am wrong this time with the Xbone, but when they spend their money on the Gears of War IP instead of on new IPs/ studios, my spidey senses start tingling.

um, i hate to stop you, but...

titanfall would not have come out if it weren't for MS stepping in and saving the day - just read Keighley's last hours of titanfall for proof.

 

[Majmun]

X1 making a comeback like PS3 did?

There's no valid argument to prove that theory right.

 

[icespide]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

 

[bidguy]

Its incredibly business for Insomniac. After they rake in the sales, they can then pump the titles out to any platform they wish to rake in some more. Which is something people factor in when deciding what platform they are going to grab.

I think people are getting at Microsoft's performance over the last 4 or 5 years more than anything else. Where they have tended to sit back on the third party parity stuff and pump out service to their core sliver of franchises. They are good at launching hardware, we know that, as demonstrated by the crop of titles that came out to support the Kinect but there is still a huge question mark over their ability to do that ongoing.

There is only so far you can go with the third parties, especially when you start to lag behind in software sales.

you assume that ms is stupid and didnt negotiate for rights of refusal

 

[Jimmyfenix]

While MS doesn't own all of those franchises, looking at Insomniacs decision to go with MS because they let them retain their IP, if it's good business for them and have a good relationship (same with Titanfall where MS actually is the reason why the game came out) then there is still a possibility of Xbox to keep those as exclusives. Capcom themselves also said I believe that if it weren't for MS there wouldn't have been a DR3.

Also, when people say games like FH2 aren't exclusive to Xbox One, they should remember that the 360 version is being developed by another developer and that it has already been mentioned that it won't even be the same game at all, so in that respect, yes, it is exclusive.

Other games like LBP3 are coming to PS4 and PS3, I don't see anyone ever mentioning that, only when it comes to Xbox games. I guess TLOU won't sell at all as it is already available on PS3. Oh, but but but Sony says many PS4 owners are new to the PS ecosystem...

Also, you can't say Sony has better first party games, but you can say that for you that is the case. The only exclusives I have on PS3 are Uncharted and God of War, as for me, there wasn't anything else worthwhile to play on a PS3, while I own almost every MS IPs on Xbox 360. That is the same reason why I own an Xbone, because for me, the first party/exclusives situation is much better than on PS4.

People say Destiny is gonna sell PS4s, but then why would it if it's not exclusive and is also coming to last gen consoles? Why is it true for this game which is a 3rd party game and not even exclusive, but then not in the case of a game like Forza Horizon 2? Why can't FH2 sell Xbox Ones?

Calm down.

 

[Sothpaw]

RIP motion controls please never come back.

 

[hellmonkey]

Well they can still drop the price... Removing the kinect only effected the original vision they had for the console... It didn't effect the bottom line... In fact I think they make more money off the kinectless SKU.

About to go to lunch so I don't have time to look, but a part breakdown of cost estimated the xbone to cost about $410 or so and the Kinect was around $75 or 80, I think. Ill find it when I get back, but if those numbers are close, then MS is losing a bit selling the console for $400. ES ram is an expensive fist in MS's butt right now and probably for the rest of the generation.

 

[Amentallica]

Not sorry when I say this, but with regard to console gaming, as it seems to be contracting, I would much rather have Sony snowball with their PS4 and gather all of the momentum. I wouldn't mind just two consoles for choosing (Wii U and PS4). I think the PS4 and Xbox One are too similar, so I'd prefer to just have one be successful so that most multiplatform titles and exclusives that would normally be split between the two are instead on one (akin to PS2).

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

um, i hate to stop you, but...

titanfall would not have come out if it weren't for MS stepping in and saving the day - just read Keighley's last hours of titanfall for proof.

So you're saying EA, the biggest 3rd party publisher in the industry working with the developer of the biggest franchise last gen, wouldn't have ponied up a few million dollars to help in development if MS said "nope" ?

I find that impossible to believe.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

I think you shoud take a look at Watch_Dogs sales. Destiny is even getting a bigger push.

I don't think Destiny is going to sell anything like Watch Dogs, personally, but I guess we'll see when the time comes.