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[djtiesto]

No, it doesn't.


Most stereotypical post I've ever read. Yes, they are "spoiled." How the fuck do you even know?


Who even gives a fuck? It's a subgenre. I don't think anyone would even argue this



You're a fucking idiot. "Sometimes" is the my favorite song and IMO the greatest song of all time.
I feel bad for you.

So, you feel fit to judge a person (and call them a "fucking idiot") based on their musical opinions? Probably not a very popular fellow with an attitude like that. I feel bad for you.

I don't like what I've heard of My Bloody Valentine, and I don't care much for 90's rock (should have specified "alternative" rock, maybe?), so to me it all sounds the same. To you, all minimal, or deep house, or whatever I like probably sounds the same.

 

[Discotheque]

I think trance sounds the same fo sho. Got tired of that genre. You've got a point there, some people just can't recognize the differences within a certain genre.

 

[StuBurns]

So, you feel fit to judge a person (and call them a "fucking idiot") based on their musical opinions? Probably not a very popular fellow with an attitude like that. I feel bad for you.

I don't like what I've heard of My Bloody Valentine, and I don't care much for 90's rock (should have specified "alternative" rock, maybe?), so to me it all sounds the same. To you, all minimal, or deep house, or whatever I like probably sounds the same.

Well that comment was replying to an attack on everyone who claims to like My Bloody Valentine.

If someone said everyone who claims to like Joanna Newsom is trying to be a hipster, I'd call them a fucking idiot.

 

[ThanksVision]

To you, all minimal, or deep house, or whatever I like probably sounds the same.

No, because I would listen to as much of it as I possibly could in order to form a well reasoned opinion, instead of summing up an entire genre in just a few words.

 

[djtiesto]

I think trance sounds the same fo sho. Got tired of that genre. You've got a point there, some people just can't recognize the differences within a certain genre.

You're not gonna get an argument from me on that point. Nowadays it's all by the numbers Armada/Anjuna stuff.

Well that comment was replying to an attack on everyone who claims to like My Bloody Valentine.

If someone said everyone who claims to like Joanna Newsom is trying to be a hipster, I'd call them a fucking idiot.

Worse attacks and generalizations have been said in this thread, (yes I read all the pages of it) yet none of the people making them got a calling-out. Guess I must've hit a nerve on that poor guy.

No, because I would listen to as much of it as I possibly could in order to form a well reasoned opinion, instead of summing up an entire genre in just a few words.

But if you didn't like the 10 or so songs you've heard of Genre X, why would you continue listening to it until you find the few odd songs out that you might like? For internet cred? Why not just stick to the genres you do like, instead seeking out new artists? Or try to find other new-to-you genres you might like upon first or second listen?

And hell, I don't even dislike 90's rock. This is a thread of controversial opinions, after all.

 

[Davey Cakes]

To chime in on Animal Collective, I'm going to say that MPP is their best album by a long shot. The only full-length work the band's put out that doesn't contain at least a couple of ridiculously inaccessible songs. That said, Brother Sport is quite possibly the band's most overrated song.

 

[hateradio]

MPP was my favorite album of last year (Fuck Buttons as a really close second), but that album has NOTHING on spirit if/feels

NOTHING

Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished <3 <3 <3 <3

Actually, MPP is my least favorite album by AC.

 

[X26]

I really, REALLY don't get the Nickleback hate. They have some good, memorable songs, are great live, and aren't complete dicks.

 

[NGAMER9]

The Beatles, aside from the song A Day In The Life, are terrible. And Sgt. Pepper is one of the worst albums I've ever heard.

Led Zeppelin are vastly overrated, many from my belief Jimmy Page can't play guitar at all.

The Final Cut by Pink Floyd is a fantastic, amazing album. Likewise Roger Waters' Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking is one of the greatest albums of all time.

Whereas I like bands like The Doors, Mars Volta, and Tool, which all seem pretty hated here.

 

[funkmastergeneral]

I really, REALLY don't get the Nickleback hate. They have some good, memorable songs, are great live, and aren't complete dicks.

What is wrong with you

 

[Calcaneus]

Funny thing is that NME gave it a 3/5 when it came out and a decade later they called it THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME

Ten years is a long time, there probably was a very different staff back then.

 

[brianjones]

Led Zeppelin are vastly overrated, many from my belief Jimmy Page can't play guitar at all.

i can understand not liking his style of guitar playing (i'm not into the overblown solos myself) but to say he can't play?

 

[Toski]

Slipknot & Mudvayne are metal.

Spoiler

Closer to Metal than Hard Rock anyway.

It's Dark And Hell Is Hot>Illmatic

And for my Radiohead troll: Limp Bizkit w/ Wes>Radiohead

 

[Lafiel]

I really, REALLY don't get the Nickleback hate. They have some good, memorable songs, are great live, and aren't complete dicks.

:lol ......... :lol

 

[-Eddman-]

Jimmy Page can't play guitar at all.

:lol OK, OK, some might like his style, some might not; but no, that's wrong dude.

If Jimmy's performance on the "Song remains the same" movie is being unable to play guitar, man, I really want to unlearn guitar.

To add some more opinions:

-I don't see what's so special about Sigur Ros, I think I don't "get" them at all.

-The German metal scene is undeniably the best in the world by far, in all sub-genres but angsty Black Metal (but who cares about those panda wannabes anyway?). Even against the golden era of NWOBHM in the 80's.

 

[Alucrid]

I really, REALLY don't get the Nickleback hate. They have some good, memorable songs, are great live, and aren't complete dicks.

And creed is good too.








OH WAIT. :lol

 

[Davey Cakes]

Actually, MPP is my least favorite album by AC.

So I take it you're more a noise fan than a music fan?

 

[jambo]

i can understand not liking his style of guitar playing (i'm not into the overblown solos myself) but to say he can't play?

He was always great in the studio and early on live, but from about 1975 onwards his live work is pretty shitty. He was often drunk or high and would try to play way more notes than his fingers could actually hit, or just blatantly hit the wrong notes.

It's such a pity too, cause there are a few stellar shows from the 75 and 77 tours, but so many others are utter shit.

 

[blame space]

So I take it you're more a noise fan than a music fan?

music fan here, Strawberry Jam is the best Animal Collective album..

 

[Alucrid]

music fan here, Strawberry Jam is the best Animal Collective album..

fuck yeah broski.

 

[blame space]

fuck yeah broski.

FOREVER AND GREEN
FOREVER AND GREEN

 

[brianjones]

He was always great in the studio and early on live, but from about 1975 onwards his live work is pretty shitty. He was often drunk or high and would try to play way more notes than his fingers could actually hit, or just blatantly hit the wrong notes.

It's such a pity too, cause there are a few stellar shows from the 75 and 77 tours, but so many others are utter shit.

thats about when zep gets uninteresting in general though

 

[demon]

 

[ATF487]

It's Dark And Hell Is Hot>Illmatic

There's no emoticon for what I'm feeling!

 

[blame space]

:O

 

[NGAMER9]

i can understand not liking his style of guitar playing (i'm not into the overblown solos myself) but to say he can't play?

He's a fine rhythm guitarist in studio, and can write some nice riffs, but he was never able to solo and has always sucked live. Just really sloppy.

 

[-Eddman-]

yourbandsucks.jpg

For George Michael fans, that's actually true, literally.

 

[Alucrid]

FOREVER AND GREEN
FOREVER AND GREEN

not true fan.

for reverend green.

disappoint.

thought found broheim.

no find broheim.

WEEO WEEO WEEO WEEO WEEEOOO WEEEEOOO WEEEOOO WEEEEOOO WEEOO OOH EH OOH EH OOT OOH EH OOH EH OOT OOH EH OOH EH OT OT OOOH EH OOT

 

[Lambtron]

Sleater Kinney> breeders

Wait, there's people who would disagree with this?

 

[blame space]

led sepplin sucks rite

 

[blame space]

not true fan.

for reverend green.

disappoint.

thought found broheim.

no find broheim.

WEEO WEEO WEEO WEEO WEEEOOO WEEEEOOO WEEEOOO WEEEEOOO WEEOO OOH EH OOH EH OOT OOH EH OOH EH OOT OOH EH OOH EH OT OT OOOH EH OOT

BRO

..Bro

i know

..I know.

 

[-Eddman-]

Zeppelin is so popular that even hating Zeppelin is a popular opinion.

 

[dextran]

Nirvana /eom

 

[Sobriquet]

Radiohead's best album is The Bends.

 

[blame space]

Radiohead's best album is The Bends.

now this i can get behind

FAAAYAAAKE PLASTIC TREES

 

[Doytch]

Radiohead's best album is The Bends.

I have a friend who thinks this too. Totally understandable, even if I prefer Kid A.

FAAAYAAAKE PLASTIC TREES

High and Dry falsetto > Fake Plastic Trees falsetto

 

[Davey Cakes]

I'm pretty sure that it's a controversial opinion to think any Radiohead album besides OK Computer is the best of them.

I do know that In Rainbows is my favorite.

 

[Doytch]

Paranoid Android is a better song than anything Radiohead have ever done, but Kid A is better than OK Computer.

 

[British Monsoon]

I'm not much of a Radiohead fan, but The Bends is my favourite of theirs and Black Star is the best thing they've ever recorded.

Ugly Kid Joe were more than just the 'Cats in the Cradle/(I Hate) Everything About You' guys - Menace to Sobriety is one of the best and most underrated hard rock albums on the 90's and it's frankly criminal that more people aren't aware of this, or of UKJ in general outside of the aforementioned radio hits.

Opeth have been kind of shit since Ghost Reveries, Watershed wasn't that great either - but hey, we got 7 fuck-awesome albums before they slipped up.

 

[-Eddman-]

This one is because i'm actually listening to the song:

-I really hate Green Day from the bottom of my heart, but Basket Case is such a great song. I don't know, must be nostalgia.

 

[WrenAndroid]

Amnesiac's b-sides are better than The Bends.

 

[blame space]

green day is actually really good.. up until their latest album

 

[Cosmic Bus]

I guess almost every opinion ever about Radiohead is controversial? Since no one seems to think "eh, they're just ok."

I'm in the "eh" camp. Kid A was really good and their existence as a former rock band is "Just"-ified by that song alone, but at this point, honestly who cares? They're neither great nor terrible (well, Hail to the Thief was), they're not especially interesting or unique, and people still pay so much attention because Yorke is eccentric and the band is able to whatever they want whenever they feel like it, which keeps the fans on their toes.

Plenty of other musicians follow the same formula and no one bats an eye, but plenty of other musicians aren't among the most prominent faces of the music industry.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Hail to the Thief is a bit weak in comparison to Radiohead's high points, but if it's terrible then a great deal of the music out there in the world is terrible as well.

 

[Plywood]

By request, some Sonic Youth songs, mostly the most accessible stuff - I must admit the band is kind of an acquired taste

Mote

Titanium Expose

Sugar Kane

Star Power

The Sprawl


...None of my actual favorites sound very good to the untrained Sonic ear.

I liked Mote and Sugar Kane, The Sprawl and Titanium Expose vids didn't really have good quality so it was kind hard to tell if they were good or not. Didn't care for Star Power.

You are so wrong I almost pity you.

Post ur favs.

 

[RDreamer]

They're neither great nor terrible (well, [Hail to the Thief was)

Hail to the Thief is a better album than Kid A. For me it goes The Bends > OK computer > Hail to the Thief > In Rainbows > Amnesiac > Kid A > Pablo Honey

 

[Yoshiya]

I love OK Computer. Often it seems to be ranked poorly in the Radiohead discography due to its popularity, but that album has an amazing ability to produce atmosphere.

When people call good music boring I generally assume they have some problem with their attention span. Music does not need to provide constant climax and auditory overload. Slow down and enjoy the subtlety, that's where the real talent lies. (That isn't directed at criticism of OK Computer, but more to the people who refuse to consider anything that isn't Gaga inflicting grievous bodily harm on their ear drums)

I don't get most hip hop. I guess its mostly a cultural thing; I get some of the underlying musical ideas (huge fan of Blue Lines and more detached trip hop stuff) but the presentation often ranges from unappealing to downright offensive to my ears. Also, so much of the industry just seems to exist to stoke the egos of a bunch of arseholes. I don't know, maybe I'm just 'too white' or too willfully ignorant of American pop culture.

I don't get metal at all. As far as I can tell, it throws away every worthwhile musical principle and replaces it with a mess of noise appealing only to masochists. It's more or less the nadir of human culture.

 

[hateradio]

^ Or people have different ideas for themselves as to which music is good. I don't care if someone likes what I like or not.

In an irrelevant note, I seem to be one of the few who like Deastro's Moondagger. It's obnoxious but I seem to like it. O;

So I take it you're more a noise fan than a music fan?

No, to me it's just uninteresting compared to their previous releases. "In The Flowers" is a wonderful song that is too short, and most of the album is far to repetitive. Not to say that they don't use repetition in their previous albums but it's overboard in this release. However, I do like some of the songs, but certainly not all.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I'm in the "eh" camp. Kid A was really good and their existence as a former rock band is "Just"-ified by that song alone, but at this point, honestly who cares? They're neither great nor terrible (well, Hail to the Thief was), they're not especially interesting or unique, and people still pay so much attention because Yorke is eccentric and the band is able to whatever they want whenever they feel like it, which keeps the fans on their toes.

Plenty of other musicians follow the same formula and no one bats an eye, but plenty of other musicians aren't among the most prominent faces of the music industry.

Radiohead is great because of their disocgraphy. Few other bands have fanbases spanning so many different types of tastes. The only generally agreed upon thing from one fan to another is that Pablo Honey is kind of shitty (granted, I've never made it through the whole album, there might be something awesome beyond Creep). That's a quality that triggers not only a lot of interest in the band from people not typically interested in their style of music and 'persona', but also sees them mentioned heaps in threads like this.

Saying 'THE CHILI PEPPERS ARE SHIT' isn't controversial, because musical taste can vary so much. Saying 'KID A IS ABSOLUTELY HORRID' will be much more controversial, in the literal sense, because people with already established similar tastes can disagree on it so heavily. Hence Radiohead's constant mention in threads like this.

Arguing about why Coldplay is better than Radiohead is pointless and completely 'high-school' because the two bands are obviously trying to achieve two completely different things. Arguing about Kid A versus Amnesiac actually has some merit, because we can assume both parties are actually on the same wavelength, to some degree.

 

[Yoshiya]

^ Or people have different ideas for themselves as to which music is good. I don't care if someone likes what I like or not.

Of course, such is the nature of 'taste'. We all think we have perfect taste as we are the basis for judging everyone else's. When I say 'good', it means 'good from my perspective'. Nobody can claim higher judgment than that.