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[Amir0x]

Immortal Technique is the shit!

 

[Aske]

hehehe..those are brutal/technical death metal bands. I would not jump into those right away. It'd be melodic death> death>brutal death> brutal technical death

Another brutal technical death band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIMW0aHN0ks

Here's what happened. I had just finished watching the Origin video you linked when I noticed the blonde with the cute face and cleavage in the related videos section. Next thing I knew, I was watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBT8hWA__M&feature=related


Click if you like pretty girls with thick Eastern European accents using the phrase "like a cave of dirty bats" in regards to an ancient Roman hermaphrodite.

 

[harSon]

Immortal Technique is the shit!

His politics are royally fucked up though :lol

 

[Amir0x]

His politics are royally fucked up though :lol

but it sounds sooo good :lol

 

[DrM]

Amir0x, you should check Primordial. Almost no growling on last albums, mostly clean vocals and great music.

 

[Woffls]

Garage
Hardcore Punk
Electro/Trance/Dance/House etc (club music)
R&B (the modern type)

ahahaha. Nah, but that Guilt Machine track is genuinely good. I like that and will actually be trying out the album it's from. I'm glad I made this thread so I could hear that :lol

If you like Guilt Machine, find out who Arjen Lucassen is and listen to the Human Equation by Ayreon.

Death metal - Children of Bodom - Lake Bodom - vocals don't start for a minute, lead melody is pretty awesome, you've probably already heard this song anyway. I think Death Metal is defined by the vocals, so if that's what puts you off then you wont like the genre until you've taken steps to withstand it. I was of a similar opinion until about a year ago, and it took me quite a while to prepare. But then, I rarely give a shit about vocals and lyrics as it is.

 

[zoukka]

I get all genres.

 

[Red Blaster]

Stuff like Sly and the Family Stone, Jimi Hendrix (Band of Gypsys), Fishbone, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Prince, War, Trapeze, and Rolling Stones.

I guess I like them because they include elements of stuff I already like, basically blues and funk.

Heard of The Black Keys? Two-piece blues outfit that's pretty neat, way better than The White Stripes.

I'll Be Your Man
The Desperate Man
Midnight In Her Eyes

 

[Aske]

To people who dislike jazz:

please elaborate. I honestly don't "get" how anyone could hate jazz.

While I wouldn't say I hate Jazz, it's certainly not music I ever desire to hear; and I often find it objectionable to the point of irritating. I understand the genre's appeal to others, but despite its breadth it's not for me. I don't like the abstract, random melodies of improvised Jazz music. I often find the brass horribly brassy. I've never heard a Jazz vocalist that didn't irritate me. Most specifically, the music often conveys this sense of pretentiousness to me that transcends the personalities of Jazz fans and musicians. Jazz music often - though not always - feels like it's trying too hard. More broadly, I usually don't enjoy the sounds the instruments are making in conjunction with each other, or the emotional response the music is trying to evoke.

It boils down to the same reason some people hate Death Metal. DM sounds like a conflagration of irrelevant noise to them; that's how Jazz generally sounds to me. The bottom line is that a person needs the right sensibilities to appreciate art of any kind; especially if it hasn't been constructed solely to appeal to the broadest group. Given the diversity of human tastes, it would be surprising if we could find a musical genre that a significant group of people didn't hate.

 

[lethial]

That crappy dance shit Europeans listen to.

 

[HappyBivouac]

While I wouldn't say I hate Jazz, it's certainly not music I ever desire to hear; and I often find it objectionable to the point of irritating. I understand the genre's appeal to others, but despite its breadth it's not for me. I don't like the abstract, random melodies of improvised Jazz music. I often find the brass horribly brassy. I've never heard a Jazz vocalist that didn't irritate me. Most specifically, the music often conveys this sense of pretentiousness to me that transcends the personalities of Jazz fans and musicians. Jazz music often - though not always - feels like it's trying too hard. More broadly, I usually don't enjoy the sounds the instruments are making in conjunction with each other, or the emotional response the music is trying to evoke.

It boils down to the same reason some people hate Death Metal. DM sounds like a conflagration of irrelevant noise to them; that's how Jazz generally sounds to me. The bottom line is that a person needs the right sensibilities to appreciate art of any kind; especially if it hasn't been constructed solely to appeal to the broadest group. Given the diversity of human tastes, it would be surprising if we could find a musical genre that a significant group of people didn't hate.

Yeah, that second paragraph I get, obviously. I was just curious as to how people might break it down.

To me, jazz and jazz-inspired music has always seemed to have the most potential for emotion and feeling. It just digs down to where I really feel something deep and energetic and meaningful just from hearing certain jazz tunes played in certain ways at certain times. Of course "smooth jazz" is for the most part awful to me.

It's pretty much just that different people resonate better with different things, as you said.

 

[Future]

While I wouldn't say I hate Jazz, it's certainly not music I ever desire to hear; and I often find it objectionable to the point of irritating. I understand the genre's appeal to others, but despite its breadth it's not for me. I don't like the abstract, random melodies of improvised Jazz music. I often find the brass horribly brassy. I've never heard a Jazz vocalist that didn't irritate me. Most specifically, the music often conveys this sense of pretentiousness to me that transcends the personalities of Jazz fans and musicians. Jazz music often - though not always - feels like it's trying too hard. More broadly, I usually don't enjoy the sounds the instruments are making in conjunction with each other, or the emotional response the music is trying to evoke.

It boils down to the same reason some people hate Death Metal. DM sounds like a conflagration of irrelevant noise to them; that's how Jazz generally sounds to me. The bottom line is that a person needs the right sensibilities to appreciate art of any kind; especially if it hasn't been constructed solely to appeal to the broadest group. Given the diversity of human tastes, it would be surprising if we could find a musical genre that a significant group of people didn't hate.

Pop is usually the genre that transcends all, which is why it is popular, heh. But everything is going to have haters cuz certainly not everyone likes pop. Havent seen many absolutely hate all of Michael Jacksons stuff though.

I was waitin for someone to explain the jazz thing. Pretentiousness? Not sure I understand that one but alright. Definitely have to dig some instruments to get into it. I know a guy that hates the sound of a saxophone, which still blows my mind. I tend to like funkier/smooth jazz with a beat, and not the super old school straight ahead jazz which might be what you are referring to

EDIT

Of course "smooth jazz" is for the most part awful to me.

And I thought I had found the one other guy that liked my style of music haha.

 

[ghst]

music i don't "get" doesn't bother me, my jazz palette is pretty unrefined, my void of understanding of more opulent baroque styles leaves me fairly numb to its sound, similarly the extreme dissonant end of death metal.

it's music i do "get", chart pop, happy hardcore, disney rock, jack johnson and that brokencyde shit. the sort of thing that takes the path of least resistance to song writing and leaves a taste so luke warm, flavorless and bland that i have to spit it out, that's where my furies lie.

 

[harSon]

Heard of The Black Keys? Two-piece blues outfit that's pretty neat, way better than The White Stripes.

I'll Be Your Man
The Desperate Man
Midnight In Her Eyes

Yeah, I heard of them by extension of listening to their Hip Hop collaboration Blackroc. Also heard them on the Sons of Anarchy soundtrack (Speaking of Sons of Anarchy, this song is fucking badass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5uD4npODwg&p=3681126336957598&playnext=1&index=46) They're definitely something I'd listen to. Anymore suggestions along this line?

 

[Ialokin]

To all the people not "getting" death metal:

I used to hate harsh vocals like many others in this thread, but now I'm pretty sure death metal my favorite genre of music. I think one of the reasons is that in a lot of death metal the vocals are not the main focus. To me most death metal vocals just fall back and mix with the rest of the instruments instead of becoming the center of attention like in, say, power metal (I love power metal btw). In fact, most of the time when a death metal band tries to employ cleaner vocals it really puts me off, because they're still trying to sound all mean, but I can actually understand what they're saying so it just sounds silly. I'm not saying that in order to sing angrily you gotta growl and screech. I'm saying that to me the growling and screeching doesn't strike me as naturally angry. Mostly because they aren't natural at all; they are a completely different language. In addition to this I think that the fact that a lot of death metal bands know that they can't rely on vocals to carry a song and that forces their songs to contain interesting and diverse melodies.

Now I'm not expecting to convert anyone to death metal. I just wanted to let people know why I and perhaps some others find this to be a worthwhile genre.

Even so, I'll end with an Amir0x challenge entry (though based on previous entries I'd say there's a good chance that I'll fail).

Kalmah - Heroes to Us
and one more!
Gorod - Programmers of Decline I especially don't expect this one to do the job, but it's actually one of the songs that really got me into death metal. The harsh vocals couldn't keep me away from the intricate guitar and groovy drum beats.

 

[Jaffaboy]

I generally just dislike bands and artists rather than whole genres. I have a fair amount of indie in my collection, but I hate them fucking Arctic Monkeys I just want to rip their faces off. I really don't have any hip hop at all and most of it I can't really stand listening to, but I really rate Mos Def.

Then there's people like Devin Townsend whose solo stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDOXTCg1Z8) I think is amazing, but with Strapping Young Lad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQAe-M4xMI) I just can't listen to it without laughing at how ridiculous it is.

So really, I just ignore 'genres' and just give everything a chance. Although I will say I've noticed that metal is a genre most people really find hard to grasp, but then there's a lot of metal fans that listen to nothing but metal and don't have the patience to check out anything else. But that's just from my experience.

 

[HappyBivouac]

And I thought I had found the one other guy that liked my style of music haha.

Well, I might just be genre ignorant. There's a local group that's picked up steam recently and they do a sort of half-radiohead half-jazz thing, and it might fall in the smooth jazz genre. I'm not sure what all it encompasses.

Here's one of their songs: http://koplantno.com/html/listen_popup.php?id=5
So if you would consider that smooth jazz then I guess I do like (some of) it.

 

[soundahfekz]

Every genre of music has a good, or decent song. denying that is more rebuking the culture/lyrics, not embracing the idea that every song of said genre blows. Grow up.

 

[Outlaw]

To all the people not "getting" death metal:

I used to hate harsh vocals like many others in this thread, but now I'm pretty sure death metal my favorite genre of music. I think one of the reasons is that in a lot of death metal the vocals are not the main focus. To me most death metal vocals just fall back and mix with the rest of the instruments instead of becoming the center of attention like in, say, power metal (I love power metal btw). In fact, most of the time when a death metal band tries to employ cleaner vocals it really puts me off, because they're still trying to sound all mean, but I can actually understand what they're saying so it just sounds silly. I'm not saying that in order to sing angrily you gotta growl and screech. I'm saying that to me the growling and screeching doesn't strike me as naturally angry. Mostly because they aren't natural at all; they are a completely different language. In addition to this I think that the fact that a lot of death metal bands know that they can't rely on vocals to carry a song and that forces their songs to contain interesting and diverse melodies.

Now I'm not expecting to convert anyone to death metal. I just wanted to let people know why I and perhaps some others find this to be a worthwhile genre.

Even so, I'll end with an Amir0x challenge entry (though based on previous entries I'd say there's a good chance that I'll fail).

Kalmah - Heroes to Us
and one more!
Gorod - Programmers of Decline I especially don't expect this one to do the job, but it's actually one of the songs that really got me into death metal. The harsh vocals couldn't keep me away from the intricate guitar and groovy drum beats.

Yep! Like I mentioned earlier, liking harsh vocals metal is an acquired taste. You just don't listen to a couple of death metals songs and think " OH THIS FUCKING RULES!!! "" the first thought is, "WTF is this shit"" mainly because the harsh vocals is not natural. So yeah, Amir0x won't get death metal until a few months of continuous listening.

In the mean time how about some more awesome metal

How about some Folk/Melodic Death this time


Moonsorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FP_yFIvQgo&feature=related


Tyr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBH6fIUZjBg&feature=related



Ensiferum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iXwkUUmdZ4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s6Fz8BATWE&feature=related


Eluveitie


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o&feature=related

 

[Zoramon089]

Rap, or at least the popular type of rap. It's just some guy talking over an extremely simple beat. Where's the music?

You can't seriously believe this? Even the crappiest of rappers are able to spea with a rhythm not found in normal speech...Not to mention lots of songs with guitars are extremely simple repeats of a couple chords

 

[HappyBivouac]

Every genre of music has a good, or decent song. denying that is more rebuking the culture/lyrics, not embracing the idea that every song of said genre blows. Grow up.

:lol

A good portion of the people in this thread have come in with a fairly open mind. Instead of coming in here with some snarky high horse comment already in mind, you could try participating in the discussion.

 

[Tf53]

I see a lot of people are claiming they don't 'get' rap. I thought I'd toss in my 2 cents:

I listen to rap because of the structure of the lyrics. To me, it's about the poetry, and especially about the rhythm and rhyme of the words. The best example I can give you is Eminem's first verse in Renegade, a song he did with Jay-Z.

If you are interested in 'getting' rap, listen to it and pay close attention to how Eminem plays with similar sounds and words even within lines of text. Not only does he have incredible control over the sound of the English language, he even manages to throw in wordplay (you fuckin' do-gooders, too bad you couldn't do good at marriage).

To me, rap is all about twisting the language to fit your needs. If you can include humor, wit and good stories, all the better.

Some would say that rappers twist the language to unnatural forms, but so did Shakespeare.

 

[Always-honest]

modern R&B.

makes me sick. There are some exeptions that i can bare, but in general, it's just WRONG.

and dance music like Tiesto. Fuck that nonsense. It's trash.

 

[Prez]

Of course "smooth jazz" is for the most part awful to me.

I hate most smooth jazz too (the slow kind), but there's some real funky smooth jazz out there. Check out Jeff Lorber, Norman Braun and Brian Culbertson.

 

[ATF487]

I see a lot of people are claiming they don't 'get' rap. I thought I'd toss in my 2 cents:

I listen to rap because of the structure of the lyrics. To me, it's about the poetry, and especially about the rhythm and rhyme of the words. The best example I can give you is Eminem's first verse in Renegade, a song he did with Jay-Z.

If you are interested in 'getting' rap, listen to it and pay close attention to how Eminem plays with similar sounds and words even within lines of text. Not only does he have incredible control over the sound of the English language, he even manages to throw in wordplay (you fuckin' do-gooders, too bad you couldn't do good at marriage).

To me, rap is all about twisting the language to fit your needs. If you can include humor, wit and good stories, all the better.

Some would say that rappers twist the language to unnatural forms, but so did Shakespeare.

Also something I have come to appreciate from rap is how they take their influences and morph them into their own style. Lots of lyrics allude to other songs and samples from other genres can bring new bands into the public consciousness.

I thought it was pretty awesome when Kanye took the melody from Can's Sing Swan Song, for example

I haven't read this entire thread but my contributions are:

-classical. I appreciate it but I just can't get into it, listening to entire symphonies is work for me.
-Some technical metal bores me. I usually use Dream Theater as an example; I think they are amazing with their instruments but christ, they can't write an engaging song. I'm not shitting on the genre because I do like some bands in it, but in general I'm not going to bust a nut over some solo in a song
-Straight, CMT style country. I like alt-country, and Dylan's Nashville Skyline, so I know that country influences aren't bad, but I can't get into mainstream country.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

To people who dislike jazz:

please elaborate. I honestly don't "get" how anyone could hate jazz.

It just sounds so.. random. Like there's no structure to the rhythms or the music. I just can't get into it at all, but I do acknowledge that jazz musicians are probably among the most technically skilled musicians out there.

 

[SonofdonCD]

Seeing the few people here saying Jazz really boggles my mind. I personally understand not being a particular fan, but not getting it seems a bit much.

While I wouldn't say I hate Jazz, it's certainly not music I ever desire to hear; and I often find it objectionable to the point of irritating. I understand the genre's appeal to others, but despite its breadth it's not for me. I don't like the abstract, random melodies of improvised Jazz music. I often find the brass horribly brassy. I've never heard a Jazz vocalist that didn't irritate me. Most specifically, the music often conveys this sense of pretentiousness to me that transcends the personalities of Jazz fans and musicians. Jazz music often - though not always - feels like it's trying too hard. More broadly, I usually don't enjoy the sounds the instruments are making in conjunction with each other, or the emotional response the music is trying to evoke.

While the improvised melodies are not random, I can understand why you would think so.

It blows my mind to hear you say that about all jazz vocalists. I really don't know what to say here. Maybe that if you can't find a jazz singer that you like you probably don't like singers.:lol

Yeah, the pretentious part I don't get without some more explanation. Neither the trying to hard part. The emotional response can range in wildly different directions depending on the song. I'm sure there is a song out there that would resonate with you on an emotional level. That's just a generalization I don't think anyone can make about any genre of music.

It boils down to the same reason some people hate Death Metal. DM sounds like a conflagration of irrelevant noise to them; that's how Jazz generally sounds to me.

Now I can't necessarily speak for anyone else but myself, but people say those things about Death Metal not just because we don't like the sound. It literally sounds like noise. Loud, grating, distortion, screaming, very dissonant. That sounds like straight up noise to me. Jazz has none of those qualities, besides perhaps free jazz.

I'm with the OP, but it goes further for me. I can't stand heavy distortion, so that leaves pretty much all Heavy Rock forms out for me. Now I won't say that I actively tried for a long period of time to like it, but I've had friends who were in bands within these genres and if it weren't for the fact that they were on stage I would never step foot into those shows. This aspect more than anything else I just don't "get" why others would like it.

I also can't stand screaming vocals, or even people who are just not good singers in general. If you can barely hold a tune, don't expect me to listen to your song. I need a singer that has shown some amount of technical skill. Tone, vibrato, pitch, improvisation. Just a good level of control over their voice and the ability to do many different things with it. Just like any other member of the band, the singer is using their voice as an instrument; I like it when they treat it as such. I know some people think emotion over technical skill, but why not desire both? I'd argue that the best singers in the world have both.

Basically if your song doesn't have either of these characteristics, there is a chance I will like it.

 

[forknknife]

I really think there are generes that are much more difficult to get into than others and, inside some of these generes there are a whole range of bands, from very bad to very good (some of the recommendations you've been given in this thread have been atrocious, in my opinion).

Since I started listening to music, I have been basically widening and widening my tastes and now they cover almost any kind of music, and I can appreciate everything, to the really poppy to really dark, from very minimal to more extreme and complicated music.
LOTS of my now favourite bands I even hated on my first listens, so I think sometimes it's just a matter of having that certain 'click' with the music and that will only happen depending on your musical culture background until that moment and emotional baggage.

With more aggressive music (which is your case if we generalize a bit) like hardcore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBBiLCCarg&feature=channel), metal hardcore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sq8ZlyvH6E&feature=related) or grindcore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXeFKXahTLk&feature=related) I think it's just not possible to enjoy the music unless you feel its cathartic ability to let your repressed anger out. Basically, either you start listening to it when you are a rabid teenager that hates everything in this world or you will most likely not pay any attention to it or even think of it as ridiculous. I think if you were a raver by that time it's no wonder to me that you feel that way about it now.

Anyway, just to try to win some quick money, here are my recommendations

In terms of industrial, I think the best band there has ever been is Godflesh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI_D_cnrGco&feature=related

Entombed is kind of an atypic Death Metal (more like death rock and roll, depending on the record, though). But anyone should like this song, come on! The riffs cannot be more catchy, it's almost pop! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLSsOdauiJ8&feature=related


The one thing that I don't like about some of these types of music, I have to say, is that most of the fans I see in festivals and with which I have to share the space in order to see the band are either stupid, disgusting or assholes, and many times all of those things combined. I sometimes feel really ashamed of admitting I like the bands that some of those dickheads are wearing t-shirts of.

 

[Red Blaster]

Yeah, I heard of them by extension of listening to their Hip Hop collaboration Blackroc. Also heard them on the Sons of Anarchy soundtrack (Speaking of Sons of Anarchy, this song is fucking badass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5uD4npODwg&p=3681126336957598&playnext=1&index=46) They're definitely something I'd listen to. Anymore suggestions along this line?

Hmm, The Black Keys are definitely the bluesiest of the artists with the garage rock aesthetic. There's stuff like The Strokes but they've stripped most of the overt blues elements out (though their song Under Control is basically a Motown song). There's a little punk blues trio from the 80s called The Gories (Thunderbird ESQ, Nitroglycerine). They could barely play their instruments but they had a cool vibe and were very influential.

Going back to older stuff, glam rock like T.Rex might interest you. Bluesy riffs with string arrangements along with less guitar theatrics.

Telegram Sam
The Slider
Lean Woman Blues

 

[Pizza Luigi]

I am going to go with what Amir0x posted, pretty much.

On my Facebook wall I posted a few Stevie Wonder songs. A friend then commented on them with the 'most beautiful song written about him'. What I got was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfeNOJNQy0s
:lol :lol :lol

 

[Seraphis Cain]

You know what I don't get? How my 47 year old mother can be simultaneously obsessed with Elvis Presley and Lil' Wayne. I mean, seriously. :lol

One's a legendary, amazingly talented musician, and the other is Lil' fuckin Wayne. :lol At one point she showed me the wallpaper on her phone, and it was Lil' Wayne arriving at Rikers Island.

I think my palm nearly went through my face.

 

[bounchfx]

the problem with metal is most of you can't even understand what the fuck is happening during the songs. it takes getting used to, for sure.

There was a time when I first heard Converge and just flat out said 'this is not music'. This is back when I thought Shadows Fall and Darkest Hour was the heaviest shit (this was 2002?), but gradually you learn how to hear all the sounds and melodies and structures within, and it's completely awesome. Jane Doe is one of my favorite albums these days, but it's difficult to just dive right into anything extreme. I've never had a problem with the screaming myself, it's just another part of the music, and it's a shame people are missing out on such great songs because of something like that.

I think my musical progression went like this (for metal at least).

Green Day (lol gotta start somewhere)> Rob Zombie> Pantera> Megadeth> Tool/NiN> Shadows Fall/All That Remains (back when either band weren't complete sellouts)> In Flames> Dark Tranquility> Converge (YUCK HATED IT)> Cave In> Soulfly/Sepultura> Opeth> Arsis (A Celebration of Guilt was fucking incredible)> Converge again, this time I started to understand.. it took maybe 4 listens before I really 'got' it> The Red Chord (about the same time as Converge) BTBAM> Blind Guardian> The Ocean> Cynic> Emperor

pretty much started going black and doom metal the last two years (not exclusively obviously).

So lately I'm into stuff like Ulver, Agalloch, Emperor, Nest, Immortal, Decapitation, Wolves in the Throne Room, Mirrorthrone, Ahab, Ea, Altar of Plagues Moonsorrow, Enslaved, Deathspell Omega, etc.

It's just, I'm looking for heavier and denser, it's just much more interesting. That, and a lot of ambient things. Agalloch and Nest are good examples of this. They're calm, very little if any screaming, and very melodic. It's weird, it's almost backwards, but some of this is still considered doom. and it's great. it's interesting as fuck, it's diverse, and it's an experience.

I can understand how people might not like straight up blastbeats in every situation (or like an early Enslaved album), but to say there's no melody or nothing cohesive there is just completely ignorant.

so I suppose in another way I can say it.. Rock>Hard Rock> Heavy Metal> Progressive Metal> Hardcore/Screamo> Melodic Death Metal/Power Metal> Progressive Death Metal> Technical Progressive Death Metal> Progressive Black Metal> Ambient Black> Ambient Doom> Straight up fucking BLACK. that's how I grew. At least, with the metal genre. I am by no means exclusive.

what the fuck where did I get time to write all this.

I think, to answer the OP's question.. I 'get' what's likable about all types of music. I just don't like Country, and most mainstream pop/rap. It hurts my ears, is boring as shit, and for me, is borderline unlistenable. However, I have heard 1-2 tracks that I might say I fancy.

have a great day.

 

[harSon]

Hmm, The Black Keys are definitely the bluesiest of the artists with the garage rock aesthetic. There's stuff like The Strokes but they've stripped most of the overt blues elements out (though their song Under Control is basically a Motown song). There's a little punk blues trio from the 80s called The Gories (Thunderbird ESQ, Nitroglycerine). They could barely play their instruments but they had a cool vibe and were very influential.

Going back to older stuff, glam rock like T.Rex might interest you. Bluesy riffs with string arrangements along with less guitar theatrics.

Telegram Sam
The Slider
Lean Woman Blues

Thanks.

I seem like funky, bluesy or soulful music in general. For example, I liked a lot of the music in The Devil's Reject's soundtrack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Opqut99UDY&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3nALkeKrlY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkL4GNnwjeg&feature=related

 

[minor effort]

Trance, probably.

Not just for the music, but for the album covers in general. The way trance dudes plaster themselves on the albums turns me off more than the unce-unce itself.

I couldn't imagine going to the store and buying a product that looks like that.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

You don't even like some Marilyn Manson Coma White Amirox? "A pill to make you numb, a pill you dumb, a pill to make you anybody else. all the drugs in this world wont save her for herself." Industrial metal.

 

[Mr Cola]

Heavy metal, out of all the genres i dont get it, i may dislike other stuff but i can usually identify a beat to it, or see where someone could find some enjoyment in it. But Heavy metal is just loud noise, its nothing, its like banging together trash lids and calling it music, technically you maybe right, but for the life of me i just hear unpleasant loud noise.

Heavy metal sucks ass

 

[Technosteve]

people hating on jazz probably never learned a musical instrument to appreciate improvisation

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Heavy metal, out of all the genres i dont get it, i may dislike other stuff but i can usually identify a beat to it, or see where someone could find some enjoyment in it. But Heavy metal is just loud noise, its nothing, its like banging together trash lids and calling it music, technically you maybe right, but for the life of me i just hear unpleasant loud noise.

Heavy metal sucks ass

Here's a good sludge metal band, Acid Bath, that has death/heavy metal influences.
Also if some of you don't like metal in general...
Scream of the butterfly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuDMZAvf5gw
Venus Blue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpCM5X9ugCo

 

[OmegaDragon]

Now I can't necessarily speak for anyone else but myself, but people say those things about Death Metal not just because we don't like the sound. It literally sounds like noise. Loud, grating, distortion, screaming, very dissonant. That sounds like straight up noise to me.

Once you get used to the loudness/harshness of the music, you should notice it's not just noise. I cant see how you can describe something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNKl1KqmFeI or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LXlV1bWNo as just noise. Some bands do have a certain sounds that makes it quite difficult. Personally I also have troubles with lots of brutal/tech death bands, even though I am used to death metal. Of course if you have an aversion to loud/harsh sounds, then you should just not bother

The one thing that I don't like about some of these types of music, I have to say, is that most of the fans I see in festivals and with which I have to share the space in order to see the band are either stupid, disgusting or assholes, and many times all of those things combined. I sometimes feel really ashamed of admitting I like the bands that some of those dickheads are wearing t-shirts of.

Really? Most metal shows I've been to the public has been quite pleasant. At least they never registered as obnoxious.

So lately I'm into stuff like Ulver, Agalloch, Emperor, Nest, Immortal, Decapitation, Wolves in the Throne Room, Mirrorthrone, Ahab, Ea, Altar of Plagues Moonsorrow, Enslaved, Deathspell Omega, etc..

:O Awesome bands

 

[Chris R]

I actually can listen to pretty much anything, with only a few exceptions. Can't stand scream metal. Not going to classify it as any specific genre because any band can scream incoherent lyrics. Also don't particularly enjoy ultra twangy country or some of whatever is currently called "pop".

 

[MNC]

Hardcore, Death Metal.

 

[Apath]

This song has a special place in hell reserved for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBClImpnfAg

Spoiler

FUNK SOUL BROTHER

It's the same fucking thing over and over.

 

[ATF487]

This song has a special place in hell reserved for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBClImpnfAg

Spoiler

FUNK SOUL BROTHER

It's the same fucking thing over and over.

Fifa 98!

 

[forknknife]

Once you get used to the loudness/harshness of the music, you should notice it's not just noise. I cant see how you can describe something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNKl1KqmFeI or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LXlV1bWNo as just noise. Some bands do have a certain sounds that makes it quite difficult. Personally I also have troubles with lots of brutal/tech death bands, even though I am used to death metal. Of course if you have an aversion to loud/harsh sounds, then you should just not bother



Really? Most metal shows I've been to the public has been quite pleasant. At least they never registered as obnoxious.



:O Awesome bands

I might have exaggerated, I must recognize, but yeah, there are certainly lots of people like that in metal festivals. But maybe I think like that because I'm not the standard metal fan (maybe I wear a band t-shirt, but otherwise I look pretty normal and I clean myself everyday)

 

[NGAMER9]

People saying metal is not music is hilarious. Most metal has more musical ability and advanced structures and theory than the majority of other genres. I mean, I knew people would be saying metal but I can't believe how many people have said it. I hated growling and harsh vocals too, but at one point I got a Meshuggah record and after a few listens I just got used to it, and it opened a lot of music to me.

 

[Tears For Fears]

Metal, POP,Industrial,mainstream hiphop,emo,

 

[HappyBivouac]

people hating on jazz probably never learned a musical instrument to appreciate improvisation

I have a friend who is really good on the violin, and she worships the "greats" of classical music, but when I talk about jazz she's like "it all just sounds jumbled and random. there's no composition!" and I have to suppress my nerd rage.

: (

 

[Aske]

While the improvised melodies are not random, I can understand why you would think so.

It blows my mind to hear you say that about all jazz vocalists. I really don't know what to say here. Maybe that if you can't find a jazz singer that you like you probably don't like singers.:lol

Yeah, the pretentious part I don't get without some more explanation. Neither the trying to hard part. The emotional response can range in wildly different directions depending on the song. I'm sure there is a song out there that would resonate with you on an emotional level. That's just a generalization I don't think anyone can make about any genre of music.

I fully admit that I am no expert on the genre, and it's hard to intelligently criticize anything you don't know much about. Those are just some thoughts I have about my distaste for the genre after reflecting on the initial question. I've heard plenty of Jazz, and haven't liked any of it. That's a reflection on my preferences, not on the genre. People find out I don't care for Jazz, and they try to get me to come around. I listen to what they play me, and I understand why they're into it, but none of it clicks with me personally. It just triggers an emotion on a sliding scale from apathy to irritation. As for the pretentious thing - if you've never heard any Jazz that felt painfully self-indulgent, I guess you won't see where I'm coming from with that comment. It's just another subjective opinion, but one I've heard echoed elsewhere; even amongst Jazz fans.

I also can't stand screaming vocals, or even people who are just not good singers in general. If you can barely hold a tune, don't expect me to listen to your song. I need a singer that has shown some amount of technical skill. Tone, vibrato, pitch, improvisation. Just a good level of control over their voice and the ability to do many different things with it. Just like any other member of the band, the singer is using their voice as an instrument; I like it when they treat it as such. I know some people think emotion over technical skill, but why not desire both? I'd argue that the best singers in the world have both.

I understand a preference for a style that showcases a particular skill. For those of us who appreciate non-traditional vocals, I think the key is hearing someone who is good at what they're trying to do. I hate hearing anyone try to carry a tune and failing, but I appreciate roaring vocals that make no attempt at melody if they hit the mark. I need two things: first I have to enjoy the sound for what it is on an abstract level (hate the belching cookie-monster style for example, and the shouting-whispher thing so many melodic DM bands use), and second, I need the sound to be used appropriately in the context of a song. If a guy is using his voice as a rhythmic instrument - almost percussively, as is often the case with Death Metal vocals - it doesn't need melody; and in fact melodic vocals would detract from the song as a whole. And though you may scoff, good DM vocals require a degree of technical ability, albeit not in the traditional sense. There are a lot of guys out there trying to do things with their voices that don't hit the mark - they're failing to achieve the sound they're aiming for, because their voices need to be trained up.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

DUBSTEP, DUBSTEP, DUBSTEP!

Music is a huge part of my life. When there is a genre of music I don't particularly like it actually makes me a little sad, so I go out of my way to research tons and tons of bands in that particular genre until I find something redeeming about the genre. When I thought I hated Emo I went and discovered Daphne Loves Derby, when I thought I hated everything about 70's rock I went and discovered Electric Light Orchestra. When I thought I hated modern hip-hop I discovered N.E.R.D....and the list goes on.

I've found absolutely nothing redeeming about this pile of shit people call 'dubstep'. In fact, most of the songs I found 'tolerable' were just remixes of dance songs with 'dirty' bass added to them. The 'dirty' bass is what ruins this entire genre. I'll try and be listening to a song and someone will be like "oh no, dude, wait for this part right here.. the bass is so DIRTY, man!" and then it sounds like a bullfrog attempting to sing death metal through a broken amp.

That's the part that boggles my mind the most. The part of this particular genre that people seem to enjoy the most (of the people I've talked to) is the part of the song that is essentially 'ruined'. The 'dirty' part of the song.

Absolute and utter shit.

 

[Outlaw]

I'd just like to add that without harsh vocals, you wouldn't have death metal


You'd have Flower Metal



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kObI4XuTR2o&feature=channel



Can you imagine this song with clean vocals?


Symphonic Black Metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3wagWwHjM&feature=related




So yeah, harsh vocals make sense.