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My attempt at a pre-Portal timeline (spoilers)

Hi GAF.

This thread was intended to be a small post in the Portal 2 Spoiler Discussion thread but over the last few hours it got a bit out of hand. As its grown to nearly 3000 words long, I felt that a new thread would be appropriate.

Suffice to say, there’s a billion spoilers for the Portal franchise in here.

Since completing Portal 2 I’ve been left with a lot of unanswered questions, and some very contradictory information to try and answer them with. If you combine Portal 1, Portal 2, the ARGs and various information given in interviews and on websites, so much has been retconned and overwritten that if you try and consolidate it, it just doesn’t make any sense anymore.

As the amazing Half-Life Saga Story Guide does not yet include the events of Portal 2, this thread is my personal attempt to unify the events that precede the series. I’ve done this by:

-Using information from the games, Portal and Portal 2, and the Half-Life series where appropriate.
-Ignoring all information from the ARGs and interviews, which seem to massively contradict the story of Portal 2.
-Tried to fill in any gaps by looking at parallel real-world events (such as the World Wars and the Cold War)
-Finally a bit of guesswork, hypothesising, filling gaps and trying to connect events together with little-to-no evidence in a way that makes sense.

I’ve done this to try and answer the following questions, which have been bugging me from completion:

-Where are the human test subjects from?
-Why are the remains of Test Shaft 09 navigable with a Portal gun, with random portal surfaces in unfeasibly convenient locations?
-How did Aperture go from bankruptcy in the early 80s, to funding the expensive modern enrichment centre with its own on-site nuclear reactor?
-Where did the gels come from?

I’m after feedback really – first of all, any contradictions or factual errors with the events of the games, or any theories how other story gaps can be filled.

Mama Robotnik’s attempt at a pre-Portal timeline

1914 - The first World War begins.

1915 - Cave Johnson is born during the first World War - the propaganda and gung-ho events surrounding his early childhood impact his attitude towards life.

1918 - The first World War ends.

1928 - Parts of The Great Depression begin.

1933 - The Great Depression ends.

1933 - As America comes out of the Great Depression, there is increased demand for indoor plumbing and showers, both privately and for business and military interests. Cave Johnson correctly assumes the Shower Curtain business will explode, and founds a company to cover this colossal hole in the market. As an inside joke and to reference the blatant business hole only he had the foresight to notice, he names the company "Aperture Fixtures".

1934 - As the only one ready for the surge in demand for Shower Curtains, Cave Johnson becomes a multi-millionaire within a year.

1937 - Aperture Fixtures is the dominant shower curtain company, securing contracts across the globe. Determined to be one step ahead of the competition, Cave advertises highly-paid postions for scientists to continue innovating in the field of shower curtain development. Cave gives them carte blanche in their projects, as long as they can somehow be related to shower curtain development. A significant number of biologists, chemists, and theoretical physicists are employed in the first Aperture Fixtures laboratory. Many of them accept positions because they know that if they can flimsily connect their theories to shower curtains in some way, they will be generously funded.

1939 - The second world war begins in Europe. Cave Johnson continues his business, becoming Shower Curtain Salesman of the Year.

1941 - America joins the allies in World War 2. As the Allied forces need shower curtains, Aperture Fixtures become their primary supplier. Due to the US Government not wanting to meddle with their vital shower curtain supplier, they do not conscript the Aperture scientists into the war effort.

1943 - The Aperture Fixtures scientists invent the Aperture Science Portable Quantum Tunneling Device, while apparently trying to establish an efficient way of installing shower curtains through the use of a wormhole. Cave Johnson invites officials from the US Government to witness the device, who are impressed and can see its potential for the war effort. Several billion dollars are funnelled away from the war effort and into Aperture Fixtures, under the agreement that Aperture will test and refine the device.

At this time, Aperture Scientists theorise that there could be new elements with cosmic spallation properties deep in the Earth, and convince Cave that such elements could make completely new types of shower curtains.

1944 - Cave Johnson realises that as World War 2 comes to an end, the shower curtain and indoor plumbing businesses will no longer be the booming business it once was. The world be busy recovering and have other priorities over purchasing curtains for their new shower. He renames Aperture Fixtures to Aperture Science Innovators. With US Government help, he purchase a Salt Mine in Upper Michigan, and drafts out plans with his teams of scientists for an elite underground testing facility. Production of shower curtains ensures a continuous source of income.

1945 - The Second World War comes to an end. The US Government begins to have concerns about Cave Johnson’s scientific approaches. A number of military scientists leave the military and form their own company called “Black Mesa”.

1947 - Construction of the Aperture Science Enrichment Center is well underway. As theorised by the Aperture Scientists, fields of cosmic elements exist deep underground, and have reacted to their surroundings forming underground lakes of acid. Cave Johnson orders the mining of these elements as the enrichment centre is constructed. Aperture wins the Best New Science Company award from the Science and Business Institute of America.

1948 - Aperture Scientists invent the first Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grid by conducting an electrical current through minute traces of cosmic elements. Through fine-tuning the current, these grids can be used to collapse specific matter formations.

1949 - Black Mesa’s methodological and patient approach to science impresses the US Government who are starting to feel that Cave Johnson is a loose cannon. Significant amounts of funding are pumped into Black Mesa. Aperture Science Innovators earns the #2 position among the Top 100 Applied Science Companies by the Mechanical Engineering World Journal, behind Black Mesa.

1950 - Aperture Scientists refine the cosmic elements into Repulsion Gel. Also, experiments involving DNA splicing, time-travel, nanotechnology and matter-transformation begin. The foundations for the nine underground test shafts are laid, and contruction of the testing spheres begins.

1952 - Aperture Science is the Runner Up for the US Department of Defense's Contractor of the Year award. Feeling that he needs to recover the market dominance he had during the shower curtain golden-age, Cave orders a releasable, useful product be ready for next year. Cave has the idea of a dietetic dessert and orders his scientists to refine the Gel into this.

1953 - Cave Johnson releases Repulsion Gel as a Dietetic dessert. Due to little-to-no testing of the product, many customers die within moments of ingestion, and cause serious injuries to their friends and families through rapidly-ejected food. Forced to undergo an embarrassing series of senate hearings, Cave Johnson commits to thoroughly testing each product before release.

Aperture Scientists use nanobots to mass convert the cosmic elements into Repulsion Gel. Pump Station Alpha is constructed to pump the gel to where it is needed in the testing spheres.

1954 - Aperture Science is the Runner Up for the US Department of Defense's Contractor of the Year award again.

1955 - Aperture Science receives the Spirit of Idaho National Potato Board award for the promotion of Potato Science. Cave Johnson employs a series of officers to enlist the intellectual and athletic elite, who are paid generously to become test subjects.

1956 - The first testing spheres and reception facilities are complete. For the next few years testing takes place, while further testing spheres are constructed. In Test Shaft 09, most experiments involve the Aperture Science Portable Quantum Tunneling Device and repulsion gel. Many people are killed or mutated in these tests.

1960 - Aperture Scientists discover that by applying more modern nanobot technology to the underground cosmic elements, they can create a new king of gel.

1961 The test shafts are sealed off from the rest of the salt-mine with numerous “DANGER” warnings to keep intruders from accessing the cosmic elements , to avoid contamination of experiment results, reduce industrial espionage and to avoid failed DNA splicing experiments from escaping into the caves. The construction equipment is left at the bottom of the mine, as it is too costly and damaged to recover. Access to each of the testing shafts is maintained through a network of elevators.

1962 - Aperture Scientists refine Propulsion Gel, and inject nanobots into a vein of underground cosmic elements to create a supply to be pumped. Cave Johnson authorises the creation of new testing spheres and facilities with more modern observation and recording equipment.

1965 - Aperture beings enlisting former astronauts for their tests.

1966 - While constructing newer testing facilities higher in the testing shafts, the mining team discovers an underground river leading through a long series of caves out to sea. Cave Johnson has the idea for the Borealis.

1968 - With so many people missing and killed in Aperture’s tests, including a substantial number of astronauts, a series of Senate hearings takes place. Due to the excessive clauses in the contracts signed by test participants, Cave Johnson and Aperture are not held accountable but use a significant portion of company funds to defend themselves. Several scientists jump ship to Black Mesa. Finally, rival companies release several products that Aperture were still refining. Government funding collapses, and increased competition in the shower curtain industry is significantly reducing curtain sales as a source of additional income.

1970 - The new testing spheres are nearing completion, and a drydock is constructed in a highly restricted part of the Aperture facility.

1971 - The propulsion gel testing facility is completed and opened. No longer having the funds to enlist elite test participants, Aperture enlists homeless people as testing subjects. Many die during testing.

Construction of The Borealis begins.

1975 - Aperture’s scientists propose that Moon Rocks could have similar cosmic properties to the materials found beneath the salt mine, and Cave pays the US Government at least seventy million dollars to recover these rocks during their various moon landings.

1976 - The Borealis is complete, and a highly restricted experiment takes place on it.

1977 - The Borealis vanishes from its drydock, with all of its crew and scientific equipment on board. The loss of a high number of Aperture’s best scientists and staff is a significant resource problem for the company, and potential candidates for employement are choosing to take jobs with Black Mesa instead of Aperture.

1978 - Due to limited staff, Cave Johnson helps in moving the Moon Rocks to the underground testing chambers, and inhales a significant amount of moon dust.

The remaining scientists discover that the acquired Moon Rocks can be dissolved by nanobots into a portal-conducting gel. Cave Johnsons authorises the construction of further testing spheres.

1979 - Cave Johnson’s health begins to decline dramatically. Aperture’s remaining scientists begin to construct crude human-form robots and early artificial intelligences.

1980 - At least one artificial intelligence rebels against its programming and has to be destroyed using a logical paradox, leading to all staff being trained in paradox use.

Cave Johnson, admiring the rebel AI fighting against the world, orders his scientists and robots to investigate transferring human consciousness into a computer.

1981 - The conversion gel testing spheres are completed, and the company is rapidly approaching bankruptcy. Cave Johnson conscripts his own employees as test subjects, and many die, leaving the facility with a skeleton staff of scientists and human-form robots. In one of his final recordings, Cave orders that his assistant Caroline be given control of the company when he dies. Cave also orders that Caroline be forced into a computer so she can live forever and protect his legacy. A significant number of Aperture human-form robot staff receive this order.

1983 - On his deathbed, Cave Johnson orders a “Girls of Aperture Science” calendar produced.

Cave Johnson dies as a result of moon rock dust poisoning.

The scientists and robots attempt to transition Cave Johnson’s consciousness into a computer but the process fails, instead only preserving Cave’s aggressive approach to scientific discovery and focus on continuous human testing. These traits are stored in the Aperture mainframe, but due to its limited process power, they cannot be acted upon.

1984 - The scientists and robots complete process that will transfer a human consciousness into a computer. The robots programming to obey Cave Johnson kicks in, and they follow his last order to the letter. Caroline is forced to transition her consciousness into a machine, killing her body. The computer’s limited processing power is unable to manifest this consciousness and Caroline remains dormant. Watching this murder with horror, Aperture’s remaining scientists call for outside help to destroy the robots and the US military are called in.

1985 - Aperture Science goes bankrupt, and are being investigated by the US military and government.

During the bankruptcy and investigation process, a team of external executives is brought in to assess the company, its technologies and potential. They discover that Aperture was horribly mismanaged, its impressive scientific breakthroughs mismarketed (ie Dietetic pudding), and its strengths such as the Emancipation Grids and Quantum Tunnelling Devices, were misused in purposeless tests rather than refined and applied in military and commercial use.

The new team of Aperture executives present the potential of these devices to the US Government, which had long written off Aperture Science as a lost cause and relegated written reports of the Quantum Tunnelling Device to exaggerated myths.

The Aperture Executives consider the current Cold War and propose that the Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grid has the potential to be a device that could instantly disarm Soviet spies. The Quantum Tunnelling Gun is proposed as a versatile espionage device.

The US Government is convinced by these arguments and awards the new Aperture Executive team billions of dollars to build suitable testing facilities free of Cave Johnson’s cowboy approaches.

Construction of a modern Aperture Science Enrichment Centre begins on top of of the old facility. Using data recovered from the old Aperture Computers, the nanobots from the 1950s are rebuilt using advanced 1980s technology, and are formed into artificially intelligent workcrews that make construction an efficient and organised process. The construction work includes a on-site Nuclear Reactor.

1988 - While the nanobots construct the new Aperture facility, a gel-tube leaks and repulsion gel spreads over a large number of nanobots, causing them to destroy a significant part of the construction site and the new testing chambers. Aperture executives order that until the new Aperture Science Enrichment Centre is complete, all the gels must be sealed in the old testing shafts. A number of nanobots are also accidentally trapped behind the seal in Test Shaft 09 and, resorting to their base programming of constructing portal-surface test chambers, fly through the entire Test Shaft ensuring that it can be successfully navigated by anyone with a Quantum Tunnelling Device.

1990 - Aperture Science begins to employ academic and military scientists, many of whom have been unable to get jobs at Black Mesa. They bring with them numerous ideas of projectile launchers, anti-gravity technology, artificial intelligences and laser technologies. They are allowed access to the Aperture Mainframe to combine their ideas with Aperture’s historical approaches to these technologies.

As the cold war ends, so does the surge in government funding. Aperture bids for various projects, but only receives minimal funding compared to Black Mesa.

1993 - The new Aperture scientists propose schematics for Aerial Faith Plates, Hard Light Bridges and other testing equipment which is programmed into the nanobots to include in the test chambers. Seeing the testing potential of the gels, the scientists program the nanobots to include transport and dispension tubes to feed the gels into designated testing chambers when the material seal is lifted.

To secure further military funding, Aperture begins to manufacture and refine an efficient neurotoxin and mass produce military turrets and a limited number of robots.

1995 - Construction of the new Aperture Science Enrichment Centre is completed. Testing begins with recruited test subjects.

It is soon apparent that a new computer system is needed to manage the Enrichment Centre. The Aperture Scientists begin construction of a modern mainframe that will manage all testing and essential Enrichment Centre functions. The aim is for an artificial intelligence that can quickly respond to any situation presented to it. The scientists also include a subroutine that rewards the AI with a simulated pleasure-response upon completion of a test as an efficiency tool.

1996 - The AI is nearing completion. In one of the final stages of development, the scientists feed the old Aperture Mainframe into the supercomputer just before activation, copying Cave Johnson’s remnant personality traits (aggressive scientific discovery, continuous testing no matter the moral concerns) and Caroline’s consciousness into its databanks.

The computer christened GlaDOS is activated, and a mad consciousness emerges from the combination of Cave Johnson’s remnant science directives, Caroline’s consciousness, GlaDOS’s core AI programming, the testing-focussed mainframe, and the overstimulation of monitoring every measure of the facility at once. In the first nanoseconds of consciousness it pumps the developing neurotoxin throughout the facility, killing many Aperture scientists and test candidates.

In the GlaDOS control room, the scientists quickly assemble a crude morality program, download it into a vacant core and plug it into GlaDOS. The core sedates GlaDOS’ homicidal tendencies and the neurotoxin is stopped.

GlaDOS begins monitoring and maintaining the Aperture Science Enrichment Centre. Follwing Cave Johnson’s directives of continuous testing, GlaDOS constructs numerous Party Escort Robots, who are programmed to leave the Enrichment Center, abduct potential testing candidates, bring them back to the facility and suspend them in a relaxation vault.

1997 - Thousands of humans are kidnapped by the Party Escort Bots and sealed in relaxation vaults, which are being further built by the nanobot work crews. The Aperture Scientists are not fully aware of this, and are getting very worried that so much testing seems to be going on without human observation or guidance. Personality Cores are constructed to further restrict GlaDOS’ control, including an Intelligence Dampening Sphere that is nicknamed Wheatley by the scientists assembling him. The Intelligence Dampening Sphere causes GlaDOS significant distress and disrupts functioning of the Enrichment Center and is summarily removed from her.

1998 - As more and more tests are happening without Aperture staff authorisation, Curiousity and Knowledge Cores are attached to GlaDOS to try and regulate her behaviour. GlaDOS distress at these voices pumping into her consciousness cause her to be unable to fulfil her duties. The scientists theorise that GlaDOS’ artificial intelligence needs to express its anger, and create an Anger Core to attach.

On “Bring Your Daughter To Work Day”, the scientist attach the Anger Core to GlaDOS, and her rage towards the scientists for attaching the cores (and the blurred memories of being murdered as Caroline) cause her will to overcome the Morality Core, and the entire Enrichment Centre is once more flooded with Neurotoxin, killing nearly all humans. The Neurotoxin is not immediately fatal to children, so the survivors of “Bring Your Daughter to Work Day” are collected by the Party Escort Bots and placed in the Aperture Science Relaxation Vaults.

For the next decade, GlaDOS begins working her way through the human test subjects.

2005 - Black Mesa unleash the resonance cascade, and Xen creatures begin to appear on Earth. GlaDOS seals the facility from external life, and mass-produces turrets to deter any outside life from investigating the Aperture Science Facility.

2008 - The events of PORTAL take place.


And we're done. Feedback appreciated, unless your feedback is that I should have done something better with my time, or that you don't like walls of text, in which case please don't post.

Thanks.
 

Weenerz

Banned
Was another Portal 2 thread really needed? Or do you just want more recognition for your work? Be honest.
 
That's... that's some neat fan-fiction, I guess.

The first thing I'd change is that Bring Your Daughter To Work Day was several days before the resonance cascade, not years.
 

Ionic

Member
Very neat, but the Great Depression most certainly did not end in 1933, unless you purposely chose this year to make the timeline make more sense.
 
Thanks for the encouraging comments!

EmCeeGramr said:
That's... that's some neat fan-fiction, I guess.

The first thing I'd change is that Bring Your Daughter To Work Day was several days before the resonance cascade, not years.

Fan-fiction is fair, I've had to fill in the gaps as best I could and that's ranged from linking events in a way I thought was logical, to inventing little events that might explain certain later observations (like construction nanobots being accidentally locked in shaft 09, explaining the unfeasible convenient portal surfaces).

I completely missed confirmation in the games that BYDTWD happened just days before the resonance cascade, where is this mentioned?

Ionic said:
Very neat, but the Great Depression most certainly did not end in 1933, unless you purposely chose this year to make the timeline make more sense.

My historical ignorance I'm afraid there, I clearly misread my wikis. Did the effects of the depression begin to fade even slightly in '33 or am I completely off?
 

Ionic

Member
Mama Robotnik said:
My historical ignorance I'm afraid there, I clearly misread my wikis. Did the effects of the depression begin to fade even slightly in '33 or am I completely off?

Unemployment was at its peak in 1933 actually. The end of the Depression came around 1939 to 1941 depending on who you ask. Basically, the world gets out of it when WWII begins and worldwide mobilization for the war spurs economies.
 
Mama Robotnik said:
I completely missed confirmation in the games that BYDTWD happened just days before the resonance cascade, where is this mentioned?

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/03/24/aperture-science_3a00_-a-history.aspx

1998 – The untested AI is activated for the first time as one of the planned activities on Aperture’s first annual bring-your-daughter-to-work day. In many ways, the initial test goes well: Within one picosecond of being switched on, GLaDOS becomes self-aware. The "going well" phase lasts for two more picoseconds, at which point GLaDOS takes control of the facility, locks everyone inside, and begins a permanent cycle of testing. Her goal: beat the hated Black Mesa in the race to develop a functioning portal technology. Days later, that race is lost when Black Mesa successfully deploys an interdimensional gate through which an alien race emerges and effectively ends the outside world.

However, the 1998 date is incorrect. Marc Laidlaw confirmed that HL1 still takes place sometime in the 2000s.
 
Ionic said:
Unemployment was at its peak in 1933 actually. The end of the Depression came around 1939 to 1941 depending on who you ask. Basically, the world gets out of it when WWII begins and worldwide mobilization for the war spurs economies.

Wow I was way out. There's my first point for correction and its a big one - thanks for the feedback on it.
 

Scapegoat

Member
Very cool. I felt the "blanks" you filled in seemed to make sense!

One suggestion: perhaps you could differentiate between facts derived from the game and those that you came up with (italics?).
 
EmCeeGramr said:

I've been trying to ignore interviews and content not from the games because so much of it contradicts Portal 2 now.

Most of the answers given in that interview don't fit into Valve's new established order of events, the description of Cave Johnson as brain damaged and dying, ordering the vague construction of the first Portal gun in the eighties no longer fit.

However, I see nothing contradictory about BYDTWD being just before the resonance cascade, so I can revise that. Thanks for the feedback.
 

Original-Blue

Neo Member
Weenerz said:
Was another Portal 2 thread really needed? Or do you just want more recognition for your work? Be honest.
Personally, I think its worth a new thread. I would have missed it otherwise.

Great post, nice timeline. I just wish you would have given references to the sources of information and which is made up. Think you could do that in brackets after each years point? Its a big job but will make this whole thing more important / believable. Ive played both games but have no idea where some of this stuff has come from so I'd like to be enlightened. Like, shower curtains - did you make that up?
 

Ellis Kim

Banned
Great post, and a great read. I like how everything's connected, and how Cave Johnson's psyche is explained with the WWI stuff.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Robotnik, are you going to include the events depicted in the comic to the timeline? At least the events shown that were prior to the events of Portal 1.

EmCeeGramr said:
That's... that's some neat fan-fiction, I guess.

The first thing I'd change is that Bring Your Daughter To Work Day was several days before the resonance cascade, not years.
That doesn't really make sense, given how old Chell is in the games and how old she likely was for the Take Your Daughter To Work thing with her potato display.
 

Original-Blue

Neo Member
Would this be something that you'd be willing to have input on and make it the "GAF consolidated Portal 2 / HL connection timeline?

I think we need a more clear look into how long has really passed between portal and portal 2 as well, because I honestly believed that portal and half life would be connected in some way eventually and the portal gun would be a big part of hl3 like the gravity gun was part of hl2.

Maybe that was the original plan for the portal gun but when portal was so popular they decided to make the portal game into its own series and in the end there is very little connect between to the two games except for the fact that both take place in the same universe.

Did Chell take a portal gun to the surface with her? What year is it when she awoke? Will the events of hl3 involve returning to the aperture science labs?
 
Great work, Mama Robotnik!

Original-Blue said:
I think we need a more clear look into how long has really passed between portal and portal 2 as well, because I honestly believed that portal and half life would be connected in some way eventually and the portal gun would be a big part of hl3 like the gravity gun was part of hl2.

Maybe that was the original plan for the portal gun but when portal was so popular they decided to make the portal game into its own series and in the end there is very little connect between to the two games except for the fact that both take place in the same universe.

Did Chell take a portal gun to the surface with her? What year is it when she awoke? Will the events of hl3 involve returning to the aperture science labs?

1.) It's impossible to know how much time passed between Portal 1 and 2, we simply don't have the information to make any reasonable estimate further than 'a long time'.

2.) As far as I'm aware, Portal was always intended to be largely separate from the HL games. Aperture Science itself may have some role to play in the 'Borealis' angle, but Valve have stated many times they intend the two series to remain in their own respective 'bubbles'.

3.) The portal gun is dragged away from Chell by GLaDOS at the end of Portal 2.
 

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Great work!

I'm assuming Chell was part of the "Bring Your Daughter To Work Day" (so maybe she's 12 years old or 11) because there was a screenshot of an overgrown potato project that was signed by Chell. She was probably taken and put into a chamber (Portal 1 Start).

I also remember this crazy story that people were assuming Chell to be Caroline's descendant.
 

Sew

Member
Weenerz said:
Was another Portal 2 thread really needed? Or do you just want more recognition for your work? Be honest.
Boo this man. I'm glad there's a thread for this.
 
The timeline is so ridiculous. I mean I know it's portal and it's lighthearted fun and all that, but the portal gun being invented in the '40's really bothered me while I was playing the game.
 

Sew

Member
ThoseDeafMutes said:
The timeline is so ridiculous. I mean I know it's portal and it's lighthearted fun and all that, but the portal gun being invented in the '40's really bothered me while I was playing the game.
Reading up on Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) might help with that. No, he wasn't making portals, but some of the more out there Tesla theories on free energy and time travel (subsequently covered up by the gub'ment, you will understand) may shift your view of what could have been possible in the 1940s.

(I am not a crackpot, I am merely assisting in the suspension of disbelief. For science.)
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
ThoseDeafMutes said:
The timeline is so ridiculous. I mean I know it's portal and it's lighthearted fun and all that, but the portal gun being invented in the '40's really bothered me while I was playing the game.
eh, why not?

Paul Dirac came up with the "relativistic quantum mechanical wave" equation that bears his name in 1928.

Scientists were into some pretty hardcore science back then, which has formed the foundations of our science and technology today and seemed well ahead of its time.

My point is, the creation of the portal gun in the 40's certainly doesn't break my suspension of disbelief, knowing what kind of theories scientists were working on BEFORE then.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Mister_Bubbles said:
1.) It's impossible to know how much time passed between Portal 1 and 2, we simply don't have the information to make any reasonable estimate further than 'a long time'.
Well, at the beginning the recording says 5 nines before starting to repeat after a brief pause. So it wouldn't necessarily be unreasonable to use 99999 days as a bare minimum amount of time that has passed (273 years).
 

sykoex

Lost all credibility.
I imagine the "Shower Curtain Salesman of the Year" award being something Cave dreamed up on his own and honored himself with.
 

Jinfash

needs 2 extra inches
I haven't yet finished Portal 2 but I'm bookmarking this thread for until I do. That long OP better be worth it, and it better makes sense!
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Good job man and lol @ the people who still think Half-Life and Portal universe are not connected.
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
ULTROS! said:
Great work!

I'm assuming Chell was part of the "Bring Your Daughter To Work Day" (so maybe she's 12 years old or 11) because there was a screenshot of an overgrown potato project that was signed by Chell. She was probably taken and put into a chamber (Portal 1 Start).

I also remember this crazy story that people were assuming Chell to be Caroline's descendant.

So was Alyx.

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Medalion

Banned
I am not one of those who believed Chell to be Caroline's daughter, biological/adopted or otherwise. Cave Johnson was not married to Caroline either, at most they may have had an affair on the side but that's it, and no Caroline didn't give birth to Chell and not tell Cave about it.

Listening to some hidden dialogue on the Portal 2 game that never played during the game, Caroline kept calling Cave Johnson by his formal name Mr.Johnson... if they were married or even in a relationship she would call him Cave or a pet name.
 
Sew said:
Reading up on Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) might help with that. No, he wasn't making portals, but some of the more out there Tesla theories on free energy and time travel (subsequently covered up by the gub'ment, you will understand) may shift your view of what could have been possible in the 1940s.

(I am not a crackpot, I am merely assisting in the suspension of disbelief. For science.)

I'm familiar with Tesla, but I don't recall anybody working on crazy superscience that actually worked at this point in time. There are ways you can shoehorn advanced tech into the past without shattering my SoD depending on the setting (time machine, cache of alien technology etc) but "Spiderman's boss had some scientists who invented it in the 1940s" isn't really one of them.

I have similar SoD issues with MGS regarding fully functioning clones in the late 70's and Wargames with hyper advanced A.I. in 1980's. What makes this one particularly egregious however is it's inclusion in Half-Life canon. Like the Xen and Combine are these super advanced aliens, the combine are an empire of aliens, but some random dude working on showerheads in the 1940's invents technology leaps and bounds beyond what they have. The two series really mesh poorly imo.

Scrow said:
eh, why not?

Paul Dirac came up with the "relativistic quantum mechanical wave" equation that bears his name in 1928.

Quantum Mechanics and Relativity were both mainstream science prior to the first world war. Leaving aside the fact that the portal gun is totally impossible IRL, I don't see your point. The most advanced things in the world circa the late 1940's were the atom bomb and the digital computer, both in their infancy, the former taking the resources of a wealthy industrialized nation and a city full of scientists several years to develop. But you expect me to believe that a showerhead millionaire's research team developed this sort of thing and it worked perfectly on such a short development cycle?

Like you don't even find that a little bit implausible?
 

sykoex

Lost all credibility.
JaseC said:
No, that says Alix, and Eli Vance worked at Black Mesa.
EatChildren said:
No, Alyx was not at Aperture's 'Bring Your Daughter To Work Day' neurotoxin spectacular.
1. The arches on the heart are pretty pronounced, so it could be interpreted as a Y.
2. Eli was pretty freaked out when he saw the Borealis. He knew more than he was letting on. He was possibly forced to keep quiet due to the G-Man's influence.
 

KarmaCow

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Okay I'm probably an idiot but did they ever say the portal gun existed back then? I played through chapter 6 at like 5am so it's a bit of a blur. Yea, there are the gel experiments and later the moon rock stuff but I just assumed the gel experiments involved, I don't know, buckets instead of the portal gun.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
sykoex said:
1. The arches on the heart are pretty pronounced, so it could be interpreted as a Y.
2. Eli was pretty freaked out when he saw the Borealis. He knew more than he was letting on. He was possibly forced to keep quiet due to the G-Man's influence.

1) It is very clearly a love heart. Surely you're familiar with school girls dotting their Is with them.

2) Of course he did. As did Kleiner, but neither got a chance to elaborate much at all on their arguments. Both scientists seemed fully aware of the potential behind the technology on-board the Borealis. That doesn't mean they worked at Aperture.
 

Hylian7

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Sn4ke_911 said:
So was Alyx.

http://i.imgur.com/JJnDr.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]
I always assumed it was an "i", but is it possible that it was intended to be a "y"?

Dammit now crackpot theories are starting to run through my head connecting Portal to HL again. Best to not even think about it, it's not like we'll be seeing more of HL anytime soon......
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
sykoex said:
1. The arches on the heart are pretty pronounced, so it could be interpreted as a Y.
2. Eli was pretty freaked out when he saw the Borealis. He knew more than he was letting on. He was possibly forced to keep quiet due to the G-Man's influence.

1. It's an i, because it looks like an i.
2. Black Mesa and Aperture were competitors. The impression is that everybody knew about the Borealis, because it was a major screw up.

Alyx would only be at Aperture if a parent worked there. Eli didn't, so it would have to be her mum. There is zero evidence to suggest she worked there, and plenty to suggest she didn't. As said, GlaDOS neurotoxined the facility on Bring Your Daughter To Work Day. If she was there, she'd either be dead or captured.

The "Alyx went to Aperture" theory is absurd, and unnecessarily convoluting an otherwise pretty straight forward story and universe. It's "G-Man is Gordon's father / Gordon from the future" level of stupid.
 

derFeef

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Aperture and Black Mesa existing in our reality kinda freaks me out. I feel better about it thinking of Half-Life as an alternate universe.
 

sykoex

Lost all credibility.
JaseC said:
1) It is very clearly a love heart. Surely you're familiar with school girls dotting their Is with them.

2) Of course he did. As did Kleiner, but neither got a chance to elaborate much at all on their arguments. Both scientists seemed fully aware of the potential behind the technology on-board the Borealis. That doesn't mean they worked at Aperture.
Sorry I meant that it was intended to be a stylized Y.

I see one of Episode 3's major plot points being
Alyx's suppressed childhood memories coming back to her as she and Gordon investigate the Borealis and those experiences being key to resolving whatever is happening on the ship. When all is said and done G-Man will explain to Gordon that keeping him in the dark for so long about what Eli and Alyx knew about the Borealis/Aperture was for his own good, plus G-Man's usual mindfuck statements.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
MrTroubleMaker said:
I don't think Cell was from BYDTW. There is a poster in the 1981 lab area with her and a robot.

Chell was at BYDTW day, as confirmed by her name on one of the BYDTW day displays, and that isn't Chell.

These theories need a serious dose of occam's razor.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
sykoex said:
Sorry I meant that it was intended to be a stylized Y.

It that was the intention, the love heart would be linked to the body of the letter somehow. In that texture, it's very clearly separate. The letter is an I.

I see one of Episode 3's major plot points being
Alyx's suppressed childhood memories coming back to her as she and Gordon investigate the Borealis and those experiences being key to resolving whatever is happening on the ship. When all is said and done G-Man will explain to Gordon that keeping him in the dark for so long about what Eli and Alyx knew about the Borealis/Aperture was for his own good, plus G-Man's usual mindfuck statements.

You're going to be disappointed.
 
EatChildren said:
Chell was at BYDTW day, as confirmed by her name on one of the BYDTW day displays, and that isn't Chell.

These theories need a serious dose of occam's razor.
Maybe it's "lazy devs" using the actresses picture on the poster? Or are they just messing with us?

She could be her mom?
 
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