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My Father Thinks He's A Good Person.

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Da-Kid

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So some of you guys might remember my thread I made about having a terrible roommate. I since then left to stay with my parents and save up for an apartment. This was a huge mistake.

My father has done nothing but made it unbearable. My dad has been a tyrant to the family since I could remember, always fussing and arguing with my mother about us (children at the time) and long story short, he seems to hate me, my sister and my mother for no reason other than us not being like him.

I've lost two brothers and he will throws that in my mother's face, saying things like "That's why your kids are dead" and "Your kids are dead because of you". My brothers weren't his children by blood just to clarify. He has mentally and physically abused my mother before, each time apologizing. He's stopped the physical abuse but his mental and verbal abuse is far worse.

So now let's get to what's happening now, I'll throw in some bullet points for context, then tell you all what happen.

1. My father thinks he's better than people.
2. He abuses any power he has.
3. He watches Netflix documentaries and suddenly thinks that makes him more knowledgeable. Both logically and accurately.Basically, a PhD in Netflix.
4. He's a conspiracy theorists.
5. He thinks his age and things only he's experienced makes it where anyone younger than him trying to tell him about life is inferior and a fool.

So yesterday was rent day I had to pay him $400 bucks, but of course there was a problem, SOMEHOW. So because my mother asked him if I could live there temporarily, any problem he has with me he takes out on my mother instead of just coming to me only. I'm the paying tenant. Case and point, the room I stay in was a little messy. My schedule changed at work to where I wake up at 4am to commute and make work at 6am. This has burned me out and recently when I get off of work after also commuting through two hours of bumper to bumper traffic, I have been coming home so tired that I would literally crash. I would just knock out.

Anyways, so he confronts me about this shit and just goes on and on despite me apologizing about it and explaining why and telling him I'll keep it tidy. Which he told me he didn't care. So he then tells me he's mad because my mom will help me out and clean things after me (because she knows I'm working hard and I'm very tired). So of course I asked "Well if it's all taken care of, what is the problem?" he says now that apparently my mother is somehow enabling me....... So basically it's just a lose lose situation because he despises my mother tries to help out which is pure hatred on his part. And he somehow thinks because it's his house that he has control of what someone does as far as helping someone out, lovingly.

So then he goes into me going to the bathroom at night, saying I wake him up. Then tells me in order to live here I have to pee in a bottle as not to disturb him. I told him if I'm paying the rent that I'm going to use the bathroom as needed. I also told him peeing in a bottle is unsanitary, and leaves room for error like getting pee on the floor. That's the problem, he thinks he can control someone despite them paying in a tyrannical and unreasonable way. He literally told me that "Rebellion will be crushed" in those exact words, shaking his fist..... Like, is this shit Star Wars?????????? Who's rebelling?

He also has a problem with the things I eat, multiple times he's tried to make me feel bad about what I eat or cook. All because he watched a documentary on food. At every turn I seem to be doing something wrong, I'm gone 12 hours a day yet I'm somehow causing an issue.

But he somehow thinks he's being any bit of reasonable and that other people would enforce these insane rules on PAYING tenants. I told him that every time I eat I don't want to hear his opinion on what I eat and making me uncomfortable. According to him, if you're in someone's house you can't tell them not to ridicule and force their opinion on you for things that doesn't effect them. And as i told him, no, people don't do shit like that. People don't power trip like that, or say thell put a deadbolt lock on the bathroom so you cant use the bathroom. People don't even go in their tenants rooms to see if it's dirty or not.

Anyways, I'm going to move out by the end of the month. Fuck this man, after all this is done I'm disowning him as my father, and as a person I will ever associate with, or be associated with. I made the grave mistake of thinking my father would even marginally help me. A lot of parents will help their children get on their feet FOR FREE, out of love. And even if they do have them pay, they don't put them through all this shit over virtually nothing.

I haven't even told you guys HALF the shit I've been through living with this asshole.
 
Sorry about your shitty dad. I had a similar situation with my step father and it ended up in a physical fight. You're making the right decision by leaving. I feel bad for your mom though.
 
I've lost two brothers and he will throws that in my mother's face, saying things like "That's why your kids are dead" and "Your kids are dead because of you". My brothers weren't his children by blood just to clarify. He has mentally and physically abused my mother before, each time apologizing. He's stopped the physical abuse but his mental and verbal abuse is far worse.

WTF? It's good you're getting out, but your mom needs to get out too. That stuff is unconscionable.
 
Sorry about your shitty dad. I had a similar situation with my step father and it ended up in a physical fight. You're making the right decision by leaving. I feel bad for your mom though.
That's ultimately what I feel will happen. My mother feels like she's trapped. I'll make a way for her.
 
I would let him know you'll start pissing in bottles when he's dead. You'll then leave the bottles on his gravestone.

Seriously your dad is out of his mind
 
yeah, if possible move bc just being around them too much your just going to build more unkind thoughts which is not healthy. things you posted are not normal and your not wrong to be upset.
 
Why do you care, just stay in library or starbuck until evening. It's not your house (anymore).

edit: unless you change your last name, there is no difference between "disowning" and not talking to your father.
 
I would let him know you'll start pissing in bottles when he's dead. You'll then leave the bottles on his gravestone.

Seriously your dad is out of his mind
He doesn't think so, he thinks he's completely justified in all his actions.
 
I've lost two brothers and he will throws that in my mother's face, saying things like "That's why your kids are dead" and "Your kids are dead because of you". My brothers weren't his children by blood just to clarify.

This is how far I had to read to realize we're talking about a grade-A piece of shit. I'm sorry you have to deal with this crap, OP.
 
Sounds like moving out is the right plan, and try and get your mom some help OP. Can't imagine any room mate being worse than what you described.
 
That sounds like terrible situation to be in, glad you're getting out of it. But dont leave your mom in there for long. :(
I'm not, going going to try to get her to either live with me, or one of her close friends if she wants to that way. Already told her I will pay rent for her if they want some.
 
That's ultimately what I feel will happen. My mother feels like she's trapped. I'll make a way for her.
Good. Get her out of there. I wasn't able to get my mom out because they had small children and she used it as an excuse not to leave. Luckily he died five years later after gastric bypass surgery so my mom was able to finally escape.
 
My verbally and emotionally abusive father also believes he's a "good man"

He can't accept that the words he uses are abusive and lead to my mom's extremely low self esteem and probably mine's too.

My mom definitely gets the worse of it.

I hope your mom can one day be free of your pos dad. Living with abusive pieces of shits like that is no way to live.
 
So then he goes into me going to the bathroom at night, saying I wake him up. Then tells me in order to live here I have to pee in a bottle as not to disturb him.

He's not only not a good person but a psychopath.
 
I feel your pain. My mum's a piece of Shit who I parted ways with 6 months back. Selfish as hell. Hope things work out well for you and your mother.
 
I've lost two brothers and he will throws that in my mother's face, saying things like "That's why your kids are dead" and "Your kids are dead because of you".

I can't imagine a more horrible and cruel thing to say to someone. Your father is terrible and your mother needs help to be rid of him.
 
Well no one really thinks that they're a bad person. Most people do plenty of mental gymnastics to justify their actions. You only think that you're a bad person when you have low self-esteem or the regret catches up to you. That's why racists usually don't identify as racist. That term can't be taken any other way besides badly, so they hide it under other terms to make it sound like they're doing something that's good for someone, when in reality they're just pieces of shit.

Manifest Destiny worked that way too
 
I didn't have a father but if I did and he was like that I probably would've ended up going to jail for slugging him... I still might if I ever actually meet him.
 
This advice is dependent on your financial situation, but talk to your mother about leaving him together.

Don't over-plan it though. Your mother probably won't be able to keep the plan a secret from him for long and when he finds out he'll flip his lid.

Pack up essentials and valuables, and just go one day.

Maybe seek legal advice?

Don't know man... it's a shit situation to be in. Not sure how you and your mother can get out of it, but you can't stay.
 
The moment I learned no matter how closely related I was to someone it didn't mean I had to have any contact with them my life has never been happier.

Some members of my family treated me like a doormat for years and they got complacent thinking I wouldn't do anything about it. I dropped them 4 years ago and I've never been happier.
 
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Your father sounds flat-out insane. It's never easy living with a family member that literally thinks the world revolves around them. It's always hard figuring out our parents are bad people.

Stay strong, OP.
 
Can you call adult protective services on your dad for the shit he's done to your mom? She needs to get away from him asap.
 
Pee in a bottle? I would have said fuck it and tried to find a airbnb if possible. Guy is mentally sick and if she has the means to do it, your mother needs to leave his ass asap.
 
Excuse the internet tough guy talk here, but how are you allowing this man to abuse your mother like that?
Most of that stuff was when I was a kid, currently I have thought about beating him within an inch of his life. But I know that's something that was fuck up what good I have going and I know that's ultimately what he'd like me to do. Fuck things up for myself.
 
My dad used to beat me for the slightest reasons, and wouldn't stop until he saw blood. He then would berate me for crying about it. He'd tell me he was saving me because I was a bad child and that he was doing his duty as a good parent. He would tell me to be thankful that we didn't live in biblical times, or he could stone me to death for "sins" as small speaking out of turn. He thought he was a good man doing the will of God.

You can never fix his delusions, and they will never change. Your idea to disown him once you leave is a good one. But don't forget your mother. She's suffering too, and you may be her only reason for hanging on.
 
All assholes think that they're great people.

The only people who don't see themselves as "good" are those with depression or major self-esteem issues.
 
I'm drawing a lot of similarities between your dad and mine. I have to say, your dad is a lot worse and your situation is worse.

But these things things for sure:

4. He's a conspiracy theorists. [Regarding liberals/dems]
5. He thinks his age and things only he's experienced makes it where anyone younger than him trying to tell him about life is inferior and a fool.

5) Is infuriating. He’s always moving the goalpost when we argue (usually about 4), no matter how old I am (I'm 32)
 
Your dad seems like an asshole, I don't understand how your mother and you are willing to keep up with his shit.
 
4. He's a conspiracy theorists.

I've never met a conspiracy theorist who wasn't a complete and utter prick.
Its really dumb people who found a way to make themselves feel like they are smarter than everyone else.

You should get out of that house and take your mother with you.
 
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