Professor Beef
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My Little Pony FiM Community |OT2| I just don't know what went wrong!
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Then you have more faith in a soulless corporation than I do.
Maybe you are right and maybe we are just taking the issue too seriously.
However, the edited episode wasn't free for someone... and money is always "serious business" (Heh, Sorry I had too)
On the other hand, bronies are an important part of the apparent huge success of the show. Keeping the fans happy seems to be a good business, and Hasbro knows it. With some luck this incident will have no repercussions.
Time will tell.
You heard it right here folks, this is comparable to good versus evil. And no I don't think this will negatively affect a season 3. After all we have the current show runner's word on how lenient Hasbro have been in production and they okayed the episode in the first place. The team knows what they're doing and I'm glad nobody was fired.
Everything's fine.
/rainbowglasses
And you don't think this incident (which cost them money) could cause them to rethink that position?
I think it's too late to call a moratorium on Derpygate. Like someone already mentioned in the old thread, this is the the MLP fandom's very own "Greedo shot first".
Of course we could always go back to debating whether Rainbow Dash cheated.
Don't know anything about Stephen Fry's recent behaviour, so I can't comment on that.
I hope you're right, but I'm a pessimist, so...
Also, hurry back to IRC already, you're missing the party.
Honestly... off the top of my head I can't think of a single thing in any other episode that would be a candidate for editing in the way Derpy was. One thing out of 44 episodes was considered questionable enough to change, and even that one thing just barely caused enough of a stir to be looked at. I don't think that's enough of a precedent to convince everyone at Hasbro that there's a problem that needs special attention paid to it. I don't think the Derpy incident is enough to get Hasbro to meddle in the making of the Hub's most popular show. Why would they mess with a formula for success unless it's for a really serious reason?
I'm missing a party!?
btw: brian and blamite, have you ever joined our irc? Everyone is super nice, except Cheezmo. He's a jerk and his name gets autocorrected to Cheezmoohohoh on my phone
Yup, and what a party it is! Cheez is already passed out on the floor.
You'll have to talk to Buf to get in though.
Your logic sound. Can't say this is the first time I've overreacted to something like this. I reacted similarly to Faust's departure.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
Quick draw a penis on his head and shove a carrot up his ass before he wakes up.
Professor Beef
Banned
You were overreacting? Why I couldn't even tell...
Man, don't even lie, you'd give it to Trixie.
either way he'll have something hard and long.
Myke Greywolf
Ambassador of Goodwill
Truth be told, everyone involved can be considered guilty of overreacting. I guess it can be said that it's something that is both in the genes of rabid fans and PC-obsessed corporations.
Dr. Whooves would have been involved. Maybe he changed the past so that Derpy became more derpy, but changed it back.
Probably a bit of both. Certainly the community will be less active and vocal, but theres plenty of creative minds out there who will start picking up the slack. When the series itself stops, we'll likely see an increase in Fan animations and comics to fill the pony void, and projects like fighting is magic and the CMC game will keep the torch alive for a bit.
The real test will be when the next gen of ponies comes out. Hasbro won't let the series itself die. There will be a 5 gen of ponies at some time, and depending on its quality, the community would embraces it or we all accept that its over.
Slamtastic
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Captain Fish
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I honestly don't believe there is any reason to worry about this happening. I think a lot of the reason this specific thing was so scrutinized is because it's such a big thing for the fans.
We've gotten the alcohol implying cider episode and chemotherapy pony, things I don't think would've made it in if the creators didn't have pretty free reign to do what they want.
Slamtastic
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I've dwelled on this myself, actually. My musings had led me to believe that the core of the fan base will exponentially diminish following the conclusion of the series. EqD will continue to post fan arts and updates on the cast/crew of MLP as they move onto other projects, but will slide away. The rest of the "fanbase" will follow, as DeviantART submissions for Pony Art slow to a crawl.
However, I do think that pockets of MLP fan communities will thrive. Dedicated groups that will continue to discuss the show, continue to do fan art, and continue to try and introduce others to the show for years to come. Tight-knit communities can survive long after their original "purpose" has become moot (indeed, oftentimes its a requirement, as the original topic for discussion might grow bland or saturated before it is concluded).
PonyGAF itself will most likely linger on in some form or another a year or so after the show wraps up. For how long and in what capacity I cannot say.
But in the meantime, thank goodness for top-notch art like this. This community really rocks.
I believe the fanbase'll last for at least, oh, half a year at roughly the same strength after the show ends, aside from the people who truly do just watch the show. After that decline is inevitable, though I agree with ahoy in thinking that PonyGAF will be able to survive for a time longer, at least in the IRC.
The sheer amount of episodes they've been pumping out in these first two seasons makes me skeptical of that point. That, and the fact that the Hub still seems to be pushing for a "Smash n' Grab" merchandising franchise in the continued tradition of Hasbro, still perhaps unaware of how strong the legs of this franchise they've stumbled upon might be.
IRC will become kirbychat at last.
how did he screw up rainbow dash so much?
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It will be glorious!
Amibguous Cad
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Where in the world are you getting this from? In what way does the rationale for dropping Derpy have anything to do with the other background characters? How does the stated rationale for removing Derpy's name from the show, that it reinforces a narrative that contibutes to the marginalization of the mentally disabled in our society, at all implicate fluttershy's neck snap or the funeral in Heart's and Hooves Day?
There is a tendency of some to lump those who censor because they personally dislike what is being shown with those who strive to hold media companies to their proper social responsibility concerning society's most vulnerable classes. It's a convenient justification for those who would like their media consumption habits to be hidden behind a veil of ignorance, completely immune from examination, critique, or criticism, but it's simply not true. There is no similarity between someone who argues from pique or animus against a certain kind of content, and those who strive to ensure that the media they consume do not, so far as possible, does not perpetuate injustice.
I think the uproar should tell you that they are not overly concerned with being inoffensive- the original posting said, all too well, that "Fans were going to be offended no matter what." They had waded into controversy whether they wanted to or not, and any action would leave some people being offended. What they did did not minimize offense, since if that was all they were concerned about they would have gone with the majority opinion. They instead did the right thing, bringing greater controversy upon themselves in order to not be guilty of perpetuating negatve stereotypes against the mentally disabled.
Expanding our circle of concern to more of society's marginalized will no more kill humor than when we did the same thing for women and racial minorities last century. Third-rate comics may lament that their routines filled with nothing but "cunt" and "nigger" are no longer welcome(and indeed they are not- the modern world has no place for them) - but the MLP team, and indeed anyone of talent, are made of sterner stuff.
Slamtastic
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The worst part of the drama being that I was over it after the first day, but someone brought it up again.
Here's some art to take up space and hurry us to a new, less argument filled page.
Here's some art to take up space and hurry us to a new, less argument filled page.
a little technique i picked up from Forester
Shadow Hog
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Tofu hotdogs or similar, I assume.
Rickenslacker
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Captain Fish
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BIONIC FAAAAARM!
Theonik
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Would work much better based on UPS if recent GAF horror stories are to be believed.
Why does it look like Twilight is wearing drapers? >.>
Shadow Hog
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Mega Man characters always looked like they were wearing underwear over their pants.
yeah but twilight make it look more horrible and hilarious xD
Dr.strange twilight would have been a perfect fit
Theonik
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Yeah but it looks pretty obvious in that pic. Probably because of the quadrupedal pose.
Edit: Pretty much what the person above me said.
Nobodyspatzy
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I shall only say...The drama WILL continue, no matter what each side says. I have the unedited DVD I really don't care what they may or may not do for the future showing of said episode.
Point is, while I support those who want the original scene uncensored, it already has been done and changed or 'censored' and you have to deal with it, but complaining is ok too! and whether she is Derpy, Ditzy, or the character we find hiding in weird places, I don't mind anymore.
Lol, it's like when I call Lyra 'Lyra', instead of 'Heartstrings'...I know the toys say one thing, but I still say the other...=p
(I am admittedly difficult to reason with...)
Point is, while I support those who want the original scene uncensored, it already has been done and changed or 'censored' and you have to deal with it, but complaining is ok too! and whether she is Derpy, Ditzy, or the character we find hiding in weird places, I don't mind anymore.
Lol, it's like when I call Lyra 'Lyra', instead of 'Heartstrings'...I know the toys say one thing, but I still say the other...=p
(I am admittedly difficult to reason with...)
Rubbish King
The gift that keeps on giving
Sup PonyGAF, just watched the first two episodes of MLP to see what the fuss is about, i couldn't believe how much i got into it.. What makes this so fun to watch?!
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