Support NeoGAF

[Hale-XF11]

I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing I'd done something like that to someone that's done me or anyone else zero harm.

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

 

[Recon]

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

Agreed. This thread makes me sad.. :/

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

Yes, calling the police about illegal activities, they truly are the scum of the earth. I weep for future generations.

 

[luxstellarum]

Talk to him first. Calling the police is the douche thing to do, if he's not intimidating then just go up to him and express your issue. What if you call & he comes back for you? You can bet he wont be to happy lol

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I'd only call if something happens.

 

[Switters]

Back in 1931 my neighbor ran a "speak easy" out of his home. Lots of comings and goings, to and fros. Some of the well to do even had those automobiles and sent my Mabel into what we lovingly referred to as the devil's mambo when she heard their unholy engines roar with demon smoke. Anyway, I called the coppers and the g-men busted that racket up but good.

Do the right thing Original Poster. Do not let evil flourish and take root in your garden lest you reap your own stint in Alcatraz.

 

[Hilti92]

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

GAF is letting me down lately. Especially the guy who actually called the cops and got his neighbour arrested.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Agreed. This thread makes me sad.. :/

Try not to feel too sad. We're winning, after all. Very slowly, but we're getting there.

 

[Recon]

Yes, calling the police about illegal activities, they truly are the scum of the earth. I weep for future generations.

Blindly following what the government tells you to do. Plus being an ass about it. I truly weep for future generations myself.

 

[Zoolader]

This is almost as ridiculous as this made up situation....

Hold up I see some elderly men playing dominoes and watching football on tv outside across the street on their own porch. I don't have any evidence but I have a hunch they run an organized racketeering ring over there and trade weapons. Just look at all those old men congregating, they shouldn't have that many friends! When I leave my windows open I can smell their pungent musky odor creeping from across the street! That is illegal and I will not tolerate it on my watch, not in my neighborhood. I'm going to call the police station before they start pouring gasoline on each other and shoot bullets into my house. Hopefully they all go to jail where they can live out the rest of their meaningless lives.

 

[kurbaan]

I can tell who has never gone out to the real world based on this thread

And I can tell who is still an immature student.

 

[Masaki_]

This is almost as ridiculous as this made up situation....

Hold up I see some elderly men playing dominoes and watching football on tv outside across the street on their own porch. I don't have any evidence but I have a hunch they run an organized racketeering ring over there. Just look at all those old men congregating, they shouldn't have that many friends! When I leave my windows open I can smell their pungent musky odor creeping from across the street! That is illegal and I will not tolerate it on my watch, not in my neighborhood. I'm going to call the police station before they start pouring gasoline on each other and shoot bullets into my house. Hopefully they all go to jail where they can live out the rest of their meaningless lives.

neogaf analogies

 

[Linsies]

I'm so on the fence with this subject. We live in a nice neighborhood and when taking our children for walks would always walk past a house with guys playing games in the garage. There were like 6 of them and the house smelled of pot. People were always coming and going but the guys were young so I figured they were just really popular. We don't have a problem with people using weed so we just ignored it. Anyway, one day my husband came home and told me that there were several police there and a SWAT team. I was shocked to learn what they had in their home:

Authorities credited tips from community members for leading them to the alleged operation where four handguns were discovered. Police served a search warrant on the home where they found marijuana and methamphetamine supplies, digital scales used to measure the narcotics, packaging materials, and the guns.

Anyway, my brother is a grower and I fully support that. When you get into meth and guns, I get a little afraid.

 

[Zoe]

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

Guess the people who have actually lived next to weed dealers and had problems because of it were simply imagining the whole thing.

 

[kurbaan]

Guess the people who have actually lived next to weed dealers and had problems because of it were simply imagining the whole thing.

Dont you know? Drug dealers only give out medicinal marijuana and are nice upstanding citizens. I wouldn't think twice having them baby sit my kids.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Guess the people who have actually lived next to weed dealers and had problems because of it were simply imagining the whole thing.

OP said that his neighbor isn't disturbing the peace. Seems like the rational thing to do would be to live and let live in a society where everyone is at peace and leaves one another to their own business. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Recon]

Dont you know? Drug dealers only give out medicinal marijuana and are nice upstanding citizens. I wouldn't think twice having them baby sit my kids.

Calm down. It's just grass bro.

 

[RumblingRosco]

Here's my thinking (I've already posted once a while back, but let me further explain). If the neighbor is truly dealing drugs, then it's a reasonable thing to suspect that he would try and protect himself from being caught. It's human nature to protect yourself, even if you're doing something you know is illegal. With that in mind, it suggests to me that tipping him off that you (OP) are upset only increases your risk of an altercation. That's not to say the neighbor is going to murder you in your sleep, but again, we're talking about someone that is supposedly committing a felony.

I'm just saying, if I were committing a felony that could land me in prison for years, even though I think the law is stupid, I wouldn't take it lying down if someone starts putting their nose in my business. I'd either relocate, hide my shit, or make sure the person that is snooping doesn't report me.

So, OP, either live with it and don't talk to him or do not talk to him and simply call the police. If you talk to him and then call the police, well, he'll know it's you. If you talk to him and then don't call the police but someone else does, well, he'll still assume it was you. Whether that means anything bad would happen to you I cannot say, but if he truly is growing and dealing, then we already know he's someone that isn't afraid to commit a (admittedly stupid) felony.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Blindly following what the government tells you to do. Plus being an ass about it. I truly weep for future generations myself.

:lol Being an ass about it? You guys were so kind saying how awful everyone in this thread is just a second ago... And is it always blindly following when you call the cops or just when you see fit?

Here's my thinking (I've already posted once a while back, but let me further explain). If the neighbor is truly dealing drugs, then it's a reasonable thing to suspect that he would try and protect himself from being caught. It's human nature to protect yourself, even if you're doing something you know is illegal. With that in mind, it suggests to me that tipping him off that you (OP) are upset only increases your risk of an altercation. That's not to say the neighbor is going to murder you in your sleep, but again, we're talking about someone that is supposedly committing a felony.

I'm just saying, if I were committing a felony that could land me in prison for years, even though I think the law is stupid, I wouldn't take it lying down if someone starts putting their nose in my business. I'd either relocate, hide my shit, or make sure the person that is snooping doesn't report me.

So, OP, either live with it and don't talk to him or do not talk to him and simply call the police. If you talk to him and then call the police, well, he'll know it's you. If you talk to him and then don't call the police but someone else does, well, he'll still assume it was you. Whether that means anything bad would happen to you I cannot say, but if he truly is growing and dealing, then we already know he's someone that isn't afraid to commit a (admittedly stupid) felony.

Dude, you've clearly never left your house. It's just weed dude.

 

[To Far Away Times]

If he's just smoking pot then then just close the window and laugh it off. But if he's dealing that's a different story.

Dealing makes your neighborhood less safe, brings sketchy people into the neighborhood, ect. It can impact the quality of your life. I'd probably do something if I knew someone was dealing.

 

[Legendary_Red]

You know what would be interesting? Seeing how many people think having a drug dealer living next door is cool, and then finding out how many of those people own their own home and have children. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people who think it's cool don't have either of those.

.

If it was just single old me then I might actually consider talking to the guy first.

If it involves me and my family then I'm calling the fucking cops immediately, you take no chances chances when it involves loved ones. People in this thread talk as if all stranger drug dealers and some of their sketch customers are cool upstanding citizens who are doing the community a favor by dealing weed.

 

[Mr.Swag]

.

If it was just single old me then I might actually consider talking to the guy first.

If it involves me and my family then I'm calling the fucking cops immediately, you take no chances chances when it involves loved ones. People in this thread talk as if all stranger drug dealers and some of their sketch customers are cool upstanding citizens who are doing the community a favor by dealing weed.

But why so paranoid? Are you the type to feel like you are always constantly in mortal danger?
Yes bad shit can happen in life, but not everything's constantly out to get you.
People like you always living cautiously and in fear, cause more danger to the world than the "danger" you're running from.

 

[RumblingRosco]

Dude, you've clearly never left your house. It's just weed dude.

This is an excellent response and it is difficult for me to refute it.

Sent from my underground bunker

 

[DyTonic]

Never snitch and respect his efforts of getting paid.

 

[scotcheggz]

Is this like some sort of cultural divide or something, because round this way dealers big and small are not these hardcore, throat slitting, drug den owning, child killers. They're all just regular people that make good money doing an irregular job.

Or is it just a matter of too much tv putting wild fantasies into people's minds?

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I dont think talking to him would be a good idea.

 

[aFIGurANT]

"Just" weed is great if it's all that's going on...but how the hell is the OP supposed to know what's really going on in his neighbor's house. This is why I say fuck acting too quickly - I'd try to judge the situation further before acting, personally.

 

[Greyvvolf]

I would love a neighbor like that. Hate driving 20 miles for my medicine.

Your first name is fitting.

Square Triangle

 

[BobDylan]

OP states he's in Michigan, where medical marijuana is legal, with some caveats. You sure your neighbor isn't a designated "caregiver" by Michigan law? That means he can legally cultivate and distribute marijuana to patients from his own home. Patients would have a card assigned by their physician that is valid for up to 2 years allowing them to purchase medicinal marijuana.

Just talk to the guy, there's no harm in that.

The hard-and-fast "IT'S ILLEGAL, RAT HIM OUT" folks really should look Into their local laws before spewing out uninformed 80's-era propaganda. What if this guy was in Seattle or Denver or another city/state that has decriminalized and/or legalized marijuana use?

THIS. I have a friend who lives in Michigan and is a legal caregiver. it's very possible that could be the case. just go talk to the dude. pretty simple

 

[Zoe]

Is this like some sort of cultural divide or something, because round this way dealers big and small are not these hardcore, throat slitting, drug den owning, child killers. They're all just regular people that make good money doing an irregular job.

Or is it just a matter of too much tv putting wild fantasies into people's minds?

The dealer himself is one thing. What about all the random strangers he's bringing into the neighborhood?

 

[Hale-XF11]

The dealer himself is one thing. What about all the random strangers he's bringing into the neighborhood?

How do you know they're not his friends?

 

[RumblingRosco]

If the neighbor is legally selling the stuff, then no harm will come to him if the police come to his door. The only thing that will be lost is the time it takes for a police officer or two to pop on over and see that he has the paperwork in order to legally sell from his home. It's not like this scenario would harm the neighbor at all. Hell, the police almost assuredly have a list of legal dealers in the area, so they probably wouldn't even bother going over if they saw his address/name on their list. I'm assuming they have a list for these things, seems like something the government would do.

 

[Zoe]

How do you know they're not his friends?

They're not the OP's friends.

 

[Hale-XF11]

They're not the OP's friends.

Why would they be? The neighbor invited them over, not OP. Don't be silly.

 

[Zoe]

Why would they be? The neighbor invited them over, not OP. Don't be silly.

Dealing to them is not necessarily an endorsement of their character nor how they would regard the rest of the neighborhood.

 

[Conor_Fool]

I can't believe a GAFfer called the police on that guy who had a wife and kids without even contacting him. For those worried of getting mixed up with the wrong people, you can contact them anonymously by simply sticking an anonymous letter in their mailbox. But to immediately send this man to jail for making a little extra money to support his wife and kids? Sure, the guy fucked up. But you not only potentially shattered a relationship between a man and women, you potentially ruined a child's chance to spend time with their father when they need it most.

What a scumbag thing to do

 

[Legendary_Red]

But why so paranoid? Are you the type to feel like you are always constantly in mortal danger?
Yes bad shit can happen in life, but not everything's constantly out to get you.
People like you always living cautiously and in fear, cause more danger to the world than the "danger" you're running from.

Yup, reporting the next door drug dealer is totally making the world a more "dangerous" place.

Danger is inescapable and inherent in any situation, but that does not mean one should throw caution out the window is silly when a simple phone call to the authorities can make your family a lot safer. And yes living next to a drug dealer who specifically deals, not lives, in the house next door is an increased risk,

 

[Vyer]

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

Nothing wrong with wanting your family to not live next to dealers or not wanting to have one move into your neighborhood.

Edit:

Yes, it happened around midnight on a weekday night. About a month later his mom kicked him out, fixed up the house and has been renting it out ever since.

Here you can see the gasoline trail:

The inside must have been quite charred:

Wow, I missed this. Damn.

 

[chogidogs]

Surprising amount of narcs in this thread.

 

[scotcheggz]

The dealer himself is one thing. What about all the random strangers he's bringing into the neighborhood?

Well, since drug dealing is illegal, it's generally a pretty tight operation. People come and go quietly, you shut the fuck up and you don't bring attention to yourself nor the dealer. If you do make a ruckus, you risk the dealer telling you to never come back.

I can't really see how it's any worse than living near any house with a few young people or something. I don't know, I live in the centre of a city, so maybe my perspective is skewed, but I'd rather have a dealer as a neighbour than just about anything else. You can bet they're going to be quiet and discreet. It's fairly safe to say they're going to want to do anything they can to not cause any problems, since a small problem for them has a real risk of turning into a huge, livelihood wrecking problem.

I dunno, clearly I'm on the side of the argument that would say you don't get involved unless they're a threat to you. Unless it's some crack den you see on the tv then I doubt its a threat. I've had some undesirable neighbours in my time and they weren't drug dealers, just fucking morons.

I just wonder how many people assume an image of a dealer based on its legality and again, the tv.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

THIS. I have a friend who lives in Michigan and is a legal caregiver. it's very possible that could be the case. just go talk to the dude. pretty simple

What do you mean THIS? If he's doing it legally then why do you guys care if he calls the cops? I've never seen people tell someone not to call the cops because he's probably within his rights and it's completely legal, if it's completely legal then nothing will happen after he calls the cops. The paranoia from people is just insane, especially when they're saying it's completely legal probably so just leave him be!

I can't believe a GAFfer called the police on that guy who had a wife and kids without even contacting him. For those worried of getting mixed up with the wrong people, you can contact them anonymously by simply sticking an anonymous letter in their mailbox. But to immediately send this man to jail for making a little extra money to support his wife and kids? Sure, the guy fucked up. But you not only potentially shattered a relationship between a man and women, you potentially ruined a child's chance to spend time with their father when they need it most.

What a scumbag thing to do

:lol Yeah, I'm sure without him selling drugs his baby would be crying and up all night because it has nothing to eat. There's no other way to make money. I love how people project this pathetic image of the neighbor to try and guilt people into a position. I'm sure the guy is working 3 jobs, not even sleeping at night all just to put a roof over his family's head and food in their belly. They'd be dead or worse yet living on the streets if it wasn't for him dealing. Don't ruin another life OP, this world is hard enough as it is. :'(

 

[Fury Sense]

What level of dealer is he? Like Skinny Pete, Emilio, Krazy 8, or Tuco?

 

[Zoe]

They're not being discreet if OP noticed.

 

[Mr.Swag]

What level of dealer is he? Like Skinny Pete, Emilio, Krazy 8, or Tuco?

That's funny, I feel like most of the narcs in this thread base their knowledge of drug dealers an drugs off of television shows.

Once you go out into the real world, you find out how much of a non harm marijuana is.



Also, the shady people that come and go, come and go. They leave. Think of it as a drive thru. They're trying to get out of there, they're not trying to settle down an do criminal shit, they just leaving.
They don't give a fuck about OP''s house.
If anything he's more safe living next to the dealer, because it means that the crazy marijuana users are always in hurry to leave his hood.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

What if he just smokes weed and sell heroin, cocaine and meth?

 

[Legendary_Red]

It's become abundantly clear, especially in this thread, that it's true what they say about human behavior. When some people have little to no understanding about something, one of their first reactions is to fear it and have hostility towards it, rather than act in what some of us consider to be a more civil manner. I'm fascinated by it as much as I am horrified by it.

So you would be totally fine with some dude running a drug house right next door to your family?

There is no reason you or anyone has to put up with the risk factors and all the other associated shit by nature of living next door to someone like that.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Forget he's doing it. It's not your business and you don't need to be involved unless somehow it erupts iin a violent deal or something. And let's face it, small time weed-dealing is pretty harmless.

Leave him be, OP.

There might not be a violent deal if he goes ahead and anonymously tip the po-po. On the other hand, if he talks to his neighbor then he might end up in a "violent dea".

What's the worst case scenario for the OP if he were to call the cops (without first warning the neighbor)?

Nothing.

If he doesn't though, he might end up dead at the hands of the dealer, some criminal in charge of the dealer, or some addled drug junkie.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

That's funny, I feel like most of the narcs in this thread base their knowledge of drug dealers an drugs off of television shows.

Once you go out into the real world, you find out how much of a non harm marijuana is.



Also, the shady people that come and go, come and go. They leave. Think of it as a drive thru. They're trying to get out of there, they're not trying to settle down an do criminal shit, they just leaving.
They don't give a fuck about OP''s house.
If anything he's more safe living next to the dealer, because it means that the crazy marijuana users are always in hurry to leave his hood.

Yeah harmless. Google "marijuana murder" and nearly every result is a news article about a violent crime dealing with a marijuana deal, dealer or grow.

Even in places where medicinal marijuana growing is legal, there is a lot of robberies and home invasions that take place when people know there is a house that grows and sells. Having weed and money makes you a target.

 

[Mr.Swag]

Does it say anything about the neighbors being inexplicably murdered?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Does it say anything about the neighbors being inexplicably murdered?

No but do you want to live next to a house that is potentially a target for violence? Is that not something for a person who has family or is a home owner to be concerned about?