My research into Metroid Prime 2 : Echoes' development and unused content.

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Volume 1 : Metroid Prime.

Volume 2 : Metroid Prime 1.5 and the Metroid 2 Remake.

Volume 3 : Metroid Prime 2 Echoes.

Volume 4 : Metroid Prime 3 Corruption.

Volume 5 : Metroid Prime Hunters and “Toon Metroid".

Following the success of the above two threads, this third submission will cover the changes in development, possible excised content and miscellaneous discoveries concerning Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

As with the previous threads, a lot of what you are about to read are my theories and potential conclusions as supported by the presented media.


Metroid Prime 2: Echoes




The 1.5 Influences

When the Metroid 1.5 Document was first discovered, quite a few Gaffers noticed some conceptual similarities with Metroid Prime 2’s final story. A few samples from the document:

Metroid 1.5 Document said:
The Alien inhabitants of the ship are also in a state of suspended animation
This idea of a hostile race in suspended animation was reinterpreted as the benevolent sleeping Luminoth.

Metroid 1.5 Document said:
because as the ship travels through the parallel dimension
Metroid 1.5 Document said:
Due to being in a parallel dimension, there are areas within the ship where floors may become ceiling due to gravity being reversed, Time may run backwards, (illustrated by creatures and machines moving in reverse, water moving up into a faucet) and other sorts of environmental weirdness, that
Metroid 1.5 Document said:
As the ship reaches its target, it will unfold into this dimension
Rather than the ship travelling through a hyperspace parallel dimension, the coexisting worlds of Light and Dark Aether were introduced.

Metroid 1.5 Document said:
the robotic and automated entities [...] these will be the primary enemies that Samus must deal with
Metroid 1.5 Document said:
Industrial factory section, where all weapons of war are made, lots of conveyor belts and mechanical machinery
Metroid 1.5 Document said:
Robot factory section, where Samus would have to sabotage the machinery that is responsible for the creation of all robotic entitles
This armada of automata would eventually be introduced as the robotic soldiers within the fallen Sanctuary Fortress.

Metroid 1.5 Document said:
Shock Beast:
The Shock Beast design would be used as Metroid Prime 2’s incarnation of the Space Pirate troopers:





Metroid 1.5 Document said:
All this can boil down to perhaps having an end boss become an EVIL SAMUS. Much like fighting yourself in the old Sega Genesis Game, Budokan, and of course, Metroid Fusion…
This small consideration for a doppelganger of Samus, would eventually become the main story arc for the entire Metroid Prime trilogy.


Metroid Prime’s horrifying agenda?





(Source: First image is part of the Metroid Prime 2: Concept Art released to the public, the second image is from Andrew “Android” Jones portfolio with no explicit description provided).

These two concept pieces may be extremely early takes on the character of Dark Samus, and suggest that Retro may have been originally planning a far darker, grotesque direction for the character. This incarnation of Samus is a fleshy, grey, humanoid creature with a visor of glowing red energy. It seems that in first image shown, the Metroid Prime creature recreated itself into a basic bipedal shape that is somewhat featureless but still extremely alien.

The second design retains the same grey texture, colouring and visor, but possesses a number of horrifying changes. This Samus has undergone a massive increase in size and musculature. From her previously-featureless body, a hellish organic armour made of flesh absorbed or copied from other creatures has manifested. A face and jaw similar to Ridley’s now protrudes from her shoulder, her right claw seems to have been taken from a Space Pirate appendage, her left knee bears what appears to be a Luminoth face, and her entire left arm has become a fearsome organic lance.

Consider the ending of the first game: the Metroid Prime entity absorbed the armour (and residual DNA) from Samus, creating itself a new humanoid physical form. Perhaps Retro Studios at one point intended for Dark Samus to manifest this absorption ability throughout the trilogy, starting life as a featureless humanoid clone and eventually absorbing the corpses of her varied victims to become a horrific abomination of nature.

This theory ties in with another (presumed abandoned) detail from the Metroid 1.5 Design Document.

Metroid 1.5 Document said:
The Main reason Samus and possibly other Bounty Hunters are being pulled into this ship is to assimilate their best and most deadly abilities into the personality construct of not only the ships AI, but also into the actual Alien Inhabitants in order to further their quest for perfection. As the ship reaches its target, it will unfold into this dimension and begin its attack. This has what the ship and Alien race who created it has have been doing for past thousand or so years, going from planet to planet, assimilating the most violent parts of a culture and asserting it into its own being.
When Metroid Prime was defeated, it regenerated itself into a human shape. The original genetically programmed role of all Metroid creatures (to absorb X-Parasites) could have been distorted, causing the creature to desire the absorption of all flesh.

If this theory holds any merit, then perhaps Retro originally intended Phazon to be entirely incidental to Dark Samus’ motives.


Further unused Dark Samus designs: There were a number of very different portrayals of Dark Samus until the glowing-blue doppelganger was settled on.

Black/Dark Grey Samus





(Source: Alejandro Roura, website now defunct)

This incarnation of Dark Samus has an unreal quality to it, with the artwork showing her to be made up of "bubbles" of matter. The animation shows her sneaking around, an action that the highly volatile Dark Samus never performs during the final release. Could these designs have represented an early, weak and unstable incarnation of the creature, that must stealthily find Phazon to maintain a corporeal form and increase its power?


Armoured Samus



This incarnation of Dark Samus is a grey, heavily armoured juggernaut. It seems to have a shape somewhat reminiscent of some of the Space Pirates (particularly in the upper torso). Possibly the intention with this design was not to make it too apparent who or what the creature was. Perhaps with each subsequent encounter, Samus would destroy more and more of the organic armour, revealing the transformed remnant of Metroid Prime beneath?


Organic Samus



This incarnation seems far more organic than the other designs, with stretched flesh clearly visible. The shoulders actually appear to have a Metroid-style membrane, and the design is similar in shape (though much darker) to the abandoned Humetroid design from Metroid 1.5:



The organic qualities of this design seem to influence Dark Samus’ final form in the game’s final release.


Opening Storyboards

These are not excised content, but nonetheless provide a fascinating look at Retro Studios development of the opening story sequences of Metroid Prime 2. These appear to be the internal Retro Studios storyboards for the opening of the game, and I was surprised to discover them released for public consumption































(All credit to Metroid Database for obtaining these documents. There is similar content to be explored on their website.)


The inaccessible, unscannable Airthorns



There is a particular creature on Dark Aether called an “Airthorn”. This creature is unique in that it only appears in a single location, while Samus is in Morph Ball mode. Consequently it can never be scanned in normal play.

Through glitching, or examining the data on the game disc, the following Logbook Entry can be gathered:

"Mechanism: Airthorns. Rogue airborne mechanoids. Targets are small and travel in packs for safety. Avoid contact." "The Luminoth made the Airthorn to patrol local airspace. The small, speedy machines were a boon to the war effort until their programming failed. Now rogue, they serve the Ing as fiercely as they served their creators."
Obsolete Scan Entries

The retail Metroid Prime 2 disc has many old scan entries buried in its code. Some of these refer to excised items, enemies and environments:

Alpha Sandworm Alpha Splinter Amorbis Amorbis 1 Amorbis 2 Aquatic Atomic Baby Blogg Baby Metroid Bacteria Swarm Beta Atomic Blogg Bomb Guardian Boost Guardian Brizgee Chykka Chykka 1 Chykka 2 Chykka 3 Chykka 4 Commando Pirate Contraption Creatures Crystallite Dark Alpha Splinter Dark Aquatic Dark Beta Atomic Dark Blogg Dark Commando Dark Flyer Dark Flyers Dark Flying Pirate Dark Grenchler Dark Ingsmasher Dark Mechanoids Dark Metaree Dark Metroid Dark Missile Trooper Dark Predators Dark Preed Dark Puddlespore Dark Samus Dark Samus 1 Dark Samus 2 Dark Samus 3 Dark Samus 4 Dark Sentients Dark Shredder Dark Space Pirate Dark Splinter Dark Splinter Dark Splitter Dark Splitter Head Dark Sporb Dark Triclops Dark Trooper Dark War Wasp Dark World Darklings Death Eyes Digital Flyer Swarm Digital Guardian Digital Guardian 1 Digital Guardian 2 Digital Guardian 3 Digital Guardian 4 Digital Guardian 5 Digital Scrubber Digital WallWalker Elite Pirate Emperor Ing Emperor Ing 1 Emperor Ing 1A Emperor Ing 2 Emperor Ing 3 Emperor Ing 4 Flying Flying Pirate GF Turret Glowbug Grapple Guardian Green Kralee Grenadier Pirate Grenchler Ground Guardians Heavy Pirate Turret Ing Ing Swarm Jump Guardian Kenobite Kralee Krocuss Large Aquatic Large Flyers Large Mech Large Sub Light World Lumite Manned Turret Mechanoids Mechlops Medium Ing Mega Blogg Metaree Metaree Swarm Metroid Metroids Minirees Minor Ing Octopede Offworld Pillbug Pirate Turret Pirates Plant Swarm Power Bomb Guardian Predators Puddlespore Puffer Rezbit Sandbats Sandworm Sentient Shredder Shrieker Small Aquatic Small Flyers Small Mech Small Sub Space Pirate Spider Guardian Splinter Splitter Body Splitter Head Sporb Stationary Mech Stone Toad SubGuardians Surface Swimmer Swarm Triangle Swarm Triclops Tunnellers Tunnels War Wasp Warrior Ing Wisp Tentacle Worker Splinter Zoomer Aether Aether Studies Annhilator Beam Annhilator Bomb Armor Beacon Crystals Beam Combo Beam Expansion Beam Weapons Biology Bladepods Bloatsac Blue Eyes Blueroot Bomb Systems Bombslot Boost Ball Charge Beam Charge Combos Cliff Key 1 Cliff Key 2 Cliff Key 3 Cliff Keys Cocoons Combat Visor Crystals Dark Aether Dark Beam Dark Bomb Dark Lift Crystal Dark Portal Dark Suit Dark Temple Key Dark Visor Dark Webbing Dark World Darkburst ETM Echo Visor Energized Beacon Energized Crystal Energy Tank Engineering GF Bridge GF Gate 6 GF Gate 7 GF Lock GF Shield GF Ship Generator Grapple Beam Grapple Point Gravity Boost Imploder Inactive Beacon Ing Ball Ing Breather Ing Breather Ambient Lift Crystals Light Beacon Light Beam Light Bomb Light Crystal Light Crystals Light Lift Crystal Light Portal Light Suit Light World Lightblast MB Cannon Metroid Hive Miscellaneous Missile Expansion Missile Launcher Missile Systems Morph Ball Morph Ball Bomb Morph Ball Systems Morph Balls Movement Systems Nullified Beacon Nullified Crystal Phazon Piggy Plant Pirate Skiff Plant Lift Crystal Plantforms Power Beam Power Bomb Power Bomb Expansion Red Eyes Research Samus Ship Sand Crate Sand Grass Sand Key 1 Sand Key 2 Sand Key 3 Sand Keys Scan Visor Screw Attack Security Seeker Missile Launcher Shatterglobe Space Jump Boots Spider Ball Spiderball Track Spinner Splinter Cocoon Storage Plants Suit Expansions Super Missile Supercharged Beacon Supercharged Crystal Swamp Crate Swamp Key 1 Swamp Key 2 Swamp Key 3 Swamp Keys Systems Technology Temple Key 1 Temple Key 2 Temple Key 3 Temple Key 4 Temple Key 5 Temple Key 6 Temple Key 7 Temple Key 8 Temple Key 9 Temple Keys Temple Keys Agon Temple Keys Fortress Temple Keys Temple Temple Keys Torvus Umos Utility Crystals Varia Suit Vehicles Visors Wall Jump Surface War Chest War Wasp Cocoon Weapon Systems Webbing Xenobiology
(Source: The Cutting Room Floor)

A few of the more interesting entries are highlighted. Many of these creatures are complete unknowns.


Removed bomb weapons

From the above, we can speculate that the following may have been excised:

Annihilator Bomb

Dark Bomb

Light Bomb


It seems that light/dark attuned variations of the Power Bombs were intended. These appear to have been excised early in development.

A possible application for the “Light Bomb” could be the creation of light fields in on Dark Aether, as a slowly-shrinking area in which Samus can regain health and be protected from the corrosive environment. Such a bomb would have been more-than-useful in the infamous Boost Ball Guardian battle.

Theories would be welcomed on what the Annihilator Bomb and Dark Bomb could have done.


Removed optional weapons

Three of the above excised data entries may also refer to excised optional weapons:

Dark Shredder

Lightblast

Imploder



These may indicate that further Charge Combos were intended for inclusion, alongside the Darkbust, Sunburst and Sonic Boom that made it into the final game.


Metroid Hive

The obsolete scan data refers to a “Metroid Hive”, of which no such place exists in the final game. It is worth noting that the only place in the entire franchise to be referred to by this name is the final location of Metroid 2: Return of Samus, the very heart of the Metroid Queen’s lair. Could there have been an early plan to include a Metroid Queen somewhere on Aether?


Multiple Viruses

Buried in the obsolete menu code, reference has been discovered to two different types of suit viruses:

RezbitSuitSoftwareVirus
RezbitWeaponVirus
In the final release of Metroid Prime 2, the “Suit Software Virus” is used by the Rezbit creatures to plague Samus on her journey, but no “Weapon Virus” exists.


More Grandiose Emperor Ing Battle

Over at The Cutting Room Floor, an observant investigator has discovered some unused collision detection data that still exists in the final battle with the ultimate Ing. The information is supported by contrasting the ingame model with a piece of concept art, that shows a glowing energy radiating from these areas of unused collision information:

The penultimate boss of the game, the Emperor Ing, has a few discrepancies in its final phase which suggest the fight was to be a much more complex, strategic affair than it wound up as.

Further exposure to Phazon has mutated the Emperor Ing. It is now capable of shielding its vulnerable areas with energy barriers. Beams of opposite polarity can damage these barriers, however. Heavy damage to these barriers will cause them to drop, exposing the creatures weak spots. Target the weak spots to immobilize and damage the enemy.

Mutated Emperor Ing's scan data refers to it putting up barriers around its weak points- of which there were multiple. You would have needed to switch beams to match the barrier color at the moment, and destroy the barrier before letting loose on that weak spot; presumably, after a point either the barrier would be restored or the weak spot destroyed, in either case forcing you to return to the prior state of pulling down the barriers. It's mentioned that these weak spots would be used to hinder and immobilize the Emperor Ing; this is in keeping with their known location, since they're actually still partially present!



The weak spots are five in total, one located behind each foot; they're invisible, non-solid, and vulnerable only to the Screw Attack in the final game. The Emperor Ing's script no longer has any reaction to being hit in them; it just continues moving. No barriers are put up, either. They're just there- bits of invisible collision that can be used to do severe damage to the Emperor Ing. However, quite a bit remains which suggests how the fight would have worked.



There are empty Ing "eye" sockets at the joint of each leg. A piece of concept art in the Image Gallery reveals that these were intended to have fleshy orbs matching the color of the core in them- the barriers, presumably. It can be assumed you'd have targeted and destroyed these (thus breaking their barriers, and leaving the empty sockets on the model) before attacking the weak point they protected. An unfinished, untextured model is present in metroid2.pak, with the Emperor Ing's used geometry. It's a small, irregular lump, similar in shape to the Inglet's eye but substantially larger, perfectly sized to fit into the sockets present on the legs. It's probable that this was the model used for the "eyes" there.



It should be noted that the game handles damage to these weak points and damage to the core differently; if the Emperor Ing is damaged using one of the weak points on his legs while the core is any color but red, and beam damage is dealt to the core after this but before it changes color, all of the damage dealt through the old weak points will be completely recovered. This means that the game keeps track of the damage dealt to these weak points separately, which suggests they were to be destructible. The code allowing the Emperor Ing to heal in this situation probably has something to do with the barrier color switching.
This theory seems rational and evidenced, and suggests that the final battle with the Ing Emperor was originally to have been a more challenging ordeal. Samus would have been required to quickly swap light and dark beams in order to hit certain specific glowing vulnerable points in his dark fleshy body. Whether this was an excised portion of the final fight, or an alternate take on a stage of the existing final battle, is uncertain.


Icemite



At some point in development, the game would have included a creature known as “Icemite”. Given how Metroid Prime 2 avoids the lava/ice themes explored by its predecessor, it is uncertain where the creature would have fitted in.


Unknown Creatures



These unrecognised creatures are part of the game’s concept art, but there purpose is a mystery.


”Celestial” Light Suit



At some point in development, a very different looking Light Suit was planned. The concept notes refer to the design as “organic”, possibly indicating that the armour was grown, is alive, or was taken from a living being. This could hint at an unexplored plot direction. The notes also call the armour “celestial”, could it have been an upgrade to the existing Light Suit?


Planned Final Boss







These pieces of art suggest that at some point in development, Metroid Prime 2’s final boss was intended to be a far more monstrous encounter.

Dark Samus appears to have broken the surface of the planet, and is absorbing material to create herself a colossal battle armour. The cracks in the surface of the world would suggest that Samus must leap between the platforms floating on molten rock (perhaps with the Screw Attack?) to somehow defeat her enemy.

If this sequence was to take place after Samus had defeated the Emperor Ing and retrieved the last of Aether’s energy, then perhaps Dark Samus is somehow channelling and absorbing the energies of the collapsing planet into herself, in a violent and destructive attempt to destroy her twin.


Alternate Bad Ending?



This concept piece could suggest that at some point in development, Retro were going to show us the consequences of our Game Over. Dark Samus, wielding the Light Suit and apparently entirely stabilised, has absorbed enough Phazon from Aether to allow her to fly through space. As she departs, the planet violently explodes behind her, condemning the Luminoth and Ing to complete extinction.

That Dark Samus is wearing the Light Suit could suggest that she has been able to consume the energies of Aether, dooming both Light and Dark worlds.

(Acknowledgements: The Cutting Room Floor, Metroid Wikia, Metroid Database and the various Retro Studios current/former artists named in the thread have been invaluable.)

That’s everything.

I hope some of you enjoyed this. The final thread will be up at some point, with a look at the development of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. See you there.
 

JazzmanZ

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How come you never mentioned Ridley?

as far as I know he was planned for this game too there's even art floating around somewhere.
 

Mama Robotnik

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How come you never mentioned Ridley?

as far as I know he was planned for this game too there's even art floating around somewhere.
First I've heard of it.

Some people had a misconception that the "Dark_Possessed_Ridley" image (wearing Chozo armour) was from MP2, but its not. The "Dark Possessed" bit does not refer to the Ing or any event on Aether. More likely, it was an event that was going to happen in Prime 1, perhaps involving the Chozo ghosts.
 

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I would pay a fortune for a book of concept art for all the stuff Nintendo didn't make. This stuff is so awesome.

I really enjoyed reading about MP 1.5, thanks for unearthing all this cool stuff.

You'd be my hero if you could ever find any concept art for the infamous/alleged Sheik spinoff.
 

Mama Robotnik

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You'd be my hero if you could ever find any concept art for the infamous/alleged Sheik spinoff.
I've not seen a thing to do with this, at all. Not even a hint, and that's after scrutinising A LOT of portfolios including contract staff.

I think its likely a myth.
 
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What i've learned from reading your threads is that most of this artwork/animations are amazing and now i want a metroid on wii U.
 

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Upon reading, I think I like the original interpretation of Dark Samus. I like the interpretation of her being more Metroid like and absorbing different enemies for their strength. It would make more sense since Dark Samus = Metroid Prime was kinda abandoned as a plot line. Dark Samus was left to be too ambigous for me and they never fully established that connection between Dark Samus and Metroid Prime which is kinda the entire reason why the series is called Metroid Prime and not Dark Samus.
 

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Shit, even Metroid Prime 2's scrapped ideas proves that it was the best of the series by a country mile. Holy shit, an even more complex/twitch based Emperor Ing boss battle? Dark Samus siphoning energy from a dimensional collapse for the epilogue battle? A somewhat strong bit of evidence suggesting that my opinion on what Dark Samus' role in Echoes was correct?

Godlike.
 

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MR, excellent as always. Keep up the great work.
 

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most of this was in the art galleries in the game but still, interesting read.
that final boss would have been way better than what we got.

also, i think the proper credit to the Emperor Ing's weak spots discovery should go to Master ZED of Metroid2002.com. he was one of the very first persons that discovered the trick about the invisible weak spots several years ago and showed how it could be exploited to kill the boss in 1 shot. before that people thought the game was just glitching up when screw attack was used but he pointed out those weak spots and later more people researched it.
 

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First I've heard of it.

Some people had a misconception that the "Dark_Possessed_Ridley" image (wearing Chozo armour) was from MP2, but its not. The "Dark Possessed" bit does not refer to the Ing or any event on Aether. More likely, it was an event that was going to happen in Prime 1, perhaps involving the Chozo ghosts.
that's a bit disappointing to know. that art looked quite wild.
but if it was intended for mp1, then it would have replaced the meta ridley there.
 

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I get so excited when you post these threads. Great work. Even though I haven't played as many Nintendo games in recent years Metroid will still always be a series that I completely adore and am fascinated by. All of this stuff is way cooler than what we actually got in MP2.
 

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This is some of the best stuff I've seen here on Gaf for awhile. Very awesome that Metroid Prime 1.5 helped mold the darker Prime 2.

That final boss fight would have been amazingly intense.
 

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Not a big fan of the Metroid games but do like the research you're putting in Mama Robotnik!
 

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Holly shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

This stuff is amazing. I went through the MP1 art in the other thread and my jaw was droped the whole time.

This stuff reignites my appreciation for what Retro has done for the series. There's a real sense of respect and boldness when it comes to the way they approached designing for Metroid.
 

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How'd you arrive on that 'Organic Samus' art as being a suit design for Samus herself? That's very clearly the final design of Dark Samus, what gave you the indication that it was meant as anything else?
 

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Upon reading, I think I like the original interpretation of Dark Samus. I like the interpretation of her being more Metroid like and absorbing different enemies for their strength. It would make more sense since Dark Samus = Metroid Prime was kinda abandoned as a plot line. Dark Samus was left to be too ambigous for me and they never fully established that connection between Dark Samus and Metroid Prime which is kinda the entire reason why the series is called Metroid Prime and not Dark Samus.
Yeah, Dark Samus' nature as a Metroid/Human/Phazon hybrid creature remains woefully unexplored. The direction they pursued was so focused on Phazon that the Metroid part of her origin was effectively ignored.

Metroids are adaptable, durable and borderline magical creatures in a world of reason and science. They consume a base "life force" that every living creature possesses but is wholly unmeasurable. The combination of these remarkable traits with a human form (complete with a brain and ability to reason as seen in MP2 and MP3) could have led to some very interesting developments. The idea of Dark Samus as a voracious consumer of life (both physical attributes for self-improvement and "life force" for nourishment) could have been a fascinating alternative road for her character, instead of the Phazon-devoted tyrant.

How'd you arrive on that 'Organic Samus' art as being a suit design for Samus herself? That's very clearly the final design of Dark Samus, what gave you the indication that it was meant as anything else?
Clumsy wording on my part, I didn't make it clear enough that all the Samus designs in the OP (aside from the Light Suit) were potential alternate or early takes on Dark Samus.

I'm not certain that the design you highlight is definitely the absolutely final Dark Samus design though. The concept still has a number of differences when compared with her finalised form in the released Metroid Prime 2. I think there were still a few refinements to be made in the design between this concept piece and her finished appearance, myself The concept piece is also quite different from Dark Samus' glowing translucent organic appearance in the endgame, though you probably weren't referring to that.
 
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In 2,
Dark Samus frees the Metroids from Agon Wastes.

In 3 Dark Samus controls the space pirates like their Phazon god and has them breed Metroids such as the Miniroid, Hopping Metroid and Metroid Hatcher. Phaaze especially seems to have been turned into a Metroid breeding ground. There’s a specific breed of Phazon Metroid there and what looks like husks similar to Metroid Prime's.
Spoilered just in case.

So I wouldn’t say the Metroid aspect of her was effectively ignored.
 

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Holy shit. The sketches of Samus entering for the first time in the dark world and Samus meeting for the first time Dark Samus and the Ing are outstanding.
 

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I always felt a slight and latent medieval feeling in MP2, which fitted I think with the whole Light/Darkness theme and the conflict between Samus and Dark Samus (basically an old trope of the Hero of Light/Dark Evil) and of course the monsters/Ing Emperor.

I never managed to decide if it was just me, or if it was scrapped or not intended, but seeing those armors and designs, I wasn't really wrong.

I wish the game had been more of that mix between sci-fi and medieval. As it is it felt to me rather stuck somewhere not knowing what to do with itself.

Never had the chance to discuss it, maybe it is obvious for everyone or I'm just crazy.
 

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Really, the most fascinating things about this particular investigation into the concept materials for Echoes is the suggestion that Dark Samus could have been much more Metroid like in ability. I love the suggestion that the being could become an otherworldly consumer driven by a perversion of the Metroid's sole instinct to feed while further mutating and enhancing itself into something truly alien versus the semi-hamfisted stalker rival type they made her in Prime 3.
 

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Did you discover why the Boost Guardian was such a fucking arsehole?
A possible application for the “Light Bomb” could be the creation of light fields in on Dark Aether, as a slowly-shrinking area in which Samus can regain health and be protected from the corrosive environment. Such a bomb would have been more-than-useful in the infamous Boost Ball Guardian battle.
Yes, he just might have.
 

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Fascinating stuff once again, interesting to see that some of the 1.5 ideas made the jump over in some form.
And the MP2 Space pirate design is easily my favourite, they seem to be quite different in each entry.