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My review of Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)

Pachinko said:
It doesn't matter how old or crappy it is, the fact that someone was insulted enough by it's quality to need a pedastal to bitch is as good a reason as any to start a new thread on it.

I only ever played the demo but going by those videos it's a damn terrible shame the game was released like that, here was segas chance to redo sonic again and give the series another sonic adventure style reboot but they fucked it up bad. Would sega really have been that worse for the wear if they'd delayed it until august 2008? it could have launched simultaniously on ps3/360 that way, been 90% bug free instead of 5% bug free and maybe could have averaged 7 or 8 out of 10 instead of 2's and 3's. The potential looks like it was there for a good game but it just didn't happen.

Even the new sonic game, while it looks better then this, still doesn't look so hot. It looks like an on rails shooter with a werewolf level thrown in.
Even 10 more years of development time wasn't going to fix the fundamental flaws that existed in this game. Glitches were far from the worst aspect
 
Legit the worst game I've ever played. Horrible design, abysmal controls and a hideous camera. Every aspect of the game had severe flaws. A 0/10 if there ever were one. I loved the original Sonic Adventure and tolerated the sequel and Sonic Heroes but Sega totally lost the plot with this one.
 
I honestly think they game would have been very good if they finished it. But they didn't. I beat it anyway, but not without getting pissed at bugs and loading times.

Felt so incomplete, probably because it WAS.
 
Susurrus said:
I honestly think they game would have been very good if they finished it. But they didn't. I beat it anyway, but not without getting pissed at bugs and loading times.

Felt so incomplete, probably because it WAS.
I can't even imagine how the game would have been good. As I've said some of the problems were so fundamental that they would have had to scrap everything to make a competent game. The failure level was astounding
 
grandjedi6 said:
I can't even imagine how the game would have been good. As I've said some of the problems were so fundamental that they would have had to scrap everything to make a competent game. The failure level was astounding
Can we say the game would of been Meh and forgettable rather then so bad as to never forget if it wasn't plagued by glitches and load times?
 
Drkirby said:
Can we say the game would of been Meh and forgettable rather then so bad as to never forget if it wasn't plagued by glitches and load times?
Doubtful. The glitches and load times were just the icing on the cake. I really doubt the plot for example would have gone without scorn.
 
a Master Ninja said:
I'm someone liked both Sonic Adventure games. Assuming the NXE hardware installs reduce the load times dramatically, would the game be worth playing?

No, don't bother, seriously.

I two liked both of the Sonic Adventure games, I even thought the pre-release demo wasn't too bad. But somehow they managed to even fuck that level up too in the final game. I rented this on a free Gamefly trial so it cost me nothing and I still felt ripped off.

The best thing about the game is that it was fairly stingy on achievements and I couldn't bear to play any longer. Since I've earned zero gamerscore on it I'll be able to delete any trace of it from my played games list when the new dash update comes out :D
 
Just watching the LP is making me wonder what kind of retard gave this game a 9 in Play. Goddamn, the universe should have imploded from so much wrong
 
HK-47 said:
Just watching the LP is making me wonder what kind of retard gave this game a 9 in Play. Goddamn, the universe should have imploded from so much wrong

The same guy that gave Golden Axe Beast Rider an 8.
 
KevinCow said:
I watched that back when they were still uploading the videos. By far the most hilarious video game playthrough I've ever watched.

And yes, it is pretty scary hearing them slowly descend into madness throughout the whole thing.
Heh, me too. I followed it from the beginning, and registered halfway through. Still don't post too much, I tend to avoid posting unless I have something to contribute, though.
 
Okay I played a bit more. Another level and boss as Sonic, a level and boss as Silver.

Sonic's level was less annoying than the first, but it wasn't really enjoyable. After beating Silver (who is really fucking cheap by the way) I decided to give his story a try and I accidentally had some fun. The basic gameplay is still flawed, but the ideas are interesting and I could easily see this fleshed out into a full game (a better one at that). I may just keep on trucking with Silver.

Playing as Blaze is annoying. Why did they even do this? It sucked in Sonic Heroes and it sucks here.
 
Kulock said:
"Like, ohmigaaaawd, how dare they insult my pairing!"

The cleverest thing in the game is the "Test of Love" which makes you chose between Amy and the princess. It affects absolutely nothing, it's only there to make you second-guess yourself.

:lol :lol
 
I wonder if this game would be better once it's installed on the 360 to kill loading times.

I mean, I don't REALLY wonder that, but someone should try it.
 
crowphoenix said:
This game killed the Sonic franchise for me. I now have no interest in any future games, which is kinda sad.
Sort of the same here. I'm finding it really hard to get excited for Sonic Unleashed due to Sonic 2006. Sonic 2006 was one of the games that made me want to get a 360 until the actual reviews came in.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
Here's my review:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J0BNjdXzCk
 
It was hard to pick a thread for this, but this game really doesn't deserve another new one. Still, when I saw this, I couldn't believe GAF hadn't seen it. You want to know how batshit insane Sonic 2k6's development apparently was?

If the info is true, supposedly Elise's body is modeled under her dress, complete with polygonal, textured nipples.

I'm putting some caveats on there because I don't know if the model has been modified, but I personally believe it wasn't.

http://www.tssznews.com/2009/05/05/nudity-in-sonic-2006/ (NSFW images, thumbnailed)
http://www.sonicstadium.org/board/index.php?showtopic=1114 (NSFW links)

Shorthand version is this: Many of the models have been ripped to a format that can be imported into Garry's Mod. This has happened with lots of the previous Sonic games, Smash Bros, Galaxy, et cetera, there's a thread with some funny creations that pops up here from time to time. As you can see, the poster turned up transparency on the dress part, and then used the camera to clip into the model for a better view.

Now, what's very possible is that they cheated and modified an existing model from some resource to make Elise, and didn't remember to fix it. However, if this really is the unmodified model, that's a pretty significant thing to miss, particularly for a game that sells in this:

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And if you think there's no chance of the player ever seeing it in game, now that people know it's there, I'm sure they'll find creative ways to glitch the camera to clipping into the models to confirm.

I'm not outraged, I just love that it adds to the laundry list of what a huge catastrophe Sonic 2006 was. :lol
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
One day, the internet will be separated in two. Sonic fans on one, and the rest of us on the other. And it will be a glorious day.
What if you are part of both like I am? Did your brain implode yet?
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
One day, the internet will be separated in two. Sonic fans on one, and the rest of us on the other. And it will be a glorious day.

And that has nothing to do with something the developers did. :lol If this had been the case with one of the Brawl models, people probably would've eventually found it there too.
 
People are still curious enough to go any where near this game still? Mind you I did the same exact thing: picked it up really cheap to see if it was really that bad, and only played it for about an hour before I couldn't take anymore. Fixing all the load times and glitches would not have come close to saving this game, as every decision in it was wrong to begin with. Nothing is done right, it fails on so many levels it's like they went out of their way to fuck it up. I think I ripped the disc out of my PS3 as soon as I solved that "which guard in this area is the general" puzzle. I mean wow, they must of being doing this on purpose.
 
Son of Godzilla said:
will the midget sonic fans fight the other midgets?

There will be a 1-way window on our side. No longer will the human race need religion and the concept of hell to instill fear into our psychology and society, because they will be able to look through this window into a world where Sonic fans run rampant.
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
There will be a 1-way window on our side. No longer will the human race need religion and the concept of hell to instill fear into our psychology and society, because they will be able to look through this window into a world where Sonic fans run rampant.

Oh my God, GAF delivers in spades. :lol
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
There will be a 1-way window on our side. No longer will the human race need religion and the concept of hell to instill fear into our psychology and society, because they will be able to look through this window into a world where Sonic fans run rampant.
:lol
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
There will be a 1-way window on our side. No longer will the human race need religion and the concept of hell to instill fear into our psychology and society, because they will be able to look through this window into a world where Sonic fans run rampant.
Since I am fan, yet normal, I guess I would be the man on the inside slaying them, starting with the ones wearing fursuits, and moving on to the fanfiction writers.......

Or would it be the other way around? With "fans" like that, I can't tell which is worse! :lol

Who am I kidding, it would be the fursuits. Those are directly linked to the horridness that is the fanfictions and fancharacters and porn. Prove me wrong, prove me wrong.
 
HUELEN10 said:
Since I am fan, yet normal, I guess I would be the man on the inside slaying them, starting with the ones wearing fursuits, and moving on to the fanfiction writers.......

Or would it be the other way around? With "fans" like that, I can't tell which is worse! :lol

Who am I kidding, it would be the fursuits. Those are directly linked to the horridness that is the fanfictions and fancharacters and porn. Prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

They all have swords and desert eagles now. You don't stand a chance.
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
They all have swords and desert eagles now. You don't stand a chance.
When the fuck did they get those? Well, I got something better. Sonic Team games that DON'T fail, like Space Channel 5(Close Enough Dammit).
 
How are the load times affected after install?

If an install would eliminate 50% of the loading, I'd be able to play this.

I will say this, underneath what is probably the single most rushed, alpha stage piece of software I have ever played, there is the heart of a good Sonic game.
 
I beat it, the action stages aren't that bad when they aren't broken piles of shit. so rarely.
 
Arpharmd B said:
How are the load times affected after install?

If an install would eliminate 50% of the loading, I'd be able to play this.

I will say this, underneath what is probably the single most rushed, alpha stage piece of software I have ever played, there is the heart of a good Sonic game.
I SAID IT WHEN I GOT NXE, BUT THAT WAS A WHILE AGO AND THIS NEEDS THE EMPHASIS


THEY ARE EVEN LONGER WITH AN INSTALL. YES THE MANAGED TO FUCK EVEN THAT UP GOD DAMN!
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
One day, the internet will be separated in two. Sonic fans on one, and the rest of us on the other. And it will be a glorious day.

Yeah but what about me? Sonic 2 and S3&K are fucking awesome games, and I do mean masterpieces here and everything else sucks.

Am I a Sonic fan?
 
TheCardPlayer said:
Yeah but what about me? Sonic 2 and S3&K are fucking awesome games, and I do mean masterpieces here and everything else sucks.

Am I a Sonic fan?

Nah, youre normal. Youre on our side. Its okay to have liked the past titles, but now those among us that perpetuate this...suffering...have to be sealed off until they bring their own ruin, or lets perhaps hope, we find a cure.

HUELEN10 said:
When the fuck did they get those? Well, I got something better. Sonic Team games that DON'T fail, like Space Channel 5(Close Enough Dammit).

The cool thing is, with you all sealed off, Sega won't have to make Sonic games anymore. You'll make your own entertainment. Your own...horrible, horrible entertainment. So Sega will be free to make great games again. Truly, I have created utopia.
 
SecretBonusPoint said:
The cool thing is, with you all sealed off, Sega won't have to make Sonic games anymore. You'll make your own entertainment. Your own...horrible, horrible entertainment. So Sega will be free to make great games again. Truly, I have created utopia.
Dude, I am on YOUR side, I just STILL believe in Sonic Team.


Sonic Team

BELIEVE
TheCardPlayer said:
Yeah but what about me? Sonic 2 and S3&K are fucking awesome games, and I do mean masterpieces here and everything else sucks.

Am I a Sonic fan?
Yes. If you enjoy the games for they game itself, then you are a true fan. Welcome to the club.
 
Arpharmd B said:
How are the load times affected after install?

If an install would eliminate 50% of the loading, I'd be able to play this.

I will say this, underneath what is probably the single most rushed, alpha stage piece of software I have ever played, there is the heart of a good Sonic game.
There isn't. There really, really isn't.

You'd be surpised to know that there is probably just as much dodgy furrie stuff for Starfox, Crash Bandicoot, Pokemon, Yoshi, pretty much everything with cartoon animals in it. Do they get sealed off from everyone else too? :lol
 
Wait does that mean that they are people out there who think Sonic 2 is a bad game? Seriously? REALLY? Or S3&K?

Give back your gamer card fuckers. What kind of dumbass could think these are bad games. I'm talking mental deficiency here.
 
TheCardPlayer said:
Wait does that mean that they are people out there who think Sonic 2 is a bad game? Seriously? REALLY? Or S3&K?

Give back your gamer card fuckers.
There are TONS of people who think it is dated and not really anything new to the table. The NEED to turn in thier gamer card.


BTW, as for me, I like the OTHER Sonic 2 better if you catch my drift.....
 
HUELEN10 said:
There are TONS of people who think it is dated and not really anything new to the table. The NEED to turn in thier gamer card.


BTW, as for me, I like the OTHER Sonic 2 better if you catch my drift.....
The one on Game Gear? :lol . Seriously even Sonic 1 wasn't good. Wait, Sonic CD is pretty damn good too.

It's kind of funny how Sonic is a gaming icon with 3 good games only.
 
HUELEN10 said:
There are TONS of people who think it is dated and not really anything new to the table. The NEED to turn in thier gamer card.


BTW, as for me, I like the OTHER Sonic 2 better if you catch my drift.....
Adventure 2? 8-Bit Sonic 2?

That's how bad this game is though. It has clouded a lot of peoples memories of the older games they loved and made them think those stunk too. It really did tarnish the Sonic franchise's reputation to most forever. The series could have survived from the Shadow game as that was a bizarre spin off experiment gone wrong, but it could not survive this.

As for that strange nipple under the dress thing, don't quite a few games do this? Oh yeah, beastiality jokes, gotcha.
 
TheCardPlayer said:
The one on Game Gear? :lol . Seriously even Sonic 1 wasn't good. Wait, Sonic CD is pretty damn good too.

It's kind of funny how Sonic is a gaming icon with 3 good games only.
I would argue more than that, after all it is just opinion.

Here are what I would honest-to-god deem good games that happen to be Sonic games and not just good SOnic games if you catch my drift.

Sonic 2
Sonic 2 8-bit (Better than Sonic 1 Genesis in my book)
Sonic CD JPN AKA The OTHER Sonic 2
Sonic Triple Trouble
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic Advance
Sonic Unleashed HD
Sonic Rush

All totally different, but I love them.
 
I don't know man. Sonic 2 and S3&K are amongst the best platformers ever but Sonic Unleashed? A good game? :lol
 
HUELEN10, There's a difference between Sonic fan and Sonic Fandom. SBP is obviously talking about the latter. Stop overanalyzing.

And Sonic 2 is soooo overated :P
 
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