Chance Hale
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Hopefully it makes it eventually though....I mean they have Atlus's localization team now right? ;-;
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Nagoshi talks about Yakuza localization (no 5, maybe Ishin), platform choice, & more
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Hopefully it makes it eventually though....I mean they have Atlus's localization team now right? ;-;
Nagoshi crushing dreams and giving false hopes for the future as well :/
Also I'm not really buying that they have to do the localization by themselves, it's just that Sega doesn't think they can make enough money.
With Ishin being on two platforms (even 3 if Vita in included), localization costs might be justified but I'm not hoping for anything at this point.
Also I'm not really buying that they have to do the localization by themselves, it's just that Sega doesn't think they can make enough money.
With Ishin being on two platforms (even 3 if Vita in included), localization costs might be justified but I'm not hoping for anything at this point.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
NISA is not Sega
I'm sure they have two different definitions of profitable
Kinda like the difference between a college student living with their parents and a PhD graduate who owns their own house. They can both work at McDonalds and make money, but while the college student might appreciate that paycheck, it's probably not worth the time of someone with much higher living expenses and access to much more appealing and lucrative opportunities.
Hopefully it makes it eventually though....I mean they have Atlus's localization team now right? ;-;
SEGA have their own strategy about this sort of stuff, see Valkyria Chronicles see their Vita games, if they think a game wont sell enough or don't have fanbase they will not do it, Atlus USA team mean nothing here since we are playing with SEGA rules here.
BronsonLee
Member
I WANT MICHAEL MADSEN BACK
Also lol stuff of note:
People getting butthurt about them not bringing over 5 when these games sell terrrrrible here, yet they brought over FIVE OTHER ONES, including fucking Dead Souls
Comparing a game like Yakuza to a fucking NISA game
However, the Ishin stuff is intriguing...the Vita stuff is weird though. He said crossplay...that basically means Vita version, no? You don't misspeak when it comes to that.
Yes, but surely some money is better than none. Sega doesn't even have to localize it themselves, they can let someone else do it and make pure profit. Sega's definition of profitable is likely unreasonable, which seems to be a problem among the bigger Japanese publishers like Square-Enix and Capcom.
publicpwnerer
Member
Sony needs to realise, the more that these niche and/or Japanese titles don't get translations, the PS4 and the Sony brand is losing it's allure.
For multiple generations, the Sony consoles have always been the go to consoles for me, solely due to platform exclusive Japanese titles & franchises.
There needs to be a process for translating titles alongside development, and getting it into the west ASAP. Even if it's just subtitles only. The title may only see sub 100k sales...but it's a significant advantage and a niche market fulfilled that your competitors aren't fulfilling
For multiple generations, the Sony consoles have always been the go to consoles for me, solely due to platform exclusive Japanese titles & franchises.
There needs to be a process for translating titles alongside development, and getting it into the west ASAP. Even if it's just subtitles only. The title may only see sub 100k sales...but it's a significant advantage and a niche market fulfilled that your competitors aren't fulfilling
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Probably, but they've been doing pretty well after scaling back on home console development to just proven franchises in territories they've proven to do well in, so I see that unlikely to change. Especially for a Yakuza game, which to my knowledge sold progressively worse over here with new each entry they brought over.
It probably is unlikely, since they're too stubborn to let anyone else handle the localization of their non-Sonic Japanese games. Maybe I'll get around to starting to learn to read Japanese someday.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Well.
Time to import 5, I guess.
Time to import 5, I guess.
Pristine_Condition
Member
I hope Atlus has some autonomy because I'm afraid Atlus is as good as dead in the west if Sega is totally in charge.
AgentOtaku
Member
I love how I retail bought yakuza 1, 3, 4, and Binary Domain, yet that still ain't good enough...
Thanks SEGA
Thanks SEGA
AgentOtaku
Member
SHOTEH FOCKUP!
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Time to learn Japanese
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Pretty revealing me thinks.
"How dare Sega not localize this series that I clearly have no intentions to buy or play!"
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Yakuza 5? Best in the series and GOTY last year for me. Sorry, that probably doesn't help
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if NISA's games outsold the Yakuza games at this point. It's pretty dire.
Madison Paige
Member
Maybe is it time to do something larger scale (such as Operation Rainfall) to get the fifth entry? Many people seem to have been looking forward to it, I'm sure if we all were to make some kind of major push to let Sega know that we would indeed purchase and play a basic Yakuza 5 translation, we can make it happen and also get more people interested in the series in one fell swoop. I definitely agree with that one poster about Sony having a potential niche to fill in the marketplace with the release of more obscure Japanese titles, and Yakuza 5 seems more than deserving of a chance to capture North American audiences.
Sega west have no strategy, they should be spun off amd just handle their western games and ios shit like they want to and not have a fucking THING to do with sega's japanese games ever again. put them on the market for other localisers because sega west arent doing anything at all with them. There is no plan, no strategy, just series left to die.
You can can argue about sales and profitability all day, it's irrelevant, PSO2 is the most popular and profitable game sega has EVER released and they fucked up releasing that.
Dragon1893
Member
Well, I guess that's it then. I'll just delete the rest of my post because it would probably get me banned.
IrishNinja
Member
so this is a bummer right here
this guy knows! BELIEVE
where are you getting "most likely" from? and please dont say "a guy on GAF"
also: no, every mainline Yakuza title has a good (and optional) catchup video at the beginning, so you can jump right in
and said company excels at top-tier localizations, too
game is like 5+ years old now though, might be time to import!
those 20 are worth all 76 bionic commando fans, though
PREACH
honestly, i'm holding out - the Operation Rainfall poll is about to end, and i wanna see what kind've momentum it gets.
no hurry either, i need to wait on KHH subs' YT walkthrough before i'd be ready. now, 1/2 HD i might go ahead with by the year's end.
this guy knows! BELIEVE
where are you getting "most likely" from? and please dont say "a guy on GAF"
also: no, every mainline Yakuza title has a good (and optional) catchup video at the beginning, so you can jump right in
and said company excels at top-tier localizations, too
game is like 5+ years old now though, might be time to import!
those 20 are worth all 76 bionic commando fans, though
PREACH
honestly, i'm holding out - the Operation Rainfall poll is about to end, and i wanna see what kind've momentum it gets.
no hurry either, i need to wait on KHH subs' YT walkthrough before i'd be ready. now, 1/2 HD i might go ahead with by the year's end.
Noisepurge
Member
yup, just bought it right now. ~50$ on eBay.
No matter, I just import it next year then play it in the future with a big kanji dictionary beside me.
Tizoc
Member
I still believe brah, Nagoshi said 'not at the moment', but then once Ishin is out they could focus on localizing Yakuza 5. The PS3's still kicking it in 2014, and we've waited a year, we can wait a few more months~
That1BlackGuy
Member
As I said thank goodness I watched the entire game (Yakuza 5) already once I saw the writing on the wall. Hopefully, he gets the green light to localize Ishin because I'd love to get my hands on that but just in case I won't get my hopes up.
Every time fans begged that there was a huge user base ready to buy the games, every time said imaginary user base didn't buy the game in enough numbers to make it worth SEGA's efforts. They even made a relatively large marketing push with 4, for naught.
Why people keep hoping for further entries to be localised is beyond me. We don't deserve it.
Why people keep hoping for further entries to be localised is beyond me. We don't deserve it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's a niche Japanese game. I don't know what they were expecting.
They need to market it with a bit more oomph. Show the heat moves, guys getting smashed with bikes etc. Make it out to be the Japanese GTA and it should help sell a few more. I think Sony should at least help with marketing if not localization.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Isn't that what they tried with the first game? Complete with the dub? I don't know if it will ever hit critical mass, but neither should it be.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
After reading this post from our old bud Segata Sanshiro, maybe you might not care as much? (come baaack, SS)
@Sanshiro_Segata: Hey, English Yakuza fans. I know you are disappointed. It sucks to not get a loc for a game you were looking forward to. If it's any consolation, RGG5 is the worst installment of the main series by far. You know when a great TV show goes a couple seasons too long just because it's making money? RGG5 could be gaming's poster boy for that. Three plots that completely fail to come together properly, Kiryu/Haruka/Akiyama completely shoehorned in, total disregard for 4's ending, A main plot more focused on a weird criticism/support of the Idol business instead of yakuza, some of the worst forced mini-games yet, Cutscenes go for nearly an hour all too frequently, new character is fun but his fighting is ass and he REALLY doesn't ever fit in the story. Essentially you've been deprived of season 8 of House. I wish I could roll back my regard for the series to where it was immediately after RGG4. It wasn't my favorite but it at least set up a promising future for the series, which has unfortunately been bulldozed by Dead Souls, Kurohyou 2, and 5. In conclusion, I guess be more disappointed you didn't get 1&2 HD. Those are awesome.
@Sanshiro_Segata: Hey, English Yakuza fans. I know you are disappointed. It sucks to not get a loc for a game you were looking forward to. If it's any consolation, RGG5 is the worst installment of the main series by far. You know when a great TV show goes a couple seasons too long just because it's making money? RGG5 could be gaming's poster boy for that. Three plots that completely fail to come together properly, Kiryu/Haruka/Akiyama completely shoehorned in, total disregard for 4's ending, A main plot more focused on a weird criticism/support of the Idol business instead of yakuza, some of the worst forced mini-games yet, Cutscenes go for nearly an hour all too frequently, new character is fun but his fighting is ass and he REALLY doesn't ever fit in the story. Essentially you've been deprived of season 8 of House. I wish I could roll back my regard for the series to where it was immediately after RGG4. It wasn't my favorite but it at least set up a promising future for the series, which has unfortunately been bulldozed by Dead Souls, Kurohyou 2, and 5. In conclusion, I guess be more disappointed you didn't get 1&2 HD. Those are awesome.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
this does not help.....I mean we missed out on 5 city's. FIVE CITY'S
Nope, I still want it. Bears fighting, idol battles and five fucking cities.
And I can actually play Yakuza 1-2, just not the HD version.
SpikedGunner
Member
I honestly hope Nagoshi and co. at least reconsider the issue, once Ishin is finished and before they move on to 6.
yea, it is telling whenever someone thinks that they'll ever dub a Yakuza game again that they're not paying attention to the series...no wonder we're in this situation.
Indeed, though the question is what kind of deal can make SEGA go ahead and allow Sony/OR Lai (or even Atlus themselves) localize the game...even Bayonetta got another chance through a full funding by Nintendo deal, what are Yakuza's chances for something similiar by others...then again, different situations I suppose.
Yea, marketing it as a Japanese GTA is a terrible idea and it obviously did not work the first time, especially with the English voices...they're different games even factoring the changes between both series.
To be honest, I'd rather have the main series localized rather the spin-offs ever again (doesn't mean I won't buy Ishin if it does make it).
yea, it is telling whenever someone thinks that they'll ever dub a Yakuza game again that they're not paying attention to the series...no wonder we're in this situation.
Indeed, though the question is what kind of deal can make SEGA go ahead and allow Sony/OR Lai (or even Atlus themselves) localize the game...even Bayonetta got another chance through a full funding by Nintendo deal, what are Yakuza's chances for something similiar by others...then again, different situations I suppose.
Yea, marketing it as a Japanese GTA is a terrible idea and it obviously did not work the first time, especially with the English voices...they're different games even factoring the changes between both series.
Considering he thought Valkyria 2 was the best in that series, him hating it makes me want it more
ShogunDarius
Member
well if Sega dont want to bring Yakuza west thats fine, just likes it fine for me not to bother with any of their other franchises, not like they actually bother releasing the game I want to play anymore but still :/
Augemitbutter
Member
i'm not listening. unban and mobilize the nagoshination. tweet yoshida, booya and the other guys to bring this over. it's a sony exclusive game, you want to see it released.
make an artsy film trailer and label it playstation c.a.m.p, i don't care.
make an artsy film trailer and label it playstation c.a.m.p, i don't care.