Davedough said:
LOL... clearly you've never been to New Mexico.... thats what we get to look down on.
Phoenix has its charms, you just need to know someone who is versed at showing it to you. I love Phoenix and wouldn't want to live anywhere else (well, of course I would, but money wont allow me to live on a beach in Belize). And to be fair... flying in from Maui can make ANY place look horrible.
I concur that Phoenix is pretty nice. Most of all affordable. And I've lived on both coasts, in Chicago, and in France.
+Cheap housing for the size of the city. You can get a really nice house for a price that wouldn't even get you into a one-room condo in some cities. If you like the idea of having a backyard, barbecuing, a nice pool, those are standard issue in the Phoenix area whereas they're huge luxuries in many other urban areas.
+Weather is amazing for all but three months. I hate humidity too so Phoenix was doubly amazing for me from a weather perspective.
+There are some cool parts to Phoenix if you care to look around. Tempe is nice, parts of central Phoenix are nice, etc.
+In my experience, people from Phoenix are just generally pretty chill and nice.
-Summer obviously. I'd give this a half-minus though because the entire city is just equipped to deal with the summer. In NYC it's not nearly as hot obviously but half the places don't have AC, or the AC is broken, and it's humid as fuck so you'll find yourself sweating more than you would in Phoenix ironically.
-Some parts are lame, but they are easy to avoid for the most part. For example never go to Mesa. Also there are a lot of parts of the area that are full of cookie-cutter houses, which most people aren't into. Again just stay away if that's not your thing.
-While it does have an increasingly good culture and nightlife, it still pales in comparison to any real city. Unless you're a golfer and are into the Scottsdale scene. Then it is Shangri-La, seriously.
-No snow or real seasons if you are into that (which I kind of am).
-If you don't like driving, don't move to Phoenix.