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Idk about that but there are more stealth-action scenarios to sneak my way through and no one else is really taking up that mantle after MGS and Splinter Cell, so I'm down.
Look at all that oppression on that that unique mystical creature.If you want to know how the story continues just watch your local christopher street days parade.
I'd much rather a new franchise or a return to Uncharted (or Jak and Daxter), but it was clearly successful, so they were clearly going to make a 3rd one
I'd much rather a new franchise or a return to Uncharted (or Jak and Daxter), but it was clearly successful, so they were clearly going to make a 3rd one
If you want to know how the story continues just watch your local christopher street days parade.
yeah, & old nate explaining to his lovely daughter how, over the course of those crazy adventures, he ended up shooting several thousand fellow crazies (because, well, he had to, right?). for me, easily one of the most awkward, uncomfortable, & bizarre video game endings i've ever witnessed...Uncharted doesn't need a return either. U4 had a perfect family with a beach house ending, old Nathan reminiscing about the past, surviving craziest adventures. Let it be. In total theres 6 Uncharted games and only 2 TLOU so not sure what people mean by beating a dead horse, its not even a trilogy yet...
Just miserable and pointless.
Yes absolutely
Part 2 was the bottom of the hero's journey
Part 3 will be the redemption arc for Ellie and will be a lot more hopeful
Also liked the "Jerry saves Zebra's in his spare time, don't you feel bad for not letting him kill Ellie now?".Her journey is unnatural and artificial. I can't stop seeing the social politics of the creator because it's almost like you can see the strings of them attached to the characters on screen. Ellie just doesn't act, move, think like any female would, lesbian or otherwise, it's a script written for a male character.
Abby's character is just ridiculous in other ways, that one displays the failures of Neil Druckmann's writting. He has her kill Joel in the most stupid of circumstances and then go "look, she pets doggies, I bet you like her now.". I don't know if it's arrogance or incompetence that he thought he could make that man-woman character work.
I prefer to make jokes about the stupidity of it all, because otherwise it's annoying how certain ways of thinking have destroyed a previously god tier studio.
I don't think it wouldn't work very well. Ellie is portrayed not as misunderstood, but a stone cold psychopath.Yes absolutely
Part 2 was the bottom of the hero's journey
Part 3 will be the redemption arc for Ellie and will be a lot more hopeful
Yes absolutely
Part 2 was the bottom of the hero's journey
Part 3 will be the redemption arc for Ellie and will be a lot more hopeful
"look, she pets doggies, I bet you like her now."
Anyway, I don't think Ellie is an archetypal hero.
Yeah.
The story of Joel being resurrected by the virus only for it to make him gay but by the end of his journey to gain his straightness back he will find out the ultimate truth...
He actually was MtF trans all along
happy end
Can't wait!
all dialogue could be replaced with dog barks and id be fine.Found part 2 dirt cheap on Black Friday so I’m about to jump in to see if it can hold up when the story surprises aren’t there, everyone has spoiled everything by now. Unplayed my thinking is: Just get the story back on track again, vengence isn’t that interesting.
Yeah I will, I think I know almost everything about the story, pregnant kill and all that horrible stuff, it’ll be interesting to see if I can handle it tbh. It’s on my next game to play list, but first Horizon Forbidden West.all dialogue could be replaced with dog barks and id be fine.
would probably prefer it.
come to think of it, no dialogue at all would probably be ideal. just emote.
anyway, my point is the story of TLOU 1 or 2 isnt good, but it has great presentation, atmosphere, and gameplay, and TLOU 2's presentation and gameplay have been significantly refined from TLOU 1.
so play it for that reason, if nothing else.
It's ok when Joel does it.
She isn't. I wouldn't even call her an anti-hero because there's nothing even subversively heroic about her. She's a doggedly determined force of indiscriminate destruction right until the game's denouement and motivated purely by negative feelings throughout.
Part 1 is the call to action, the Supernatural circumstance (immunity) and the mentor (Joel) helping her to change as a person and become a competent killerI don't think it wouldn't work very well. Ellie is portrayed not as misunderstood, but a stone cold psychopath.
Given how realistic the game is, it would tie it's self up in knots trying to make that work. Especially with two characters. It'll be Abby's story.
The hero's quest you've presented already doesn't fit well with part 2 because they killed Joel. ie: Ellie has no mentor in part 2. Even the helpers felt forced here (Jessie).
I think the hero's quest in this story is already too fragmented for it to be applied in any real manner.
1. Ellie's motive is established in part 1 which is that she has the lone immunity factor that can save humanity. It is both Supernatural and a call to action larger than her existing world view . Part 2 focuses on the abyss of the heroes journeyI don't think Ellie's story qualifies for the Hero's Journey template. A few reasons...
1. In order for a journey to be "heroic" (in the mythological-spiritual sense), the protagonist has to be called beyond and outside him/herself to something larger than just his/her normal, egoic concerns. However, that doesn't happen here. Ellie's motive is revenge, which is one of the lowest, pettiest motives that exists.
2. In a hero's journey, the hero's perspective always enlarges -- the hero learns that the world is much larger and more mysterious than he/she expected. For example, think of Luke Skywalker, the innocent kid on a bumpkin planet, who discovers Obi Wan and the world of the Force -- big expansion in perspective. Nothing like that happens here. Ellie's perspective doesn't expand. If anything, it shrinks. She becomes relentlessly small-minded.
3. In a hero's journey, there are usually supernatural helpers that invite or give assistance (see figure). There is none of that here.
4. No mentors.
5. In the context of the hero's journey, a "call to adventure" has a spiritual connotation. A call to rage is not a call to adventure.
Anyway, I don't think Ellie is an archetypal hero.
Did he? What's so different? They're unning and with mostly the same people doing the same old self-serving shit, just under a different guy.All of this would make sense if Joel hadn't killed her dad and essentially destroyed her way of life and that of her friends.
My thing is that she'd been pushing Owen away for years. It's a bit contrived for her to follow him hook line and sinker when she knows he's got someone else pregnant.She's following Owen's lead after he gets disillusioned with the WLF and the war, which makes sense because he means an awful lot to her. Not quite the same conditions but the motive is there. Owen is the only one she sees as someone to be completely trusted, if not moreso than Joel/Tess' relationship. She'll follow him over the WLF.
People liked Joel when he began breaking down his barriers to Ellie
My thing is that she'd been pushing Owen away for years.
1. Ellie's motive is established in part 1 which is that she has the lone immunity factor that can save humanity. It is both Supernatural and a call to action larger than her existing world view . Part 2 focuses on the abyss of the heroes journey
2. Again that's addressed in part 1, and the challenge of Ellie's character is coming to terms with the apparent loss of her purpose and the loss of her mentor in Part 2
3. Joel
4. Joel
5. You're only talking about Part 2. This is a 3 part game with a character arc to be established over that whole thing.