veloxStrix
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Too bad Xenoblade is $100 dollars. -_-
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NeoGAF's Essential RPGs - 2015 edition
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You should be thankful as that price tag saved you from playing yet another overrated game. Though if you live in the US it looks like you can rent it from Gamefly.
So what you saying is that the top three spots are pretty much set in stone.
Well until Persona 5 then it will be some combination Chrono Trigger, Persona 4, Persona 5, and then all the rest.
Persona, Xenoblade, and Fire Emblem are the only games out of the top ten I haven't played, better get to it.
I'm just going to wait for the n3DS version, but I wonder how much it would cost to rent Xenoblade Chronicles from Gamefly, then use the keep feature.
I'm just going to wait for the n3DS version, but I wonder how much it would cost to rent Xenoblade Chronicles from Gamefly, then use the keep feature.
Understandable why Bethesda's game tends to fall off really fast despite being hugely popular especially in earlier years of their releases.
Well it could be memory met reality, but I don't think it's exclusively for that reason. Maybe the person who voted for them last year isn't around anymore. Or perhaps there are newer games that enticed them more.
Looks like the keep it feature is not there for Xenoblade.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Gave it a shot.
Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Chrono
SMT
Persona
Disgaea
Wild Arms
Shadow Hearts
Suikoden
Pokemon
Tales
Atelier
Lunar
Grandia
Lufia
Mother
Phantasy Star
Shining Force
Xeno-
Etrian Odyssey
Souls
Fallout
Mass Effect
Baldur's Gate
Dragon Age
Valkyrie Profile
Saga
Seiken Densetsu / SoM
Souls
Mario
BoF
Valkyrie Chronicles
Fire Emblem
Ys
Trails
TWEWY
Radiant Historia
Skies Arcadia
Vagrant Story
Planescape:Torment
Arc the Lad
Terranigma
Ultima
Wizardry
Ogre (TO/OB)
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Golden Sun
Bravely Default
Divinity
Paladin's Quest
There's a total of 49 RPG series & standalone games that I could see on a Neogaf Top RPG list... plus Paladin's Quest (which I still think is a great game that people didn't give a fair chance).
decoyplatypus
Member
The first two are some time-intensive games to have in your backlog. Playing them to completion might take more than 120 hours. Awakening is not too long.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Fuck the rest of your backlog! You play GS 2 now!
It really helps past 20, the point we're at now. The area of ties and single digit gaps is nearing. Every vote counts!
Fuck the rest of your backlog! You play GS 2 now!
I'll second this.
On the subject of backlogs this is the year I promise I will do some serious work on mine, I already knocked out Tacitcs Ogre: Let us Cling Together and while it won't be dethroning Final Fantasy Tactics I am happy with that honorable mention I gave it. I am playing Atelier Totori right now and I dunno how I feel about that game. Part of me likes it, but I can't really tell you why. Either way I think I will be done with it soon and then on to Planescape: Torment. After that finally finish Trails in the Sky and then onto Mask of the Betrayer or Baldur's Gate 2.
texhnolyze
Banned
Well, yeah. Perhaps it's just a coincidence.
Anway, it's interesting to see that people adore Xenoblade so much but hate DA Inquisition instead. Both games have heavy mmo-like fetch quests. Fetch quests in Xenoblade are even much more exhausting, with less directions. As an avid MMO gamer, I have no problem with fetch quests, but how about the general consensus?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Well, my opinion is that while most of Xenoblade's quests are pretty forgettable fetch quests (some of the named NPC quests can be quite good, on the other hand), the game is so much fun due to how good the battle system is (and the world really makes me want to explore it all). So the fetch quests aren't great, but the game is still a ton of fun due to the great mechanics.
Benzychenz
Member
Final Fantasy VI, Mass Effect and Planescape: Torment are the only games in top 10 I haven't played.
FF6 I will play sometime soon (along with 4 and 5).
Mass Effect I've been holding off on because I'd rather play it on PC one day rather than settle for the PS3 versions (I've done this with a lot of western multiplats this gen actually).
Planescape I'm really not interested in, I much prefer JRPGs to WRPGs, and WRPGs just get worse the further back you go imo. I just don't think I can bring myself to play it.
FF6 I will play sometime soon (along with 4 and 5).
Mass Effect I've been holding off on because I'd rather play it on PC one day rather than settle for the PS3 versions (I've done this with a lot of western multiplats this gen actually).
Planescape I'm really not interested in, I much prefer JRPGs to WRPGs, and WRPGs just get worse the further back you go imo. I just don't think I can bring myself to play it.
texhnolyze
Banned
I do agree that the combat is spot on. It's one of the most engaging combat in RPGs that I've played. However, I just found a few days ago that some people are in fact struggling with the combat.
zero shift
Banned
In a way I feel this both helps and hurts my point. It hurts because you listed nearly fifty quality franchises which went well past my thirty prediction. Not to mention some games you didn't listed that I can imagine people thinking they belonged such as Icewind Dale.
On the other hand that is only half of the top 100, and well there are some game series on there that I don't believe should be on there such as Bravely Default and Arc the Lad.
EDIT - If it wouldn't be too much trouble maybe there could be two lists. One of "Essential RPGs" and the other of "Essential RPG Franchises"? I can imagine that being a lot of work though.
Actually they get much better but to each his own.
so I was randomly browsing the BG wiki looking up some old companion quotes and now I'm re-installing BG2 for the tenth time or so. Funny how I remember almost nothing from my party interactions in DA:I or any of the other RPGs I've played recently, yet the voices of Imoen & friends and somehow burned themselves into my brain. Faster than Chiktikka Fastpaws!
I'm personally waiting for Pillars of Eternity and Torment to hit digital shelves.
Also, Divinity when I get a better video card.
Well they make the best RPGs so...
AnathemicOne
Banned
Huh GAF loves ME1 over ME2? Surprising.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I seem to recall seeing a similar last from previous years where the order was reversed.
Am I going crazy?
Not really if you follow ME or WRPG discussions.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Next thing its gonna be ME3 > ME1 > ME2 lol
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
No, the hatred for ME3 is absolutely overwhelming. Maybe in 15 years people might like it more.
My order is ME2 > ME3 > ME1, overall.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
What happened to you, TDF. You used to be cool.
Clearly he was never cool and can never be cool, ever.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
You must have me confused for someone else. I'm TDM, not TDF, and I was never cool.
He was thinking of ToneDeafFlutes
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Fucker. I was thinking Fucker.
Dracandros
Banned
Xenoblade's combat is not for everyone, especially not in the early parts of the game. I lost the will to finish the game on my own after
among other things that I didn't feel to desire to utilize or do.
If you can't enjoy the feel of combat in the average MMO, IMHO Xenoblade is not worth it. It has some great ideas to tell, but it isn't engaging enough to tell them to everyone.
I guess it's time to go through my own backlog and likes and see if a game like Lufia 2, Suikoden 2, the games in the Terranigma cycle, or other ATB games should get added or not.
the boss of Agniratha because the length of some fights just got too long
If you can't enjoy the feel of combat in the average MMO, IMHO Xenoblade is not worth it. It has some great ideas to tell, but it isn't engaging enough to tell them to everyone.
I guess it's time to go through my own backlog and likes and see if a game like Lufia 2, Suikoden 2, the games in the Terranigma cycle, or other ATB games should get added or not.
Augemitbutter
Member
Suiko 2 is not a game for backlogs. what are you doing?
better start playing after Brandish
Let's not go down that rabbit hole...
theprodigy
Member
yet you like RPG Codex's even more centralized list
just admit it, you simply don't like jrpgs
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
I felt the same way too at first, but then I went back to the game and tried out different main characters and enjoyed it a lot more.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
I'm pleasant surprised to see FFXII ranked that high. I thought many at GAF disliked it.
That's a good choice. Mouse aiming mitigates Mass Effect 1's combat flaws somewhat and the graphical difference is notable (and you'll want purty graphics for ME's impressive skyscapes).
It appears to have aged well. On release it felt like I was one of the few who loved it. Now it's regularly recommended.
I like JRPGs just fine. Phantasy Star is maybe my favorite RPG of all time.
The RPG Codex list is of the years best RPGs.
The GAF list is for the essential RPGs of ALL TIME and it is mostly JRPGs plus Mass Effect?
Come on, man.
AntiFacebook
Member
And not even good jrpgs(well, except for ff6)
So many on here I still need to play. I fear I never will.
I thought 12 was rather well received, despite the sweeping changes. 13, on the other hand...
while i was active in FFXIV i was suprised how many people held FFXII in high regard on the forums there. i also always assumed most didn't like it.
makes me happy to see it so high on the list.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
If you are going with ebay and amazon, they probably are expensive. You could buy them cheaper at GameStop. Depend on locations, they are selling Xenoblade at 50 dollars to 60 dollars.
http://www.gamestop.com/wii/games/xenoblade-chronicles-gamestop-exclusive/98535
I would recommend you to buy the game if you only like mmorpg element-like features. I can see why some people don't like it because it can be overwhelmed for some people.
Indicative of the community's demographics. It is what it is.
I can't wait for the year everyone wakes up and realizes that Xenoblade is an overstuffed piece of garbage.
threelights
Member
I think the word is underwhelming...
Anyway, I'd recommend Xenoblade, despite it's gameplay flaws, the story makes up for it and not all of the side content is bad, there's quite a few good stuff in there too. Also a pretty good game for exploration (although I wish there was even more of it).
50-60 US$ is totally worth it imo.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, I understand that for specific people but some people found combat engines overwhelming because they don't really understand how to play.
threelights
Member
It's like, if you've never played an MMO before, then it will be overwhelming for the first few hours. But if you played an MMO before, it will feel underwhelming, because even MMOs these days have more stuff in their battle systems.
It's a shame, there's so much stuff they could've done to improve the system... Oh well.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Right. I definitely agreed with you there. However I really enjoy the simplicity of the game so it don't really bothered me that much. I'm very curious to see what kind of changes that they would work on Xenoblade X's battle designs. I really hope that it would evolved into something better.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'm with you bro, but it's like going on an anime board and asking why their favorite movies are all animated. This forum skews in a certain direction.
VicDaMoan03
Member
What are everyone's chances we will see Fallout 4 or the next BGS RPG in 2015? Personally I give it a 50/50 probability.
It's hard for me to recommend cRPGs like Baldur's Gate when I simply haven't played them.
*shrugs*
human onion
Banned
That's pretty much the problem with making this a popularity contest. The top games aren't really essential if everyone on this forum played them. This list is less 'essential' and more 'popular'.
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