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[Blader]

Come on Netflix!

You could spend that money on some great series that died before their prime.

Pushing Daisies.

Firefly

Or even Journeyman! The actors of this show could easily open up their schedule to re-launch the show.

Fucking Gotham? Seriously?

I think you're underestimating how busy these actors' schedules are (especially for something like Firefly) as well as how much of a pay cut would be necessary for these guys to all abandon whatever gigs they have now for something that was already cancelled once before. It was nearly impossible to get everyone back together for Arrested Development (the whole cast was only able to share the same set for one or two scenes) and that's something with a shit ton of more acclaim and goodwill behind it than anything you listed.

I do think Netflix is going to look back on this move as a major mistake though...I mean, who knows, maybe the show turns out to be something amazing. But so far it doesn't look too hot, pilot reviews have been more lukewarm than anyway, and the only reason they're springing for this is because they see a Batman TV series and their eyes light up with dollar signs.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Why are people against this??

because they should be using that money to buy **insert obscure ass show that nobody would watch** instead!

 

[ZoddGutts]

Prefer if they were creating more original content.

 

[Hex]

wish they'd use that money to get some better movies. they sure do have a lot of crap on netflix, I've actually been thinking about just cancelling my sub and just getting crunchyroll instead.

Oh yeah, that is definitely movin on up to the east side

 

[sometimes i game]

Ok then. Show looks good, I guess someone at Netflix is really excited about the show. Same way someone at Netflix is obsessed with The Killing as Netflix saved it from cancellation 3 times.

Not against it per say but it does seem expensive considering an exclusive original show like House of Cards costs the same to make per episode.

But it's a different ballgame, they need to pay them to make up for losing a deal on Hulu for example.

 

[Hex]

Why are people against this??

Because people have to bitch about anything and everything.
It is the thing to do, didn't you get the memo?

 

[Platy]

Interesting how it is basically the Jessica Jones series that they are doing with Marvel.

But I give my hopes to Daredevil

 

[Mr.Swag]

Yea, I agree. Losing Starz really hurt and it feels like the void hasn't been filled. I almost think it might be strategy to keep a number of people on the disc plan too. It sounds tin foil hat-ish though.

I always thought the ultimate goal was to get rid of DVD plans?
Shipping and storage must be expensive, shit it's called NETflix, net as in internet.

 

[antonz]

Netflix needs to worry about its movie side of the business. It is total shit and the reason why I dropped Netflix and wont be getting it again until they fix that.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

Netflix has a damn powerful algorithm with a good track record telling them what people want to watch. I'm going to wager this works out for them.

 

[BattleMonkey]

So is this going to be a new target for shows, to get bought up by streaming services? Assume such things would affect the nature of the ratings system as networks have now alternate means of making money off their shows and not to worry so much about ratings numbers alone?

 

[WarrenMax007]

Come on Netflix!

You could spend that money on some great series that died before their prime.

Pushing Daisies.

Firefly

Or even Journeyman! The actors of this show could easily open up their schedule to re-launch the show.

Fucking Gotham? Seriously?

Edit:

I would even take one more season of Defying Gravity!!

Well there were talks about Netflix reviving Jericho.

 

[Mr.Swag]

So Gotham is an already profitable venture and it ain't aired yet.


Amy reviews out on the pilot?

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Same way someone at Netflix is obsessed with The Killing as Netflix saved it from cancellation 3 times.

They saved The Killing once in partnership with AMC and then once again on their own, and they did it because it's a popular show on Netflix and it's something their users like to watch. It's not that hard to understand.

 

[Phaethon0017]

Netflix got robbed.

 

[ivysaur12]

Not against it per say but it does seem expensive considering an exclusive original show like House of Cards costs the same to make per episode.

You can't really make any drama on television for $1.75 million an episode. Maybe Syfy or WeTV or SundanceTV? But not an actual show like one that would be on Netflix proper.

 

[Seth C]

I guess I'm against it because for that kind of money they could have nearly financed the damn thing themselves rather than just buying second airing rights.

 

[Mr.Swag]

They saved The Killing once in partnership with AMC and then once again on their own, and they did it because it's a popular show on Netflix and it's something their users like to watch.

I like to imagine that there's some dude in the content acquiring department thats just obsessed with the show and wanted to see how it ended.

 

[PaulKersey]

Bad investment. Show looks abysmal.

 

[SimleuqiR]

Well there were talks about Netflix reviving Jericho.

Those talks have cooled off it seems.

I guess Firefly is out of the question, as the show is such a huge cult classic now and Nathan is too busy making tons of cash with Castle. Plus Whedon is too busy making Disney tons of cash too.

 

[tim.mbp]

I'm guessing that 18-34 demo is even more important of streaming.

 

[Jarmel]

Fucking waste.

 

[StanleyStutters]

Nope, after each season.

"Each season will be made available after its broadcast run, which for the US could mean September 2015."

Wow, that's kind of a poor deal for Netflix. Though, I expect this will help the show get renewed since $1.75M of each episode is now covered by Netflix.

Amazon got Under The Dome eps within a week after they air. Wonder how much that cost them.

 

[ivysaur12]

I guess I'm against it because for that kind of money they could have nearly financed the damn thing themselves rather than just buying second airing rights.

They could not of. It's a gamble, but it could also pay out for them since these types of shows usually do very well on Netflix.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

The show looks like garbage.

 

[BattleMonkey]

People are only watching TV on netflix! Well yea, because theres no movies anymore

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I like to imagine that there's some dude in the content acquiring department thats just obsessed with the show and wanted to see how it ended.

A lot of people would like to imagine that, for some reason.

 

[Jarmel]

I guess Firefly is out of the question, as the show is such a huge cult classic now and Nathan is too busy making tons of cash with Castle. Plus Whedon is too busy making Disney tons of cash too.

Whedon is supposedly going to be done after Avengers 3. So that might open him up for something else.

 

[ivysaur12]

Wow, that's kind of a poor deal for Netflix. Though, I expect this will help the show get renewed since $1.75M of each episode is now covered by Netflix.

Amazon got Under The Dome eps within a week after they air. Wonder how much that cost them.

It's a Warner show on Fox, it doesn't really mean much for Fox in terms of their renewal thoughts.

 

[iavi]

If this was getting them the rights to show even a little after the initial airings, this would be worth it. But just to get the seasons after they've aired in their entirety is some hot booboo.

 

[DarkFlow]

Again, get a region unlocker for $2 and Netflix has tons of movies.
This is just Brazil.

 

[Xamdou]

They should invest on the third season of Arrow, money well spent.

 

[StanleyStutters]

It's a Warner show on Fox, it doesn't really mean much for Fox in terms of their renewal thoughts.

Ah, I see. Not really sure how it all works, I just assumed it'd go to Fox. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[ivysaur12]

Whedon is supposedly going to be done after Avengers 3. So that might open him up for something else.

It will absolutely not be Firefly. There's never going to be more Firely.

 

[WillyFive]

Nope, after each season.

"Each season will be made available after its broadcast run, which for the US could mean September 2015."

That's pointless and unsustainable. They paid so much for something it's subscribers expect almost every show to do already. If it was to air at the same time as Fox or earlier, the money would have made sense; but this is nuts.

 

[Magwik]

They should invest on the third season of Arrow, money well spent.

Every CW show ends up on Netflix anyways, they don't need to go out of their way.

 

[ivysaur12]

They should invest on the third season of Arrow, money well spent.

They're already going to get that.

If this was getting them the rights to show even a little after the initial airings, this would be worth it. But just to get the seasons after they've aired in their entirety is some hot booboo.

Not like tracking is a science, but it's tracking absurdly well, comparable to what Sleepy Hollow did last season. It'll premiere well.

That's pointless and unsustainable. They paid so much for something it's subscribers expect almost every show to do already. If it was to air at the same time as Fox or earlier, the money would have made sense; but this is nuts.

They got the exclusive SVOD rights versus Hulu or Amazon Prime.

 

[Community Forum]

I think Netflix should focus on movies, and Hulu should focus on TV shows.

I am a more-than-happy cord-cutter paying for both, and these deals are baffling to me.

 

[DataStream]

Is this about getting content or strangling Hulu? I imagine this means the show won't be available there like fox shows normally are after airing.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

It will absolutely not be Firefly. There's never going to be more Firely.

The arrival of Avengers 3 will coincide with the cancellation of Castle so Whedon and Fillion will be free to make a second season of Firefly. Whedon will use his Marvel money and Fillion will use his Castle syndication money and it's pretty much a done deal at this point so stop trying to downplay it.

 

[PSGames]

Looks like I was wrong. This costs about less than half the price per episode as House of Cards.

List of popular shows and their costs here: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls056710448/

 

[ivysaur12]

Also, this includes international licensing.

Under the pact, Netflix will become the exclusive subscription video on demand home of the Warner Bros. TV-produced Batman prequel in the U.S. as well as in each of the territories in which the streaming network operates and select other territories in which it plans to launch services.

Which is super lucrative and isn't just the US rights.

Looks like I was wrong. This costs about less than half the price per episode as House of Cards.

List of popular shows and their costs here: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls056710448/

Almost all of that is wrong.

 

[Sandfox]

This is decent when you consider that this show will probably do well solely because its related to Batman, and according to reviews it seems to be solid.

I think Netflix should focus on movies, and Hulu should focus on TV shows.

I am a more-than-happy cord-cutter paying for both, and these deals are baffling to me.

I'm sure there's more money in TV shows.

 

[number11]

With international rights.. This deal makes much more sense. (Although it will be interesting if the show launches in other countries at the same time it does in the US)

 

[An-Det]

This seems more precautionary than anything else. It's definitely a show that Netflix knows it's subscribers would want (based on Netflix's algorithms), so they probably figure it's better to pay 1.75 million per episode now than 2+ per after a potential renewal announcement next year, especially if the show ends up at least decent. Get in on the ground floor for a cheaper deal now. It's obviously risky though, since the quality and reception of the show is still in the air, but it's the kind of gamble they should be taking.

Edit: this includes international rights? That's a big plus for the deal.

 

[anaron]

People are calling this move dumb when regardless of quality, a show about a young Jim Gordon Batman series featuring all of his rogues, is going to be huge.

ok

 

[ivysaur12]

People are calling this move dumb when regardless of quality, a show about a young Jim Gordon Batman series featuring all of his rogues, is going to be huge.

ok

It could fizzle out, but it's only 16 episodes and will at least premiere to great numbers. It's also going to be the type of show that would perform well on Netflix and internationally.

 

[whytemyke]

I think it's awesome and is clearly a step at staying proactive in their competition with Amazon Prime.

I, personally, found Arrow thru Netflix and am now an avid watcher. So I really wonder if they've gotta pay that much for each episode. But still, I'm happy, as I may cut the chord either way this fall. But, I mean, between Vince Gilligan saying that Netflix saved Breaking Bad and Arrow clearly finding a whole new audience thru Netflix, I think they definitely have something they could use to lure networks to the table.


NOW GET THE RIGHTS TO SOUTHLAND!

 

[plantedunicorn]

Gotham doesn't really interest me so this move doesn't faze me. I just hope this leads to Netflix being more aggressive and securing more TV Shows and Movies

Hopefully most studios come to the realization that they shouldn't be fighting against Netflix and just partner up with them instead.

 

[GK86]

Why are people against this??

Who knows anymore. People bitch because of lack of content. People bitch when they nab content.

Again, get a region unlocker for $2 and Netflix has tons of movies.
This is just Brazil.

It is amazing that VPNs still have to be mentioned in Netflix threads. Either people don't listen or they are cheap as fuck.