Sorry guys, don't know what to say! I love that game. I can understand why die-hard Splinter Cell fans saw it as a major departure to the series' core but I think it was a good turn to make at the time. Even features like the B&W filter and the projected text really struck a chord with me. I was upset too at the omission of Spies vs Mercs but the co-op was still a great experience. It's one of the few games that I can always go back to and have a fun blast through.
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Sorry guys, don't know what to say! I love that game. I can understand why die-hard Splinter Cell fans saw it as a major departure to the series' core but I think it was a good turn to make at the time. Even features like the B&W filter and the projected text really struck a chord with me. I was upset too at the omission of Spies vs Mercs but the co-op was still a great experience. It's one of the few games that I can always go back to and have a fun blast through.
They did that with Chaos Theory and everyone loved it. Because there were clear benefits to stealth. Now it is just shoehorned in to an action game.
Deus Ex does the same thing Chaos Theory did and everyone loves it as well. Hitman Absolution tried to go more action oriented and it failed miserably.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Refreshment.01
Member
Looking good.
So what detractors think now? Better or worse?
So what detractors think now? Better or worse?
I think there's a fair chance it will be, especially with the late release date. Who knows, it might be in development for next-generation consoles already without anyone even knowing. I guess we'll find out in a few months.
legacyzero
Banned
That's an even worse excuse.
No, it wont be on PS5/Durango succesor.
I think it's a little too early to call the PS4 "this gen"
I think it looks like a more complex Conviction which is nice since I enjoyed my time with that game especially the terrorist hunt missions. Looks like Blacklist is continuing on that formula and builds up on it by bringing back mechanics and gears that were the staple of the series.
But personally speaking, this isn't the direction that I want the series to continue on. I would love if they go back to Chaos Theory's emphasis on evasive stealth and open-ended missions that feel like real-world believable locations instead of arbitrary corridors designed entirely upon the idea of dispatching your enemies instead of avoiding them (Sure, you could argue that they're putting more emphasis on the "Ghost" playstyle but the annoyingly forced QTEs and "set-pieces" will always be there).
That being said, I still believe Blacklist will end up being a good but flawed game.
Nice, thanks for answering.
Didn't really like the original Splinter Cells (not saying it's a bad game, just didn't like it myself) but Conviction was really fun to play.
This not so much, but I might rent it for the heck of it.
This not so much, but I might rent it for the heck of it.
Don't ever admit liking SC: Conviction in public if you want to avoid those kind of reactions. Like it secretly.
keltickennedy
Member
Anyone else feel that Ubisoft, PR department is training their guys that do the interviews in a damage control sort of way? "Make sure to say "stealth" and "ghost" a lot." It was also kind of strange how he was saying how everyone is making it a point to make sure that every level could be approached in many different playstyles....then minutes later describing the opening of the game is incredibly action packed.....what?
This has been a problem in all Splinter Cell games. I was playing Chaos Theory the other day and was standing directly in front of an enemy, maybe 2 feet away. Its just that it was semi dark so i was pretty much invisible. Hoping it will be something that can be changed with difficultly settings.
This has been a problem in all Splinter Cell games. I was playing Chaos Theory the other day and was standing directly in front of an enemy, maybe 2 feet away. Its just that it was semi dark so i was pretty much invisible. Hoping it will be something that can be changed with difficultly settings.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
He looks like he's been awake for about six days. Does he even know what's real and what's not anymore?
I'm kinda hyped. Especially because of that mode removing Mark & Execute, the goggles to see through walls etc. but also about Mercs vs. Spies having a return.
I have yet to play through my copies of Double Agent and Conviction though. Having already completed Splinter Cell, Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory.
I think Pandora Tomorrow is my favorite but Chaos Theory were grand and had an absolute perfect singleplayer campaign.
I have yet to play through my copies of Double Agent and Conviction though. Having already completed Splinter Cell, Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory.
I think Pandora Tomorrow is my favorite but Chaos Theory were grand and had an absolute perfect singleplayer campaign.
legacyzero
Banned
Well, it could've been worse.
Just threw up in my mouth.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Well, it could've been worse.
I would have loved to have seen that, honestly. It was an interesting concept. I liked Conviction a lot, but that open-world social stealth game might have been more interesting. I guess they canned it cause it was too similar to Assassin's Creed?
The concept was fine with me. It looks cool. It's just... that hair. It's not Sam. Anyway, it looks like this project has very loosely evolved into Watch Dogs.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I don't mind, Watch_Dogs has some seriously amazing potential. Definitely the most interesting thing out of the last E3, I'm really excited for that.
So, Sam's base is now a plane. Does anyone wanna take bets at what point in the game it'll be shot down and Sam will have to navigate the inside of the plane as it's following and then have to fight off an onslaught of villains at the crash site?
DerZuhälter
Member
I seriously think people are judging Conviction and Blacklist too hard.
I loved Splinter Cell & CT (not a fan of PT though nor DA), but I always wondered why my super stealth ninja with Spec Ops training, was such a turd fighting his way out of any situation as soon as discovered.
Some people even critizised the addition of the knife to CT because "going stabby stabby isn't stealthy! Boo". I love my stealth and love to have the option to go all out Jack Bauer.
Best thing would be some sort of time limits, moving targets and bonus objectives that will have you to combine what ever option you use with speed.
You know perfectly well how to be stealthy and speedy, even better.
Oh yes... and have stealthy movement (climbing and scaling) be slow again to balance this sort of gameplay.
I loved Splinter Cell & CT (not a fan of PT though nor DA), but I always wondered why my super stealth ninja with Spec Ops training, was such a turd fighting his way out of any situation as soon as discovered.
Some people even critizised the addition of the knife to CT because "going stabby stabby isn't stealthy! Boo". I love my stealth and love to have the option to go all out Jack Bauer.
Best thing would be some sort of time limits, moving targets and bonus objectives that will have you to combine what ever option you use with speed.
You know perfectly well how to be stealthy and speedy, even better.
Oh yes... and have stealthy movement (climbing and scaling) be slow again to balance this sort of gameplay.
Is this irony?
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Definition of IRONY
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: a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony
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No. Better luck next time.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Haunted
Member
What are you talking about, it's just Sam Fisher and bad guys and maps, right?
Voice of Reason
Banned
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Am I the only one that's more disturbed by the tearing than the gameplay in that GIF?
Oh, man. Try out the Xbox version, you're missing out. It was developed by the Montréal studio who made Chaos Theory.
BattleMonkey
Member
Showing off stealth game play is boring from a marketing perspective, of course they are mainly going to focus on showing off the cool action scenes.
Both Chaos Theory and Double Agent on the first Xbox.
I loved that. Made staying in the shadows so much more simple compared to staring at a bunch of coloured lights and lines.
AFAIK, yes.
Common sense also works for hiding in the shadows, as opposed to either system, which is really dumb.
Chaos Theory is actually available on Games on Demand for purchase.
keltickennedy
Member
Double Agent xbox is probably right up there with Chaos Theory as the best Splinter Cell in my opinion. Yes, if you are going to play CT play it on PC.
BTW, tried playing Double Agent a PC a few days ago...fuck that is a bad port. Can't get 1080p res and controller support is only for wired controllers. Also the game will get corrupt quick saves and cause the game to crash all the time. The lighting actual looks better on 360 too.
BTW, tried playing Double Agent a PC a few days ago...fuck that is a bad port. Can't get 1080p res and controller support is only for wired controllers. Also the game will get corrupt quick saves and cause the game to crash all the time. The lighting actual looks better on 360 too.
Loved Double Agent. That prison level was awesome.