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New CAPTAIN AMERICA trailer
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Insane Metal said:
Yep, looks like some direct-to-video flick.
Only Red Skull looks good.
H.Cornerstone
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Great music. Great trailer. Getting really excited for this movie.
And any movie with nazi-killing in it has to be good.
And any movie with nazi-killing in it has to be good.
The Outsider
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Uncle said:
CAP EPILOGUE SPOILERS:
film ends with him in modern day Times Square talking to Nick Fury
Talladega Knight
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i do enjoy me some marvel movies, BUT i've enjoyed Superman Returns, Batman Begins, and The Dark Knight more than any Marvel movie I've seen.Tobor said:
DSFan1970 said:
Yeah I know about it, but I don't think that's what he was asking about? Unless I misunderstood and just meant if there'd be another post-credits Avengers tie-in with Cap. In which case, the answer is yes. But as far as a full-fledged trailer goes, that's still about 5-6 months away.
Dacon
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Chamber said:
Yeah, ok I'll give you that. But within the context of their world, and the general mythos of the character Batman is considered to be a normal man who pushed his body and his skills past their limits through training and determination. He still succumbs to much that an average human would.
Captain America is a supersoldier. He is deliberately stated as being enhanced in almost every way. The serum boosted his strength, endurance, and stamina through the roof. Hell the man survived being frozen in a freaking glacier for decades, and came out spic and span. This would have been the end of any normal human, no matter how strong they were or how much they trained. You don't come back from something like that. Hell he can't even get drunk.
He's not just a man at all.
EDIT: He's also highly resilient against mind altering drugs and various toxins if I remember correctly.
PhoncipleBone
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Cap is basically the human body at its utmost potential. Super human, but not superpowered.
Dacon said:
According to Marvel he only has a Strength and Durability rating of 3. Hawkeye is a 2 for both, Black Widow is a 3 in both (same as Cap). Iron Man is rated at a 6 in both stats, Hulk is a 7 in both, and Thor is one of the most powerful being on the planet, if not the entire Marvel Universe. He has lifted over a million tons and when insane struck Beta Ray Bill so hard that it destroyed the planetoid they were on. He fought the entire Frost Giant army without food or rest for 9 months. Thor and Hulk by virtue of pure strength are world's above anyone else in The Avengers cast.
Spike Spiegel
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Cap: peak human conditioning attained via Super-Soldier Serum, made possible by comic super-science.
Bats: peak human conditioning attained via years of rigorous training and discipline, made possible by billions in personal wealth.
Both are on pretty equal footing, though the means of attaining that footing differ.
Bats: peak human conditioning attained via years of rigorous training and discipline, made possible by billions in personal wealth.
Both are on pretty equal footing, though the means of attaining that footing differ.
Dacon
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PhoncipleBone said:
Yeah, I doubt a human even at his greatest potential could survive being frozen underwater for so long and come out relatively undamaged. Cap goes well beyond peak human conditioning. That's why he's explicitly stated as being superhuman.
Seth C said:
Where are those stats coming from? Marvel doesn't seem to go by them when it comes to Cap. He's deliberately depicted as being OP compared to any other human.
Also, I won't argue that Thor and Hulk are in a league of their own. Thor smacked down Galactus ffs.
TheKaeptain
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Solo giving Nolan credit...Solo said:
WTF?
Discotheque
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CaptYamato said:
are you forreal? That guy's been repping Begins for as long as I can remember in my relatively short time on this forum. It's probably his second favorite comic book moovie after spiderman2 .
Dacon
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Chamber said:
Yeah I know Batman would've prepared secret thermal heating pads in his suit to melt the ice and keep his body warm while the ice thawed or some shit. The man has insane foresight. I will agree that he does some superhuman shit, much to the chagrin of many fans. I guess it's mostly to make him comparable with the rest of the DCU.
I'm not saying Cap is some superpowered freak like most of Marvel's characters. I'm just saying he's clearly beyond just being some guy on roids.
TheKaeptain
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Do we have to bring up the Inception thread?Discotheque said:
And SM 2 sucks.
CaptYamato said:
Give credit where its due. Man can't shoot an action scene to save his life, his writing leaves a lot to be desired and I have a ton of issues with TDK, but he has crafted two superhero movies that are, aside from Spider-Man 2 and X2, a clear cut above the rest of the genre. Theres those 4 films, and then there is everything else.
PhoncipleBone
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Spike Spiegel said:
Exactly the point. Both are the pinnacle of what the human body can achieve. Rogers just got there faster (and the only way he could).
Solo said:
Even X2 is "everything else?"
Spider Man 2 is still the best super hero movie ever.
Dacon
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PhoncipleBone said:
Rogers goes beyond the pinnacle of what the human body can achieve physically. No man can withstand being frozen in a glacier and trapped in well below zero temperatures for decades.
No can he survive a blow from the goddamn incredible hulk, and still hold his footing, shield or not.
I'll agree that Cap isn't superpowered, but he's well beyond the pinnacle of what a human can achieve no matter the training or conditioning. The dude can't get drunk, has an insane resistance to toxins most people couldn't handle, and he can juggle several strenuous tasks at once without ever even breaking a sweat.
EDIT: I have to agree about X2. It's really not that great. It's yet another severe under utilization of the X-Men and their powers.
Discotheque
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Chamber said:
It's nowhere near as clear cut as Nolan would like it to be. I appreciate the different tone he added to comic book films but his aren't automatically greater than all of the rest. I'd put up Spiderman 2, X2, Punisher Warzone and Blade 1 (yes I'm not joking about the latter two at all) with them. Oh damn and also Burton's first batman
This is a weird comparison but it's like people praising Silence of the Lambs and shitting on stuff like Evil Dead and Argento films by not acknowledging them as great horror.
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