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Very interesting. It seems the changes over the 21UX are minimal aside from the obvious widescreen and colour gamut.
I use my 21UX every day and I couldn't survive without it. This has come too soon though!
I'm not sure if I want to sell this and buy a 24HD for the minimal extras. I do rotate the 21UX quite a lot too so losing that would be a pain.
On the other hand, the new ergo stand is awesome. I'm always trying to find the sweet spot when doing long hauls.
I use my 21UX every day and I couldn't survive without it. This has come too soon though!
I'm not sure if I want to sell this and buy a 24HD for the minimal extras. I do rotate the 21UX quite a lot too so losing that would be a pain.
On the other hand, the new ergo stand is awesome. I'm always trying to find the sweet spot when doing long hauls.
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reilo said:
It's amazing those things have been around for over a decade and you still need to plug it to a computer. Get with the times, Wacom.
FStop7 said:
For the price of $2500, it also comes with a special medication injection needle which, when injected into your cornea, mutates your genetics to improve hand stability and artistic vision, dramatically increasing ones skill set by an order of magnitude. It's worth it, trust me. Hurts like hell though and you'll go blind for a week while the mutation takes hold.
Betta Lines
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For the same reason the iMac exists. Because they can, and it's just more elegant.
WordAssassin
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But imagine the cost. Wacom charges $2500 for just a pressure-sensitive screen. Can you imagine the rape they would lay upon your wallet if there was the rest of the computer in there? You can get a painfully powerful 27-inch iMac for $500 less than what Wacom charges for just the screen. And a 3-inch smaller one that screws up the colors, at that.Pazuzu9 said:
(Not trying to say I don't want a Cintiq like, so fucking bad I can feel it, but goddamn tech companies, please get your shit together and give Wacom some competition)
It's nice if you're using it as your primary monitor.
But if you use it as a secondary monitor, the 21UX is the better option.
Indeed, the 21UX has a better aspect ratio for this kind of work and is very importantly, something that can be rotated and spun around easily.
This thing is like a lumbering giant next to the 21UX.
But if you use it as a secondary monitor, the 21UX is the better option.
Indeed, the 21UX has a better aspect ratio for this kind of work and is very importantly, something that can be rotated and spun around easily.
This thing is like a lumbering giant next to the 21UX.
I had another think about it and yeah, I can't imagine not being able to rotate the Cintiq. I tried to do it just now and it was really unusual.
I constantly rotate my screen as a habit but even with paper and pencil, if I can't move it, it feels like it has a negative effect on what I'm doing
I constantly rotate my screen as a habit but even with paper and pencil, if I can't move it, it feels like it has a negative effect on what I'm doing
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Slavik81 said:
Because it costs 2500 for a freaking monitor? It takes space? The possibility of an all-in-one computer solution is not silly? And the smaller Cintiq models are 'portable' yet are not really because always tethered to some computer?
If you can't see the benefit of having a true sketching/coloring pad, be it paper or electronic, than I don't know what to tell you. I think the Asus EEE Slate EP121 (Windows Tablet with Wacom digitalizer built-in), far from a perfect device, but makes a lot more sense to me.
WordAssassin
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Some of us prefer the control offered by actually looking at what we are drawing and where we are placing the pen.
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[History Note: My first tablet was an Acer TravelMate with a 14-inch screen. Eventually the hinge broke and I was tablet-less for a few years, until I found an HP TC1100. It's slow as fuck, the screen is barely 10-inches, and it's so low-rez that I get eye-strain if I use it for too long at a time. But goddamn it, nobody fucking makes tablet PCs anymore so I take what I can get. I love you Apple and I love my iPad but fuck you for taking the focus of tablets away from art.)
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Just looked that up, OH MY GOD. I want that. I wish the screen was bigger but goddamn. $1300 for a 12-inch tablet with a wacom screen. That is almost perfect. Time to start saving.Instigator said:
[History Note: My first tablet was an Acer TravelMate with a 14-inch screen. Eventually the hinge broke and I was tablet-less for a few years, until I found an HP TC1100. It's slow as fuck, the screen is barely 10-inches, and it's so low-rez that I get eye-strain if I use it for too long at a time. But goddamn it, nobody fucking makes tablet PCs anymore so I take what I can get. I love you Apple and I love my iPad but fuck you for taking the focus of tablets away from art.)
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought graphics workstations were pretty high-end, expensive machines. Maybe a couple thousand dollars for something of the same calibre as the tablet that goes with it.Instigator said:
Do tablets have the same upgrade life-cycle as the PC hardware they'd be attached to? If a PC lasts 4 years and a tablet lasts 8, for instance, you'd be wasting several thousand dollars by bundling them together.
I honestly don't know much about this. Hence why I'm asking.
is it weird drawing on a screen?
Even though I hate (though I'm getting better at dealing with it) the disconnect between drawing on the Intous and your results showing up on your computer, I do like how the Intuous surface actually feels somewhat like paper.
or is this just something you totally forget about and it feels like second nature after using it for a bit?
I do character design in Photoshop and would love a Cintiq for this.
and the Cintiq doesn't JUST have to be used as a drawing device, right? It's really just another monitor, so when I'm not actually doing any kind of design stuff, I could still have it plugged in and act as a secondary monitor?
Even though I hate (though I'm getting better at dealing with it) the disconnect between drawing on the Intous and your results showing up on your computer, I do like how the Intuous surface actually feels somewhat like paper.
or is this just something you totally forget about and it feels like second nature after using it for a bit?
I do character design in Photoshop and would love a Cintiq for this.
and the Cintiq doesn't JUST have to be used as a drawing device, right? It's really just another monitor, so when I'm not actually doing any kind of design stuff, I could still have it plugged in and act as a secondary monitor?
But there's still no sequel to the Cintiq 12WX right?
Then I still feel justified with my purchase 3 years ago xD
I believe they have patented pen technology, where it works magnetically with no batteries or cords necessary.
Then I still feel justified with my purchase 3 years ago xD
I believe they have patented pen technology, where it works magnetically with no batteries or cords necessary.
Mhmmmm. Same here.
A friend of mine has the old Cintiq. It's fucking massive. Too big, plus I don't like DVI.
and OH, anyone have some good videos of pros using a Cintiq? I would be very interested in seeing some professional workflows of artists working on cartoons/animation w/ a Cintiq...
seems to be some lag between input and the brush stroke showing up on screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95GvRH_e38s
is this totally dependant on how fast your computer is?
seems to be some lag between input and the brush stroke showing up on screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95GvRH_e38s
is this totally dependant on how fast your computer is?
I do it for character design too sometimes and it's become second nature. It's different from paper, but not worse, just different. I use it as another monitor all the time too. It's pretty great (and super expensive)
Yeah it's dependent on your computer. There's no lag usually unless your computer sucks, or you're working with a huge photoshop file.
Naked Snake
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*drool*
I'm with Shog though, I think I'd be more productive/creative with a tablet PC, was close to ordering last year's Lenovo one (X220t was it?), but it kept getting delayed and I ended up with a new desktop and 2X LG W2420Rs.
Stil would love a perfect tablet PC one day.
I'm with Shog though, I think I'd be more productive/creative with a tablet PC, was close to ordering last year's Lenovo one (X220t was it?), but it kept getting delayed and I ended up with a new desktop and 2X LG W2420Rs.
Stil would love a perfect tablet PC one day.
Thanks for the responses Divvy.
Didn't even realize the Intous 5 was just announced:
http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Intuos.aspx
Didn't even realize the Intous 5 was just announced:
http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Intuos.aspx
Lactose_Intolerant
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In that video the guy is using a laptop, so you might be on to something. I only have a tablet, so I can't really tell you.
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