First Name
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It's removing the human element. It's a very significant change story-wise. It removes the personal motivation for Dante's protectiveness for humanity.lowhighkang_LHK said:
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New DmC: Devil May Cry gameplay [Dante Redesigned Again]
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Fine Ham Abounds
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ShockingAlberto said:
Yeah, pretty much. If this ends up as the box art, I'll finally get those people who are too embarrassed by certain box art to buy some games in person.
Good thing I'll likely never come within 50' of a copy of this game unless somehow all the stars that are aligning to make this one of the most unappealing games this generation get transported to opposite sides of the universe.
lowhighkang_LHK
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Amir0x said:
As dali pointed out, its the gun fingers to the angels head that would probably cause the biggest issue with the esrb.
hey_it's_that_dog
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lowhighkang_LHK said:
That combined with the suggestive placement of her head is what clearly pushes this over the top in terms of mainstream acceptability. As demonstrated by DOA Volleyball, merely showing near naked women isn't necessarily a problem. However, if the DOA girls were in lingerie instead of swimwear, I think it would be perceived differently, as irrational as that may be.
lowhighkang_LHK
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First Name said:
Also, there is a possibility that eva being an angel is what dante assumes. And him learning that Eva was actually human through the course of the game is what changes him from a guy who gives two shits about humans, into somebody who then makes it his lifes work, literally. Bottom line is that ninja theory likes to throw in false pretenses, what starts off one way wont end up that way. Capcom might be up front with their near non existent stories, but iltimately we just dont know, especially with this game.
thebaroness
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The real meat of the problem doesn't steam from the aesthetics in the slightest. Although I'm still not a fan of this new Dante look, that's not what bothers me about this game. The real core of a Devil May Cry game it fast, fast, fast action and this game just isn't going to deliver on it. I hope it's sales are dismal so we can get a true sequel with some more DMC3 worthy combat and another epic Dante/ Vergil fight.
lowhighkang_LHK
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TruePrime said:
Its the same shit as neros devil bringer. WHICH WAS AWESOME and im glad they are using that mechanic for DmC.
lowhighkang_LHK
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thebaroness said:
LOL, if this games sales are dismal there wont be another devil may cry. This game has been in production for years and the release date is god kows when, capcom is sinking a lot of money in this project.
Ninja theory wont be doing dmc games all the time. They arent owned by capcom. What would happen, is if this game is a success, and the dmc team is done fucking around with that will be bomba game called dragons dogma, thetll go back to the dmc series. Implement some of the elements they liked in ninja theories dmc, and go forward with that.
First Name
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I think this is accurate. It would make the most sense, regardless.Amir0x said:
lowhighkang_LHK
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Amir0x said:
Well, dmc4 was a critical and commercial succes. Yet we are where we are, right?
Obviously, some exec at capcoms osaka offices is giving devil may cry some hail mary chance. Its odd to begin with to be honest.
lowhighkang_LHK said:
It's because Capcom has been a miserable mess of mismanagement this gen, and they actually think they can make an action game that is as relevant as God of War is these days.
Devil May Cry 3 would always hold the gameplay crown - Bayonetta is damn close though - and they should be focusing on continuing that legacy. DMC4 had amazing gameplay, its problem was the repetitious second half. If they made DMC5 with the same amazing gameplay, only without a repetitious second half, it would be one of the greatest games all gen.
Like you said, it is odd. I don't understand it and never fully will. They willing to risk all the fans they got on a developer that has done nothing but bad action games. But, we'll see if it pays off. My hunch says, it won't.
Jocchan said:
That's true enough. Maybe afterwards they'll try to reboot DMC into something more like DMC.
After Dragon's Dogma tanks and they lose all that time and money they are going to wish they had 2.6 million in sales from another DmC.lowhighkang_LHK said:
Seriouly changing it up and hoping it will suddenly jump to 5 million was truly crazy, even more so when they handed it to Ninja Thoery of all people.
SkylineRKR
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Capcom won't discard this IP if this outsourced project bombs. Its still too big for that. Raccoon City is going to bomb as well (we can safely assume, right?) and RE won't stop existing either. But the 5 million target thing for this DmC is insane, it would need to outsell every fucking DMC out there?
I would be overjoyed if Capcom would have the balls to hire Platinum for a next DMC. Sure a new Bayo would make sense but bar the gameplay (which are both good, but different) I like everything of DMC better. Kamiya working on a new DMC would be awesomesauce.
I would be overjoyed if Capcom would have the balls to hire Platinum for a next DMC. Sure a new Bayo would make sense but bar the gameplay (which are both good, but different) I like everything of DMC better. Kamiya working on a new DMC would be awesomesauce.
lowhighkang_LHK said:
Trying scare tactics now?
Well if everyone is going doom and gloom. I'm more concerned about the game doing well and Capcom reevaluating whether 60fps is really necessary for fighting games.
Got to give DmC credit though, very rarely does the lose, lose situation pop up. Either DMC goes Dino Crisis 3'ed or 60fps goes pixel art.
SkylineRKR said:
Raccoon City does not exist. Only REvelations.
Capcom really does need to collaborate with Platinum though.
EDIT: I dont see why dmc has to be 30 fps in the first place. It's not like its really pushing either system graphically. And its not a case of Unreal Engine 3, since there are UE3 console games that look pretty nice any run at 60 (Mortal Kombat...a fighting game, but still).
First Name
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Teknoman said:
Engine and developer limitations.
lowhighkang_LHK
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sleepykyo said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Obviously, in some way that can't be understood, capcom didn't want to do another dmc, despite dmc4 selling almost 3 million units. What gives you the inclination theyd want to take the series back if DmC doesnt do well? If they wouldnt even take the series after dmc4's success?
With how quickly capco. Seemingly tosses franchises to the sides, ie dino crisis, megaman, onimusha - again, i say if this game doesnt do well its probabaly it for the dmc series.
KittenMaster
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Doesn't look completely offensive now. This game is probably gonna succeed now.
Acquiescence
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Seik said:
Judging by the expression on ol' Dante's face there, something definitely went in the wrong way.
None of these are at all the same senario as DMC4.lowhighkang_LHK said:
Rock has never had a game sell over two million copies including Battle Networks combined, it's even less like DMC when everything since .EXE doesn't even sell good, it sells like total shit.
Onimusha, while a great series tappered off.
Dino Crisis they didn't just throw away, Dino Crisis 2 didn't do as well as one and then you have DC III, I don't think anyone should have to even go there.
Capcom thus far has never just thrown out a series that continues to perform. Neither would DmC the first time they tried something new and not had it perform up to standards yet go back to another style.
distortedimagery
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Love the art work!
Has anybody else considered that the top angel is Eva?
This angel is over Dino, looking at him with love and affection, she also takes up most of the artwork and appears a lot more majestic than the ones on the floor. Her wings are bigger as well as the dress which seems to be covering up Dino, wrapping him up like a mother would.
The other angels have smaller and quite a scruffy feel to them, they are clawing and pawing away at Dino, trying to tempt him?
Could they be Demons in Disguise?
Are they trying to tempt him to another side?
Everyone is crying out and bitching about this art work, but has anyone actually really looked at it, tried to fathom out the message?
The club scene here reminds me of the ending of the first Devil Man Anime. Where Akira and Ryo goto an underground club in Ryo's house, use the Sabbath to call upon demons. As Music, Alcohol and sex draw in demons.... Could this be a take on the image?!
Disregarding all that, game still looks shit and oversaturated like the rest of NT's crap
Has anybody else considered that the top angel is Eva?
This angel is over Dino, looking at him with love and affection, she also takes up most of the artwork and appears a lot more majestic than the ones on the floor. Her wings are bigger as well as the dress which seems to be covering up Dino, wrapping him up like a mother would.
The other angels have smaller and quite a scruffy feel to them, they are clawing and pawing away at Dino, trying to tempt him?
Could they be Demons in Disguise?
Are they trying to tempt him to another side?
Everyone is crying out and bitching about this art work, but has anyone actually really looked at it, tried to fathom out the message?
The club scene here reminds me of the ending of the first Devil Man Anime. Where Akira and Ryo goto an underground club in Ryo's house, use the Sabbath to call upon demons. As Music, Alcohol and sex draw in demons.... Could this be a take on the image?!
Disregarding all that, game still looks shit and oversaturated like the rest of NT's crap
RustyNails
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I like the new Dante
we.are.the.armada
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Hmmm, I like this new Dante more than that junky looking Dante from before. I also think this new guy's face kind of looks like the actor that played Anakin in the new Star Wars movies.
It looks like Dante got a little bit of his swagger back. At least they tweaked something in the right direction. I wonder why the decision to change him was made, and if that Tameem Antoniades guy fought against it, or what happened.
However, the combat animations look really stiff, and the framerate is nasty. The action also looks way more button-mashy, like God of War. I'm surprised we didn't see QTEs. Overall, it looks like a game trying to play like Devil May Cry, but not having any of the talent behind what made the DMC gameplay good. No surprise there.
However, the combat animations look really stiff, and the framerate is nasty. The action also looks way more button-mashy, like God of War. I'm surprised we didn't see QTEs. Overall, it looks like a game trying to play like Devil May Cry, but not having any of the talent behind what made the DMC gameplay good. No surprise there.
Acquiescence
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RustyNails said:
Yeah same here. The first design where he recalled the lead singer of My Chemical Romance was disastrous, but I like what's been done with him now. Hopefully the remodelling is done and they'll leave him well enough alone now.