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Mister_Bubbles
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I just went to see if I could remember my old Bioware Social login and upon logging in was greeted with a picture of my Warden! Man, I hope they can recreate this majestic son of a bitch in DA:I
He's the guy responsible for "emotional engagement » gameplay" maxim that has taken over bioware, where every npc needs to be screwable, where every hero is a Mary Sue and the world needs saving from the LGBT haters...
Admiral Woofington
Member
Out of the companions revealed so far I'm not a 100% who I'm going to go for. In DAO and DA2 I knew from the beginning who my character would turn into an LI. In the cast of DAO I had two, DA2 I had just 1. Hopefully there's more females added to the party since as of right now there's way more males
N7Commander95
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He's the guy responsible for "emotional engagement » gameplay" maxim that has taken over bioware, where every npc needs to be screwable, where every hero is a Mary Sue and the world needs saving from the LGBT haters...
Such bullshit on your part.
Da2 was nothing like that, don't be stupid
that doesn't explain Aveline or Samara...
N7Commander95
Member
don't use logic.
Oh please do defend DA2... pinnacle that it is of well written plot and characters, i wont even go down the gameplay part, as i dont think anyone in their right mind is capable of defending that.
Show me where Gaider was responsible for gameplay decisions? He's the head writer. It's Laidlaw that makes gameplay decisions.
So hes responsible for this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbbGX4Wz0Y
DA2's writing was a step back even for Bioware's current standards.
N7Commander95
Member
No where was I implying Dragon Age 2 was a pinnacle of anything. It's story is disjointed and is poorly paced. But your criticism is stupid and outright wrong.
Firstly, in the game there a 4 'sexual partners', same as Origins. Except there is one celibate romance. The only difference is that gay players now have two choices instead of one. OH NOES THE GAYS HAVE OPTIONS
To be honest, in an grand-scale RPG like origins or 2, hell even the wither or Baldurs Gate. Character engagements damn important.
We need more writers like Gaider, writers who aren't afraid to cater to something other than white males.
Also Hawke is in no way a Mary Sue, who the hell in Dragon Age is? Seriously
I wasn't asking about the writing, I was asking about the insinuation you made that he had effects on the gameplay.
Also I'll admit I'm as guilty of this as anybody, but for the most part let's avoid littering this thread with critiques of Dragon Age 2.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
That's some serious sausage partying going on if the last two companions are dudes.
Looks real nice. I won't be playing DA2, but maybe I should finish Awakenings. Of course, because of the import issues in DA:O->DA:O:Awakenings if (DA:O spoilers)
, I'll probably just import my main game save and hope they handle it a bit better in DA3.
I hope the combat is closer to DA:O at least if you play a caster, but I probably shouldn't hold my breath.
the Warden dies
I hope the combat is closer to DA:O at least if you play a caster, but I probably shouldn't hold my breath.
anexanhume
Member
I haven't seen anything. I don't know if it is NDA'ed either.
Yeah, plus less party variety for me since I like to run a tank my first playthrough.
I just went to see if I could remember my old Bioware Social login and upon logging in was greeted with a picture of my Warden! Man, I hope they can recreate this majestic son of a bitch in DA:I
If not, there's always The Order 1886.
No we dont need more people like Gaider in the genre, we need more people like Iron Tower and Age of Decadence, more people like stygian and underrail, or larian and divinity original sin.
There are people responsible for great rpg's out there, with amazing gameplay and unnecessary pandering to romances and "emotional engagement" that does get in the way of gameplay.
Of course, everyone has different tastes, but that only goes so far, and you just need to go into the Bioware forums to see what kind of tastes Bioware is pandering to, the Tali fanfic group alone is mind boggling, so yes... i do think Gaider hasn't brought anything of worth into the genre and his meddling in the writing of bioware's game's has been a source of embarrassment realy.
LurkerPrime
Member
You should play Dragon Age 2, then you'll come to appreciate the rich lore and fiction behind Kirkwall and the Hawke/Inquisition/Mage conflict. ;p
With the history of game-to-game continuity in the Dragon Age franchise, definitely do not get your hopes up for proper save imports. Though I suppose there is a fibre of hope, since the Dragon Age Keep thingamabob may help imported saves function properly this time.
DAK is not a facebook or mobile game is it? That would be unfortunate.
N7Commander95
Member
Dragon Age Keep is a web or app that allows you to effectively create a world state for Dragon Age Inquisition. Basically ticking boxes for what happened in Dragon Age Origins and Dragon Age 2. Then this gets imported into the DAI campaign.
anexanhume
Member
DA is a series tailored for mass market appeal that absolutely panders to its fanbase. A lot of the features in DA:I are in direct response to DA:O and DA2 feedback. Moreover, they clearly want the Skyrim audience (damn thing sold 20 million). They want people who aren't RPG people to play it.
They do sacrifice some things by trying to please everyone and be inclusive as possible. I'll probably love DA:I for what it is and love PoE for other reasons, and Witcher 3 for yet different reasons. I like choices and variety in the same genre.
LurkerPrime
Member
Oh so it really is just a save game editor with a GUI? Weird, but like I said hopefully they can actually import our save into the game now.
Thanks for the info.
jim2point0
Banned
I don't even see what would need to be downgraded. There's not a lot going on visually that's mindblowing. Witcher 3 looks leagues above this and even that seems doable (aka I don't expect downgrades).
anexanhume
Member
I doubt it is that simple. Why would there be a beta for what amounts to a surveymonkey web URL?
You acknowledge that people have different tastes, but then insinuate that DA fans have incorrect tastes. I can understand attacking it if there's nothing else out there, but you named six games that fit your particular tastes. Why not just decide that the Dragon Age series isn't for you, and move on? It's just one series.
I'm also sorry that you don't feel that Baldur's Gate 2 brought anything of worth to the genre.
Agreed with your closing.
I consider myself an RPG guy and that is why I love all kinds. I love digging deep with games like Dark Souls, but then I also love kicking back with games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and hell... even Fable for it's whimsical 'feel good' vibe. They are all different games that I enjoy for different reasons.
There is no rule book stating that one can't enjoy RPGs across the spectrum and I really can't stand it when people try to enforce some arbitrary dividing line, while declaring how pure and hardcore they are for staunchly staying on one side of the fence that they created. In the end, they are all just games and I enjoy different ones for different reasons. Be it hard as nails and deep as the sea, or 'casul' strolls that you are meant to kick back and relax with.
Did not even think of that. Definitely worth thinking about. With that in mind I'd like to see Dorian the Tevinter Magister and then some new Archer lady, since Sera seems to default as a duel wielder, be the final two companions of the 9 official with then Cole as a DLC character, since he's interesting especially for those who have read Asunder.
We finally managed to get a higher quality version of that trailer, sorry it took so long...
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_dragon_age_trailer-15132_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_dragon_age_trailer-15132_en.html
Cool stuff! Downloading now.
NemesisPrime
Banned
After DA2 and *puke* ME3, I will adopt a wait and see attitude.
Wow looks great.
This will be my first foray into the dragon age franchise and I can't wait =D
Crappy ending as ME3 was, I still think it was an amazing game. I got so much fun out of it
This will be my first foray into the dragon age franchise and I can't wait =D
Crappy ending as ME3 was, I still think it was an amazing game. I got so much fun out of it
HypocrisyGalore
Banned
That was actually one of the specific things they mentioned should be fixed by the Keep.
Jon Armdog
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I did earlier in this thread. Actually, several people did.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
He's the guy responsible for "emotional engagement » gameplay" maxim that has taken over bioware, where every npc needs to be screwable, where every hero is a Mary Sue and the world needs saving from the LGBT haters...
I didn't realize the mere existence of homosexual characters was a clever ploy to indoctrinate people into loving the gays.
Why is there a need to exist gay characters at all? or even romances? Is every other person in your group a friends gay or a prospective romance if you reach a certain number of dialogue checks?
It diverts resources that could have been better spent making the main game plot more coherent.
Take Dragon Age 2, with all the the time they spent with voice overs, animations, writing and producing straight and gay characters.
Did those awkward moments ingame really bring anything to the game? or could the time have been spent producing more areas and more details into the game world that would have made Dragon Age 2 evolve into something other than a corridor action rpg where the player was forced to fight enemies that appeared from thin air for no reason in the same cave map time and again.
Bioware seems to think emotional engagement = ingame romanceable characters, and spend a lot of time trying to craft their games around those types of characters with mediocre results. These relationships play out with no resemblance to real world relationships, and flawed at their core bringing no added value to the game.
I do think Gaider has not a shred of writing talent and is easily outdone even by part time amateurs like the people behind Age of Decadence in terms of world building, story, character motivations and dialogue.
But hey, if people think Dragon Age 2 has redeeming qualities and Mass Effect 3 was awesome, then more power to you and i hope you get to enjoy Bioware games for years to come.
People like playing games that reflect who they are. Bioware is attempting to include an audience that is normally not included. In addition, there is clearly an audience that enjoys the romantic plots. Clearly that doesn't include you.
I think you just need to accept that the Dragon Age series isn't for you. Go enjoy games such as Age of Decadence. Why spend time railing against a game that isn't going to change to conform to what you like?
Clarkus Darkus
Member
Agreed.
Because us LGBT gamers like to have characters that we can identify with? Because having characters with varied backgrounds makes stories more interesting? lol, I agree that the romances can be very cliche or poorly written, but there's plenty of good reasons to just have a gay character or two in the plot.
What are you even basing this assumption on? You really think that we'd have gotten more levels if there were less romances or gay characters?
Portugeezer
Member
But ME2 was so good, never forget. (ME3 was okay except for shit ending) And DAI actually looks like it has potential.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Witcher 3 looks better imo, ill keep an eye on the game and see if it fails lr not.
anexanhume
Member
He got straight up snippy with me yesterday on twitter when I asked about the tone of the character bios. Probably tired of dealing with demanding fans.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Wonderful visuals and I like the look of the game world, but it will be the gameplay which convinces me the game is worthwhile. Visually, this looks heavily inspired by Skyrim.
Nemesis_
Member
Well technically you have to code in new pairings as well as record new dialogue (which could also be notably expensive). Especially with a game like Dragon Age where each character might have several lines of dialogue tailored to a specific situation and even then each of these lines could easily branch off into other lines.
I doubt that cost of these things would be high enough to act as an opportunity cost to put new areas or whatever in the game. So I guess it's a moot point really.
I do agree that perhaps the removal of romancing could perhaps open the way for some more content of some sort but I am not that bothered by any of it so I don't care regardless. >_>