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New Halo 4 Gameplay
- Thread starter Conor 419
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This..i would even say it looks like a console to pc port on a pc with the visuals cleaned up via pc graphics gpu...looks amazing for a multiplayer game on the 360.
Yeah, if you're blind.
don't let em win
les papillons sexuels
Banned
my biggest problem with the new art direction is all the lensflare ala masseffect and killzone.
It kinda works because it's a space-opera, and you're in a visor(but then I think they should add water and fog and embrace the entire concept), but it's really getting out of hand and becoming needless clutter. I want a return to clean and crisp art direction that promotes gameplay and not "cinematic" experiences. I really hope art directors next generation learn what the term "edit" and "refine" mean.
It kinda works because it's a space-opera, and you're in a visor(but then I think they should add water and fog and embrace the entire concept), but it's really getting out of hand and becoming needless clutter. I want a return to clean and crisp art direction that promotes gameplay and not "cinematic" experiences. I really hope art directors next generation learn what the term "edit" and "refine" mean.
Pretty sure it's around 7 feet, because he's a super-dude with armor and stuff on as well.
Those who majored in pixel counting, obviously.
TUROK
Member
I do. Not sure why it bothers people, though.
No it's not. Most FPS players never look up. By putting the crosshairs below the horizon, Bungie ingeniously gains more screen real estate in space above the horizon. As a result, players tend to be more aware of movement on the Z axis.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Me neither, I never cared about it in any game.
Yeah I'm sure that's one of the few reasons why they have the reticle in it's current position, especially since Halo has a good amount of vertical gameplay.
However are you trying to tell me that it doesn't look like they are trying to simulate the perspective from wearing a helmet even with the outlines of the helmet indicating so? That and I could have sworn I read/heard someone from bungie mention this way back in the Halo 2 days. Could be wrong on that one though.
No, I'm saying that the placement of the crosshairs below the horizon is not an attempt to simulate seeing from inside a helmet. The HUD frame is obviously an attempt to communicate the helmet, however.
dragonelite
Member
that a good thing the style looks the same. IT would be disaster if the graphics are the same
Have you ever worn a helmet? It does cut off the lower portion of your viewing angle. At least it did for me when playing paintball and wearing a motorcycle helmet.
If not, then why does the crosshair return to the center when you're in 3rd person mode and no longer viewing the world through a helmet?
Because in third person mode your situational awareness on X,Y, and Z is increased to such an extent that it's not needed.
Agreed, that makes sense. So you think it has nothing to do with the fact that he's wearing a helmet, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree unless you work for 343 and this is some official statement.
I don't work for 343, but I'm an FPS designer.
They've mentioned it's because this way most of your screen won't be floor
Buttonbasher
Member
There's in-universe explanations for it, sure, but gameplay comes first. They wouldn't design the game around "Well he's wearing a helmet, so we should put this down here". The notion of most shooter players not looking up is pretty spot on.
This too.
I see, cool. So I have to ask, why don't more shooters do this?
I already acknowledged this to be one of the reasons.
Edit:
No I agree, the gameplay implications come first and foremost. Like you mentioned, I just see a convenient, in-universe, association as well. That's all I'm saying.
Messofanego
Banned
Is this what you guys are doing with Bioshock Infinite too, since it's also going to be around vertical gameplay?
les papillons sexuels
Banned
the xhair is lower because they found that the multiplayer was a lot more vertical then in most other shooters, the high jump heights and the boost pads from halo 2 meant more acction was occuring abover the players line of sight, to compensate they lower the crosshair, this means that the field of view is higher.
Isn't it just because people are more likely to say jump from above into your view than pop up out of the floor.
I'd never ever noticed it wasn't in the centre of the screen before, I wonder if this is why I aim downwards a little (friends have told me this when they've watched me play)
I'd never ever noticed it wasn't in the centre of the screen before, I wonder if this is why I aim downwards a little (friends have told me this when they've watched me play)
Always-honest
Banned
For some reason, this game looks like it could take place in the Halo universe.
This thread is amazing.
"looks just like halo 3"
"No. It looks EXTREMELY more impressive than Halo 3, look at these screenshot comparisons"
"oh, my fault, i meant art style. the art style looks just like halo 3"
"No. The art style is completely different actually. It is in a completely new setting."
"yeah, well, uh, hrm, shit looks meh.
"Bye"
"looks just like halo 3"
"No. It looks EXTREMELY more impressive than Halo 3, look at these screenshot comparisons"
"oh, my fault, i meant art style. the art style looks just like halo 3"
"No. The art style is completely different actually. It is in a completely new setting."
"yeah, well, uh, hrm, shit looks meh.
"Bye"
SomeOneInaHat
Member
343 should be ashamed, they are making Halo 4 look so good that haters got problems with hating it.
In fairness, I'd always interpret 'Looks like Halo 3!' as a positive comment, opposed to 'Looks just like Halo 3' or 'Looks like Halo 3'.
On another note, the maps are strange. Some times Wraparound looks incredible, some times it looks really grey. As for Warehouse, that has a similar issue, it looks kinda bland on the inside, yet the opening in the middle where you can see the stars is pretty great.
On another note, the maps are strange. Some times Wraparound looks incredible, some times it looks really grey. As for Warehouse, that has a similar issue, it looks kinda bland on the inside, yet the opening in the middle where you can see the stars is pretty great.
Halo 4 world premiere on Spike tv on June 4th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7xLYRkF4bw&list=PL6EF50AD9605D43CE&index=1&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7xLYRkF4bw&list=PL6EF50AD9605D43CE&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Coolbgdog12
Member
when people say it looks like halo 3 we aren't speaking literally. It's like it has that Halo 3-ish look to it where as it doesn't look like Reach. It's hard to explain. It seems more like the true successor to Halo 3 where Reach looked a bit different despite it still being halo.
No, these people were clearly trolling. If Halo 4 didn't look so good, I doubt we would have as much trolling.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Move faster, time!
343 clearly has technical prowess and "epic" art". I'd like to see a return to the massive moving environmental structures from Halo 2. They had a special name for them they mentioned the making of DVD that I forget, but the sense of scale was amazing.
The I.Q. bump alone should blow Halo 3 away. (I haven't played reach so I can't compare it to that) It had great lighting, motion blur and some impressive vistas but the jaggies ruined it for me. I haven't been this pumped for a Halo game in a long time.
The I.Q. bump alone should blow Halo 3 away. (I haven't played reach so I can't compare it to that) It had great lighting, motion blur and some impressive vistas but the jaggies ruined it for me. I haven't been this pumped for a Halo game in a long time.
Vire
Member
So a day before E3 aye?
Hypertrooper
Member
On June 4 is the Microsoft Media Briefing *cough*
Syphon Filter
Member
It will be at the MS press conference which is June 4.
maybe they have an extended demo after the pc.
This is pretty much nothing exclusive. This is PR talk for "we are streaming the Xbox E3 Press Conference." Which we know already.
The reverse is also true. If you are jumping down on an area from above, you won't be able to see below you. It would take away some of the inherent advantage of attacking from above.
If true, this is all reminiscent of pre-mouselook days. And to me it doesn't stand for a change that aids traditional Halo combat, more of a change toward CoD-like levels. Less verticality, less options.
EDIT: Too lazy to post a side-by-side, but at first glance I thought the Halo4 reticule was even lower than Reach. But it's the same as Halo3 and up. Halo 2 is a little higher. Halo1, obviously was in the center.
Kibbles
Member
Well of course, that's the press conference lol (LTTP)
I hope I don't work that day. *checks schedule* FUCK YEAH!