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[Jirotrom]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/uncanny-valley/so-long-uncanny-valley-238805.php

this beats uncanny valley.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/uncanny-valley/so-long-uncanny-valley-238805.php

this beats uncanny valley.

In a still, sure. It's the motion bit that is tricky.

 

[Dante]

I like adventure games. I have a copy of Fahrenheit. But it's not a mainstream genre anymore, and the way to make it one again is not to hype up the graphics. That'll just tempt people into buying without knowing what the gameplay is like, hating it because it's not Halo, and then complaining about it on forums.

Good graphics are wonderful, but hyping them up without mentioning gameplay is a way of tricking people into buying games, and that never works in the long run.

With that mentality, we'll have nothing but FPS games. :/

 

[Jirotrom]

In a still, sure. It's the motion bit that is tricky.

of course, but since we are using stills here.

 

[WrikaWrek]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/uncanny-valley/so-long-uncanny-valley-238805.php

this beats uncanny valley.

According to Quantic Dream, Heavy rain already beats it in real time.


...so the models should look about as good as that right!? I mean!?

 

[Jirotrom]

According to Quantic Dream, Heavy rain already beats it in real time.


...so the models should look about as good as that right!? I mean!?

I want to see a real time vid...

 

[Tieno]

http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08024/dscn7457552.jpg

Get rid of the Mass Effect avatar! It's confusing for people.

 

[WTFing]

Sure I'd like to play a game with this Quantic Dreams technology.

 

[Hammer]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/uncanny-valley/so-long-uncanny-valley-238805.php

this beats uncanny valley.

It's source site, cgsociety, has a few that are even more photo real that that one. Some real talent there. Granted, these renders are not in any sort of engine, but multiple passes and most likely final touch ups. The beauty of presenting 3d in 2d.

 

[Future PhaZe]

According to Quantic Dream, Heavy rain already beats it in real time.


...so the models should look about as good as that right!? I mean!?

Really? Where did you hear that?

 

[WrikaWrek]

Really? Where did you hear that?

It's in the page before this one. Obviously it's hyperbole bullshit people.

But i get it, hype hype hype

Edit: I think i get what the Dev means, is that the animation will simply look "right" and not weird. Obviously you won't be seeing 3d models like this

animating, it's just that the animation will look amazing, and i'm dying to see it.

 

[Ranger X]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/uncanny-valley/so-long-uncanny-valley-238805.php

this beats uncanny valley.

Not even near. You wouldn't fool me with that. You can see it's not mother nature that made this because of the hairs and skin most importantly.

 

[gofreak]

Uncanny valley is a bit of an impossible thing to overcome, though, because the mere knowledge that something is artificial would be enough to disturb some people in their interaction with, or in attempting to interact with it as if it were human - even if it looked practically perfect. It also can be a fairly subjective thing.

What one might hope for from Heavy Rain is if it presents something that matches or exceeds the state of the art in realtime human representations.

 

[Hammer]

Not even near. You wouldn't fool me with that. You can see it's not mother nature that made this because of the hairs and skin most importantly.

Lol, now that you mention it, I can't stop staring at her hair... definitely breaks the illusion.

 

[Jirotrom]

Not even near. You wouldn't fool me with that. You can see it's not mother nature that made this because of the hairs and skin most importantly.

wow... you come off as disagreeing with this just to disagree...

and when I state "this beats UV" it was an exaggeration in comparison to the heavy rain stills

EDIT: to top it off the skin doesn't look any different then the constantly air brushed supermodels society is fed everyday.

 

[Hammer]

Are the Heavy Rain stills 2k or 4k maps? Anyone know?

 

[filopilo]

i'd say 1K.

 

[filopilo]

According to Quantic Dream, Heavy rain already beats it in real time.

According to GwB, the "mission was accomplished" in may 2003...

 

[elcapitan]

Not even near. You wouldn't fool me with that. You can see it's not mother nature that made this because of the hairs and skin most importantly.

Hindsight bias. If nobody told you it was fake, then you'd probably never notice.

 

[Lord Error]

Hindsight bias. If nobody told you it was fake, then you'd probably never notice.

The picture of that guy above made by Pyotr Wysocki looks more natural than 90% of the airbrushed photos you see in the fashion magazines. I actually almost can't believe that picture is a render.

 

[Ranger X]

wow... you come off as disagreeing with this just to disagree...

and when I state "this beats UV" it was an exaggeration in comparison to the heavy rain stills

EDIT: to top it off the skin doesn't look any different then the constantly air brushed supermodels society is fed everyday.

The skin is more evident in a bigger picture. There's a way bigger pic of that CG.
Anyways, if you look at the big picture there's an unnatural feeling with pretty much every aspect.
Thing is, this CG is extremely good. With great animation it could fool most people. I just can tell you that i personally will not be fooled anytime soon.

 

[Ranger X]

Hindsight bias. If nobody told you it was fake, then you'd probably never notice.

I doubt it. I saw this picture (in a bigger version) awhile ago and the person showing it to me asked me what i thought. I said "holyshit, that's the best CG i've ever seen".

All this is just a question of observation. Some people are better at it than others. The better you are at observation the harder it will be to fool you with things like that.

 

[Jirotrom]

The skin is more evident in a bigger picture. There's a way bigger pic of that CG.
Anyways, if you look at the big picture there's an unnatural feeling with pretty much every aspect.
Thing is, this CG is extremely good. With great animation it could fool most people. I just can tell you that i personally will not be fooled anytime soon.

the point I was trying to get across originally was that it is extremely good, but there is no fooling Ranger X's keen eyes ;p

 

[Ranger X]

the point I was trying to get across originally was that it is extremely good, but there is no fooling Ranger X's keen eyes ;p

There's a downside to all this. I've never seen someone look better with colored lenses, i don't really like some types of make-up and fake boobies do nothing for me except feeling unnatural and wierd.

 

[Lord Error]

That picture of an Asian girl is not even that good anymore... Piotr's fashion dude from above is the one to compare everything against now.

 

[Takuan]

Cool, but I'd rather see a gameplay shot.

 

[Jirotrom]

There's a downside to all this. I've never seen someone look better with colored lenses, i don't really like some types of make-up and fake boobies do nothing for me except feeling unnatural and wierd.

hows that a bad thing...

 

[Ranger X]

hows that a bad thing...

Well, it's not really a bad thing and my girlfriend isn't using any of that. It's just that sometimes i feel like girls in our society are getting more and more artificial in look and the media are trying to make us think it looks better.

Interesting but off-topic i guess

 

[filopilo]

loic zimmermann.3d self portrait

 

[Jirotrom]

Well, it's not really a bad thing and my girlfriend isn't using any of that. It's just that sometimes i feel like girls in our society are getting more and more artificial in look and the media are trying to make us think it looks better.

Interesting but off-topic i guess

what you say is true but natural is better, one reason I won't become a plastic surgeon.

 

[Ranger X]

loic zimmermann.3d self portrait

This is great. The hair is extremely well done. Skin too.
It's getting near the point where you would need animation to not get fooled (at least for most people). The face is still wierd somehow and sadly the tatoo is totally giving it away.

 

[Lord Error]

loic zimmermann.3d self portrait

Pretty good, but not as good as the Fashion Guy™

 

[Hammer]

loic zimmermann.3d self portrait

Amazing render; I like how he spruced himself up quite a bit.

I've been somewhat partial to the work of artist Paul Fedor lately as well:
Book_Macro.jpg
book_MACRO2.jpg

 

[filopilo]

Pretty good, but not as good as the Fashion Guy™

It's way much better than the fashion guy. Fashion guy is only partial.And a small part.This is full model .
Fashion guy is cheating everywhere.

 

[mckmas8808]

Not even near. You wouldn't fool me with that. You can see it's not mother nature that made this because of the hairs and skin most importantly.

You mean to tell me this doesn't look natural?

 

[filopilo]

The girl up here is (much) better done than this.More with the fact that Piotr took an easy road here, ligthing conditions wise(+photoshop).

 

[filopilo]

BTW ,the point of posting Zimmerman link here was two fold.You'll learn one thing or two on his site,relative to the topic.

 

[Liabe Brave]

This is great. The hair is extremely well done. Skin too.
It's getting near the point where you would need animation to not get fooled (at least for most people). The face is still wierd somehow and sadly the tatoo is totally giving it away.

I agree the tattoo is totally fake here, but the hair is very impressive.

Here's a test for you, Ranger X: is this picture (click for larger) a photo or a 3D render?

 

[Jirotrom]

This is great. The hair is extremely well done. Skin too.
It's getting near the point where you would need animation to not get fooled (at least for most people). The face is still wierd somehow and sadly the tatoo is totally giving it away.

so you think the zimmerman pick looks more realistic than the girl:/

 

[nelsonroyale]

the cg asian girl is definitely more realistic than the others posted

 

[Ranger X]

so you think the zimmerman pick looks more realistic than the girl:/

Some aspects of it might not be but in overall i prefer the guy. I didn't see a huge picture of it though. I can't swallow the girl's hair. On the other side the tattoo is giving the other guy away.

 

[Ranger X]

Here's a test for you, Ranger X: is this picture (click for larger) a photo or a 3D render?

Interesting pic. It's a real photo but there might be photoshop on it. It's very hard to tell sometimes with objects. That bottle could be a very well done 3D one and the paper on the guy kinda look wierd.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

I came here to see the amazing pics but then I saw Metal Murphys comment and got depressed.

Anyway, those close-up shots are pretty cool. Fahrenheit was 4/5 awesome game and 1/5 good one. Gameplay was original, athmosphere and story kicked ass and it had some nice tunes too.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Interesting pic. It's a real photo but there might be photoshop on it. It's very hard to tell sometimes with objects. That bottle could be a very well done 3D one and the paper on the guy kinda look wierd.

Of course, it's a trick question. It's neither a photo, Photoshopped, nor a 3D render. It's a painting.

Human eyes--yes, even yours--can be fooled.

 

[nelsonroyale]

Of course, it's a trick question. It's neither a photo, Photoshopped, nor a 3D render. It's a painting.

Human eyes--yes, even yours--can be fooled.

very cool

 

[gofreak]

Of course, it's a trick question. It's neither a photo, Photoshopped, nor a 3D render. It's a painting.

Human eyes--yes, even yours--can be fooled.

Amazing, but now that you've said it, I can see "it" around the bottle he's holding and his fingers there etc.

I'm guessing it's easier with a higher resolution pic of it too

But goes to what I was saying earlier..when you KNOW something isn't artificial, you'll see the flaws, or not feel totally comfortable with accepting it as real, or whatever. That'll always be a problem to one degree or another.

 

[Raist]

Of course, it's a trick question. It's neither a photo, Photoshopped, nor a 3D render. It's a painting.

lies D:

 

[Lord Error]

The girl up here is (much) better done than this.More with the fact that Piotr took an easy road here, ligthing conditions wise(+photoshop).

I don't know how much he 'shopped, but if real life fashion models get to have that treatment, CG models can use it too, no?

I'm pretty much 100% positive this picture would fool anyone who sees it, and that's all that matters.

 

[nelsonroyale]

taht cg society site is fantastic..!

 

[The Orange]

Of course, it's a trick question. It's neither a photo, Photoshopped, nor a 3D render. It's a painting.

Human eyes--yes, even yours--can be fooled.

Are you shitting me? Do you have a bigger version of this, or the name of the painting?