They did, the animations were just unused in Sun/Moon.
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this legit just sent chills down my whole body.
Oh really? Nice! Might be a case of just dropping in higher detailed models with the identical rigs and animations and calling it there.
B2W2 looked fantastic when it was right, taking one step further what they did with HGSS. It's also probably the best Pokémon game on the DS, and is the most dense with content and stuff to do. You should give those games a shot. Game Freak went all out.
peanutbutterlatte
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"Details"? He just pontificated on the nature of the Switch's hardware...
In any case hopefully this improves on the dreadfully boring Sun/Moon.
In any case hopefully this improves on the dreadfully boring Sun/Moon.
PerfectFlaw
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I love the mainline games and I'm excited to see what kind of changes they can bring with the Switch, but give me freaking Pokemon Snap 2 already, Nintendo.
Perfect examples of how unoriginal everyone who thinks they know what's best for Pokemon is. They just want some other game they've played with a coat of Pokemon paint.
What I want is likely what we'll get. A new iteration of the classic formula that sets its baseline at the previous gen (UltraSun/UltraMoon) and iterates on that, adding new features, ramping up the graphics and amount of "life" in the game world, and adding new systems to play around with which may or may not stick into future gens depending on how they work out. The important thing is, it'll still feel like Pokemon.
You do realize how expensive 2D sprites are to make, right? There's a reason why most fighting games switched to 3D models.
Dark Cloud
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They're not taking a 3 year hiatus from releasing a Pokémon game. US/UM are this year and they can take 2018 off. Have Pokémon ready for holiday 2019.
ThoseDeafMutes
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It should be no problem with a multi-trillion dollar budget as outlined in my post.
CaviarMeths
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Hopefully it's a huge open world game like BotW or Skyrim instead of a game whose primary audience is children and built from the ground up with trading and battling with friends in mind. Also hope it ditches the light, accessible stories about friendship and doing the right thing and replaces it with a dark, mature storyline that asks hard moral questions.
Nintendo just leaving money on the table if they don't do that. They could be selling Horizon or Assassin's Creed numbers.
Seriously though guys, Pokemon hasn't been strictly top-down since Gen 4/5.
Nintendo just leaving money on the table if they don't do that. They could be selling Horizon or Assassin's Creed numbers.
Seriously though guys, Pokemon hasn't been strictly top-down since Gen 4/5.
Well yeah it works best...
Slamtastic
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Is looking toward the larger industry and competitors for inspiration on how to utilize greater hardware power to realize the concepts of the Pokémon series itself (exploration, discovery) really more unoriginal than making the same game again for the eighth time?
Why bother when they already have HD models ready to go. What you're suggesting would leave Pokémon without a mainline game until 2020 or so as they work on all of the sprites. At least with 3D, most of the leg-work was already done ahead of time with the Pokémon models.
peanutbutterlatte
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I honestly don't know whether this is serious or not... a Pokémon game not aimed at children?
GasProblem
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I'm expecting it to look like Pokemon Moon/Sun, but with way better graphics and more effects like trees and grass moving in the wind, Pokemon walking behind you (although proportions will be difficult to get right in 3D) and better lightning.
Maybe some sort of co-op as well. Battles with two trainers where every player gives his Pokemon a command or something.
Maybe some sort of co-op as well. Battles with two trainers where every player gives his Pokemon a command or something.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Let me make this clear - I understand it would never happen and my post was a joke (hence referencing a trillion dollar budget). It would look excellent and I'd love it, but I am fully aware it would never happen.
Fair enough. HD sprites would look sick, as unlikely as it would be.
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CaviarMeths
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I saw that.
But yes, I was joking. Next gen should be what next gens have always been - building on the foundation of the previous. Sun/Moon was the biggest shakeup we've had in a long time, but it still was more or less just a step up on the ladder.
Skyrim: Pokemon Edition is preposterous for so many reasons. One of the biggest being that people who want that game don't even buy Pokemon games.
If it means losing the soul of your franchise, then yes. I'm not saying they can't make some pretty big strides in advancing the series, as long as that's what they're doing - advancing the series.
If players had been getting what they want out of Pokemon for the last 5 or so generations then Pokemon would be a hyper-realistic open world sandbox action MMO where you directly control Pokemon and there are no gyms. And some of the people reading this are probably naive enough to think that would be amazing and sell better than what GameFreak is making now.
EDIT: And as someone who has played every mainline Pokemon since Red at or before their North American release, I take issue with the "same game for the eighth time" viewpoint.
Even at release, and to this day, the pokemon in the gbc games look hideous. Those games were never lookers, even comcerning pixel art.
I think this is a lock..?
RollerMeister
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It's going to be a Pokémon game targeted at Pokémon Go players, isn't it?
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Tom Nook Sawyer
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What's up with the 7-8 inch screen comment? That's bigger than the Switch's screen. Mistranslation?
Im fine with random encounters just being shadow like blobs on the screen in grass. Dont need to see the actual models until battle. Kills the surprise factor.
It's fundamentally different in Pokémon since we can avoid those battles entirely from almost the very beginning, and not just that, the areas where there are random battles are clearly shown.
matrix-cat
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I'm not going to get my hopes up for anything more than a Sun/Moon-style game on the TV. Game Freak will do what Game Freak do. I half expect them to bring HMs back and say that they wanted to keep rideable Pokemon exclusive to the Alola region or something
Also look forward to paying the Nintendo online fee to trade and battle.
Also look forward to paying the Nintendo online fee to trade and battle.
perfectchaos007
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I want Mega Evolutions and Z Moves for every Pokemon in glorious 2.5D
SinCityAssassin
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No, but I'm pretty sure they got Pokemon Go to target Pokemon Go players.
peanutbutterlatte
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Can't wait for them to expand on the super interesting new mechanic of regional variants by never bringing them back again.
GiantBreadbug
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Please just make the single player campaign more than what it is now. Pump some money into it and make it a really beefy game.
Excited for what they will do with this. It sounds like they're thinking about how the series can take the next step with the switch, which brings them so much more power than they ever had and let's people play on a tv.
I wonder if they have any ideas for local pvp or co-op.
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I wonder if they have any ideas for local pvp or co-op.
Some enjoy being needlessly pessimistic for some reason.
AzureFlame
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So they probably gonna use the same 3d pokemon models? I like them but they are getting old, pokemon used to have sprites and they changed with each gen giving it a fresh feeling, 3d models in gen 6 and 7 were the same and I'm worried they'll just copy them again in gen 8.
Pretty much this. They are working with a full 3d system now, worst case scenario? Fixed camera ala God of War
Small i think last time they added a way to get a harder difficulity mode was in gen V (pokemon black and white gen). And that was the only time in the mainline series i think.
Omnii-chan
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Please this.
What? Pokemon RPG's since the beginning are built around it. That's how you find more Pokemon to catch and its how you train them. What about encountering golds in the wild?
It'd be Pokemon Stadium levels of boring if it's just trainer matches over and over.
Just do what wmlk said, speed up the process of getting in and out of a battle, don't make it so god damn tedious.
Based on various factors, Im inclined to think no hard mode.
- New system, they want to sell as much as possible
- Is not mandatory at all
- After all, is a franchise oriented to children
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Is the consensus that Sun/Moon was necessarily easy?
I say necessarily because I disabled Exp Share like a few people suggested and found some really strong encounters that took quite a bit of leveling up.
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